December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by usteam1＠tech-center.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Airport security [no such thing]
by azur＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Krenn wrote: > >> But wait - won't the all-important "did you pack your bags yourself" and >> "did anyone give you bags to take on the plane" stop them? ;-) > > If your friends or family are a little late catching the same plane as >yourself, then just answer, "No, my son packed them." > This, on the average, gives your companions an extra 10-15 minutes >to catch the plane, since regulations require them to do a complete >check of your baggage (and they are 'supposed' to take them to a >secure area to do so). > Since you are ready to board the plane they cannot legally detain >you and let the plane go on, in order to process you and your >baggage according to proper regulatory procedure. They must, >instead, detain the plane. > They may jump up and down and tell you this is not so, but I have >never missed a plane, and neither have most of my tardy companions. I don't know which airlines you fly, but the ones I am familiar with ask these questions at the baggage counter (checked luggage) and gate (carry-on items). Since you are supposed to be at the airport one hour before departure, in most instances if you get to the counter or gate less than 10 minutes before take-off your reservations lapse (by Fed rules) and are no longer requred to board you. If they are forced to search you luggage they will, legally, allow the plane to depart w/o you. -- Steve

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Re: Airport security [no such thing]
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:42 AM 1/15/97 -0800, Alan Bostick wrote: >Was he wearing a ID badge with a photo? Was he known to the security >staff? I would assume the staff knew the person. But that's not the point. The beer delivery man could hardly know what was in the kegs. The kegs might have been switched beforehand. In the warehouse, at a previous stop, etc. An attacker might have to replace several kegs, to make sure that at least one altered keg makes it inside the "secure" area. This can be done quite easily. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred Make your mark in the history of mathematics. Use the spare cycles of your PC/PPC/UNIX box to help find a new prime. http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm

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Re: Airport security [no such thing]
by ed.falk＠Eng.Sun.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> As most readers probably know, laptops are often subject to manual > scrutiny. From my non-representative sample, about four out of five tote > bags clearly containing laptops will be manually searched. Typically, the > attendant requires that the laptop is powered up. In none of the 20+ manual > searches I witnessed did the security personnel wait past the RAM check > before clearing the passenger. I could not help but contemplate how much of > the insides of the laptop could be replaced while still obtaining an > identical display. Almost all of them. I saw the keyboard of an IBM thinkpad flipped up at a party the other day and was flabbergasted. It's all empty space! You can add & remove innards all you want. Disk drives, batteries, etc. are all removable. The actual computer itself is so tiny I couldn't believe it. You could pull out the CD-rom, floppy disk, spare battery, etc. and have a nearly empty box that still runs windows and unix.

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Careful with subkeys - Re: Hi again, and an invitation to kibitz
by peter.allan＠aeat.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Amanda Walker wrote: > I'm considering DES-EDE (the easy option), Blowfish (also pretty easy), > or the DES variant Bruce Schneier describes in Applied Cryptography, 2nd ed. > (the one with independent subkeys). This might be a bad idea. Rumor has it that independent subkeys are eaten alive by related-key attacks (not very practical usually). I think I saw this in a post by Matt Blaze about last November on coderpunks. That post suggested 2 key schedule strategies: 1) planned, like DES, by people who know how a particular schedule affects related-key attacks 2) scrambled, like Turtle & Blowfish, so that key bits all depend on each other in a messy way I mark the margin of my AC book with snippets like this. I don't seem to have kept the post in question. -- Peter Allan peter.allan(a)aeat.co.uk

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Re: Seen Your Post!
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:17 AM 1/15/97 -0800, Garry wrote: >I Seen Your Post! > >I found your post in one of my favorite news groups. You might find my views >are exactly the same. In fact my entire WebSite is right up that alley. >Every business Opportunity listed at my sight is FREE! In fact one of the >businesses I joined (again free) has an excellent earning potential of >over $600 profit per YEAR, per CUSTOMER! The best part is don't do anything >except promote the business. The company does everything for me!!! Although >I do not have anything against MLM, this is not! Anyone else ever listen to Paul Harvey? Anyone else know what it is like to realize that you are listening to an ad halfway through the ad? I hope that our moderator will judge posts on the total content, otherwise insidious little posts like this one may slip through.

