December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

[IMPORTANT] New keyserver available
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: libsln.htm -- Is Libel a Crime?
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:14 AM 1/27/97 -0600, ichudov(a)algebra.com wrote: >I am not sure if you posted this information in response to my request >to cite a statute that would prove that libel is a crime. > >Me> Jim Choate wrote: >Me> > >Me> > >Me> > >Me> > Are you aware that attributing statements in print to a party when that >Me> > party did not write them is a crime? >Me> >Me> cite the statute > > >These postings do not prove that libel is a crime. It is because libel >is not a crime. Libel is a tort, and unlike with crime, the government >cannot initiate a legal action against someone for libel. Only injured >(libeled) individuals and not the government can sue in a libel case. On the contrary, in some jurisdictions libel is indeed a crime. However, that doesn't mean that prosecutions happen anymore, but the laws are (in some places) still on the books. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: libsln.htm -- Is Libel a Crime?
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:14 AM 1/27/97 -0600, ichudov(a)algebra.com wrote: >I am not sure if you posted this information in response to my request >to cite a statute that would prove that libel is a crime. > >Me> Jim Choate wrote: >Me> > >Me> > >Me> > >Me> > Are you aware that attributing statements in print to a party when that >Me> > party did not write them is a crime? >Me> >Me> cite the statute > > >These postings do not prove that libel is a crime. It is because libel >is not a crime. Libel is a tort, and unlike with crime, the government >cannot initiate a legal action against someone for libel. Only injured >(libeled) individuals and not the government can sue in a libel case. On the contrary, in some jurisdictions libel is indeed a crime. However, that doesn't mean that prosecutions happen anymore, but the laws are (in some places) still on the books. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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RE: Rejection policy of the Cypherpunks mailing list
by Sandy Sandfort 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SANDY SANDFORT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C'punks, On Mon, 27 Jan 1997, Blanc Weber wrote: > From: Sandy Sandfort > > (By the way, if you don't like moderation, you would hate Eric Hughes' > favored solution.) > ............................................... > > > What was that? Eric, would like to require a deposit ($20 was the example he gave) from subscriber/posters. Non-subscribers would not be allowed to post. Subscribers who voluntarily left the list, would get their deposit back. Subscribers who flamed twice (every dog gets one bite) would be kicked off the list and their deposit would be forfeited (or perhaps turned over to the flame victim). S a n d y ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Re: Passphrase Online...
by Erp 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> I suppose if you were doing something locally, and someone wanted to be > really sneaky, they could embed something like keycopy on your machine (with > a virus or something) and get coppied every time you enter a keystroke. I > don't suppose it would be all that difficult to get a machine to run a tsr > that got kicked off every time you accessed something like, say , > PGP....Comments? Ok, just something that would be a nasty little virii in its own way... If there was a virii produced that copied down a persons keystrokes every time, and then when they logged onto the InterNet aka aachieved a PPP/Slip connection, it automatically sent (without there knowing) a copy of all the keystorkes they have made so far, and then deletes them from an encrypted file, or from within a file it has been adding them too *shrug*... .. aka Automatically sends it to say an anonymous email account or some such. Ok *shrug* jsut an idea... later..... Erp *************************************************** Hey we have fun here at hell! Check us out if your lucky: http://www.fromhell.com/

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The Bell Curve
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: OTP security
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> I was thinking about the thread we had a week or so ago about OTPs. Say > I'm going to burn a CD of what I think are cryptographically random bits, > but somehow I end up with part of my stream being predictable (say every > 16th bit). What does this do to the security of my CD? Depends on how that 16th bit is related to the other bits and whether these predictable bits give any information about the other bits on the disk. If we assume all the other bits are true random and that the 16th bits are predictable only in that they can be predicted left and right but do not depend upon the other bits not in positions 16, 32, 48, 16n etc... we can just discard them and use the rest obtaining perfect security. We can even use all the bits and all we lose is one bit every two bytes and therefore if we are calling the bytes ASCII and say adding mod 13 we only have "imperfect" security on every 2nd character where there are 2^7 eg. 128 possible characters. Suprisingly this yields perfect security as there are still a number of possible pads which lead to reasonable and plausible decryptions. Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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Re: Senator Exon
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dr.Dopefiend Viscera K'ock`OfTheMinute is a pimply dweeb sitting at a computer chortling at his own imagined cleverness. \|/ @ @ -oOO-(_)-OOo- Dr.Dopefiend Viscera K'ock`OfTheMinute

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Re: Rejection policy of the Cypherpunks mailing list
by ichudov＠algebra.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sandy Sandfort wrote: > > (By the way, if you don't like moderation, you would hate Eric Hughes' > > favored solution.) > > What was that? > > Eric, would like to require a deposit ($20 was the example he > gave) from subscriber/posters. Non-subscribers would not be > allowed to post. Subscribers who voluntarily left the list, > would get their deposit back. Subscribers who flamed twice > (every dog gets one bite) would be kicked off the list and their > deposit would be forfeited (or perhaps turned over to the flame > victim). Obviously, you will not be able to effectively collect from non-posters, since anyone would be able to resell subscriptions. Also, anyone can create a usenet newsgroups like alt.cypherpunks, or cypherpunks.general, which would be free. Lots of competing cypherpunks mailing lists would spring up. You would make some money out of it (like maybe $700 or so), but would waste so much time that it would not be worth the trouble. - Igor.

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Re: Best Computer School?
by Erp 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Mon, 27 Jan 1997, SpyKing wrote: > This is a little off topic but maybe someone can help. I've got a teenage > son (HS sophomore) who's interested in majoring in computer science in > college with a particular interest in cryptography. He's leaning toward MIT. > Any suggestions from list members as to colleges to investigate? Well in reference to MIT.. I hope he has a 4.0 in highschool, is an allsport, has a 1600 on his SAT's, and a prefect on his ACT.. Just to even think about going there.. Let alone to include how well he'll have to do on his interviews etc.. Also you may wish to have him look again at what he wants to be before he goes to some major college such as MIT, because tuition at MIT costs approx 100,000$/4 years. Personally that is a hell of a lot, but then again *shrug*... I recommend going to a local small college, get his associates, see if that is what he still wants to do, then go on from there. I know many people that started in Computer Science and died after the first year. Now colleges that are good for Computer Sc ience.. I have heard that RIT is good.. but I'm nto sure on that.. I know pretty well positive that MIT is excellent, but when you get down to the basics MIT is more of an engineering school than a science/philosophical school which Computer Sciences falls under.. Another good school from what I've heard is UCLA.. then again you can discredit anything I've said, because I'm still a HighSchool senior myself and have been looking into Computer Criminology for the last three years, and I'm positive it is what i want so *shrug*.. Ok later... Erp **********************************************************8 See about coming from hell at: http://www.fromhell.com/

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