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Re: Airport security [no such thing]
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:42 PM 1/14/97 -0800, Bill Stewart wrote: >At 10:23 PM 1/14/97 -0800, Lucky Green wrote: >>As most readers probably know, laptops are often subject to manual >>scrutiny. From my non-representative sample, about four out of five tote >>bags clearly containing laptops will be manually searched. > >It's extremely airport, guard, and moon-phase dependent. >Some places are real picky, some aren't. I've started following >someone's advice about having the laptop go through vertically; >it doesn't look like a big opaque block to them, and they can see >the rest of the stuff. When I tried it in Orlando, they said >"It has to go through lying down", ran it back through lying down, >said "Computer", I said "Yup", and they handed it to me :-) So, to successfully place a "package" on an international flight, take a connecting flight that hooks up at the same terminal. Go to your local "has no x-ray, doing well to have a metal detector" airstrip and take a flight on one of the commuter flights such as Eagle, (this way you might be lucky enough to enter the next, probably major airport, in the same terminal as some international flights.) Now, its presumed that you have already been searched at your last stop because you're already in the secured area. Such a plan would require multiple stops and homework into the layout of the airports (to know which airlines share the same terminals). Also, the bag would have to be a carry-on, otherwise the dogs would get it. BTW, the package could be just about anything, including chemicals, sarin, TNT, artifacts, human tissue, or anything else with export controls and being a physical substance. This post is not meant to suggest ways of breaking state, federal, or international laws. Merely to point out the weaknesses of the system as it stands. If the airport network was a computer network, it would be compromized inside of 48 hours. All because the level of trust between airports defaults to full. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Dick Graves continues his DOS attack
by varange＠crl.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Subject: Dick Graves continues his DOS attack > The appended messages from Howard Goldstein > <hgoldste(a)bbs.mpcs.com>, Stan Kalisch III <sjkiii(a)crl.com>, > Chris Lewis <clewis(a)ferret.ocunix.on.ca>, Eric Bohlman > <ebohlman(a)netcom.com>, trebor(a)sirius.com, Dave the > Resurrector, and myself below show why Dave Harman, > formerly qut(a)netcom.com and an572010(a)anon.penet.fi, now > varange(a)crl.com, has targeted us. While the deranged varange > may occasionally sound superficially plausible, his record > is quite clear. Apologies for the length, but I figure it's > better to have this all in one place. This article is also > saved at http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~llurch/skipsummary This article will be saved to http://www.crl.com/~varange/netabuse/ or the NET ABUSE - FALSE COMPLAINTS category of my index.html. > Since abuse(a)crl.com just goes to /dev/null, I'd appreciate it if > some CRL user could confirm, as three different CRL users did > a month ago in response to a rash of forged usenet postings > in October (I'm appending two posts on that topic below), > that the only account logged on to the given machines at the > time of every incident of forged net abuse was varange(a)crl.com. Six weeks or so is all the public access there is to the wtmp file; ask Sandy or Stan if you don't know how to read it from your own CRL account. (How conveniant of you to accuse me of the repulsive "Mark Wehal(sp?)" forgery past the date it can be easily verified; why should the CRL admins drag out their backup tapes on the account of your spurious allegations? Anyone who checked up Dejanews on "Mark Wehal" could have seen that some user had forged his name as revenge spam against "Mark Wehal's" offensive under 18 style sex spam in a few exceedingly odd choice of newgroups, alas, "Mark Wehal" never complained about the forgery and an unknown user may have been the instigator of a business prank against a ligitimate electronics firm whose street address was listed in the original sex spam.) > crl6 Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:14:26 -0800 > crl6 Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:07:02 -0800 > crl11 Sun, 8 Dec 1996 02:22:59 -0800 > crl6 Tue, 24 Dec 1996 17:10:58 -0800 Or check the Here: line of my posts for better readability than the additional standard Date: line. > Forged email headers follow. The full 750K text of the > unwanted harassing email, of which I received several copies, > is at http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~llurch/skipbomb2 > and skipbomb3. I'm sure more people besides Gord McFee > and I received copies; maybe everyone on his targets list, > ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/qu/qut/misc/address > > Personally, I think nine months of this bullshit is more than > enough. If CRL sees no problem with this, then I don't believe > CRL should be allowed access to our network. "Our?" Are you allowed to abuse the Stanford network because you are a user, employee, or the actual admin? If Graves is the actual admin, or is allowed to act like one, then bona fide complaints about users conduct on the Stanford network can't be sent directly via e-mail; send a registered letter/return receipt to whomever is responsible (who?) I read his post as a threat to the Stanford network. Bogus complaints and forged posts from everyone under the sun: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] Full article referred by myself to my web page: http://www.crl.com/~varange/netabuse/ -- Cheers!

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(fwd) MISC> ISPs to be hit with fees
by frogfarm＠yakko.cs.wmich.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Path: wmich-news!gumby!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!ncar!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!mr.net!news.mid.net!news.mid.net!not-for-mail From: Gleason Sackman <gleason(a)rrnet.com> Newsgroups: comp.internet.net-happenings Subject: MISC> ISPs to be hit with fees Date: 13 Jan 1997 09:29:05 -0600 Organization: Global Internet, Peace of Mind is finally Online! Lines: 80 Sender: infoserv(a)news.mid.net Approved: ralphie Message-ID: <5bdkc1$bie(a)shocker.gi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: shocker.gi.net Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:49:16 -0600 From: The CyberTracker <JAX(a)CyberTracker.com> Subject: ISPs to be hit with fees To: NETTRAIN(a)LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU ISPs to be hit with fees By CNET STAFF January 10, 1997, 6:45 p.m. PT The cost of getting online looks like it's going up again. Network Solutions, the InterNIC subcontractor that assigns Internet domain names for a fee, has proposed tacking on more fees to the numeric addresses behind those names, addresses that are now free. For example, the domain name "cnet.com" masks a numeric Internet Protocol address. The domain name system makes it simpler to send email or locate a Web site by name, rather than by a number up to 12 digits long, such as 198.41.0.52. Under Network Solutions' plan, a new nonprofit organization called the American Registry for Internet Numbers would replace the government-subsidized InterNIC IP group. North American ISPs would be hit with fees ranging from $2,500 up to $20,000 for blocks of IP numbers that they now receive for free and parcel out to their users. The plan would not affect individual users unless the ISPs chose to pass along the additional costs. But nonprofits, free community networks, and others that do not charge for Internet access would have to pay. "They all have operational fees today," said Jon Postel, head of the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA), which oversees all three of the world's Internet number assigning authorities, including the InterNIC IP group. "It's just another operational expense." It is the IANA as well as the National Science Foundation that would have to approve Network Solutions' plan before it would go into effect. The proposal is not clear about how the registry would spend the thousands and possibly millions of dollars it would take in each year if the plan goes through. The proposal did say that the executive director, chosen by the board of trustees, would receive a salary determined by the board. Network Solutions' representatives could not be reached for comment. But IANA's Postel says that Net addresses must be treated like the airwaves. "Address space is a kind of a public resource like the airwaves," he said. "There are certain bands set aside for CB radio, but if you want to be a powerful radio station, you have to go through a much more complicated licensing procedure." But unlike the airwaves, Internet address space is public resource that is parceled out without any governmental oversight, whereas the Federal Communications Commission oversees spectrum allocation. Postel thinks the lack of such oversight is a good thing. "You think about the FCC procedures and how long it takes to get a decision out of them on anything," Postel said. "I'm not sure you'd want them involved." Only companies and individuals capable of paying a $1,000 per year in fees will be allowed to participate in forming American Registry's policies. By contrast, any U.S. citizen has the right to file comments with the FCC about communications policies. The American Registry's five-member board of trustees would be initially selected by Network Solutions. Future boards would in their turn be selected by the board that Network Solutions had picked, giving the private company an unprecedented influence over the assignment of increasingly scarce IP numbers. The IP numbering system is reaching its limits and plans are currently being considered to extend it. ********************************************************************** * Jackson K. Windham * CyberTracker Consulting Services * * JAX(a)CyberTracker.com * Internet Consultant / Trainer * * ACE INTERNET CLUB - President * Http://www.CyberTracker.com * ********************************************************************** *** Member of HTML Instructors Association and HTML Writer's Guild *** ******* May the Best of your Past, Be the Worst of your Future ******* ********************************************************************** -- frogfarm(a)yakko.cs.wmich.edu (Damaged Justice) is officially declared Unmutual s..O).... The smurf wields a hypodermic! -- More -- I like women who @.../.".. You destroy the smurf! -- More -- are *strong*, in .$*...].. You feel self-righteous! <B>every</B> sense of the word.

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RE: soc.culture.belarus
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From belarus(a)solar.rtd.utk.edu Thu Jan 16 04:36:38 1997 Received: by bwalk.dm.com (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Thu, 16 Jan 97 06:36:05 EST for dlv Received: from [198.78.213.165] by uu.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA10669 for dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com; Thu, 16 Jan 97 04:36:38 -0500 Message-Id: <9701160936.AA10669(a)uu.psi.com> Received: from (LOCALHOST.rtd.utk.edu) by solar.rtd.utk.edu; Thu, 16 Jan 97 04:33:28 EST Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 04:33:28 EST Errors-To: kasaty(a)seanet.com Reply-To: belarus(a)solar.rtd.utk.edu Originator: belarus(a)solar.rtd.utk.edu Sender: belarus(a)solar.rtd.utk.edu Precedence: bulk From: "GWDVMS::IFEDCHE" <ifedche(a)gwdvms.dnet.gwdg.de> To: Multiple recipients of list <belarus(a)solar.rtd.utk.edu> Subject: RE: soc.culture.belarus X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0b -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: BELARUS issues and communication :Can anyone tell me if soc.culture.belarus is still active? I have not been able to access this newsgroup for a while now and my service provider hasn't answered my question about this. I originally had to make a request to the ISP to carry the newsgroup but after that, it was ok. I hope it's only coincidental that I lost contact only about one day after I placed a posting on the newsgroup. Barry J Hilchey, <bhilchey(a)sympatico.ca> PO Box 668, St Marys, Ontario, N4X 1B6, Canada: I donn't know exactly what happend to that group, but some time ago I had e-mail exchange with one of the moderators. He complained that they (5 persons or so) are sweating day and night moderating incoming postings. It might be, therefore, that this honorable job of censorship starved this people to death. Igor Fedchenia

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