December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Seeking help on WordPerfect 6.1 cracks
by Rich Graves 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Among the possessions of a murder victim (not suspect), the local police have found a floppy disk with some provocative-sounding files on it. Rather than getting them into the habit of cracking other people's personal files, I'd prefer to give them the password myself, but there seems to be no freely available cracker for WordPerfect 6.x, and I'm not sure this one-time use is worth $100 to me. Can anyone lend a hand? Just four small files. I can give you more than enough details off the list to assure you that this is totally on the level. Feel free to discuss the implications of providing such help. Failing that, does anyone have a technical, political, or personal preference for or against AccessData or CRAK, who sell the two commercial crackers I've found? - -rich [not on cypherpunks at the moment] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMllpfZNcNyVVy0jxAQHtcgH8D3oW21nsaNrIHxHMqhxE/Ho9/78L1elF DYHV3jeM4VSqTP6cKhMn5ZahB4b8KP9t7EG70NAtwn/usaKiWpw92Q== =uq4u -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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challenging wiretap law
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

alright, let me try to rephrase this. if you feel the urge to flame me over a simple post, without actually posting anything substantial, please avoid it. I was trying to get at something in a previous post. I regularly see cpunks here scheming about how to attack things they don't like using court decisions. I think it's a great way to try to move the law in a favorable direction I see Bernstein/Junger as really embodying cpunk guerilla-like tactics in trying to take on the status quo govt using the legal system. of course this is not cheap, but EFF is helping out at least, and PRZ proves the public is generally willing to put its money where its mouth is on these issues. there's also a lot of scheming over patent laws going on among cylink, RSA data securities, etc. the point is that I don't recall seeing this same kind of scheming against wiretap rules here; if it was here then forgive me, I missed it. for anyone who would like to, I'd be very interested in a brief discussion over wiretap laws and which ones have gone to the supreme court in court challenges. here's my curiosity: if you were a lawyer, or actually are one, how would you go about challenging the legitimacy of wiretaps, in the same spirit in which ITAR is being challenged? note that even if there are court precedents at "lower" courts, this does not preclude strategizing to try to take the cases to the supreme court. I am not asking anyone to do my "homework" for me. I'm merely proposing that this might be a neat exercise for the collective cypherpunk brain. of course it won't get far if people rant about it, but merely discussing existing case law would make a good and interesting topic imho. if there are people out there who are familiar with it and would like to discuss it, and can stand Unicorn ranting at you no matter what you say, please do-- it would be signal in the noise around here. challenging these laws in the weak spots could be a very devastating means of defying law enforcement claims that they only want to "preserve the status quo" and want "no new authorities to wiretap". could wiretapping be "nipped in the bud" somehow? there is tremendous economic incentive for laywers to challenge things like patents etc, but this same incentive doesn't seem to exist in challenging wiretap rules. hence I wonder if they have been challenged to the same extent that other court decisions have been. of course, there are areas where wiretaps have been challenged and the challenges failed. but that doesn't mean there aren't weak spots that might exist somewhere that could "crack" it. it's like hacking, a bit, in this way, hence why I think it would make a good topic for discussion. or would the lawyers assert there are no weak spots in the wiretap laws? that the issue has been fleshed out as far as it will ever be in courts? again, what I am trying to suggest is that if there was a "new angle of attack" not used in any previous wiretap cases, it's highly relevant. again, merely because certain cases approved wiretapping does not necessarily mean all future decisions will support it.

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Did Jesus masturbate ?
by I~nigo Gonzalez 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Yes, you guessed right: the Subject came from alt.2600 famous line noise thread.... About Utah, Mormons, Religion /etc... Is someone mailing ciphertext to the list in the form of Noise ???? Please use _plaintext_ or just learn Crypto.

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A daily warning regarding Dmitri Vulis
by nobody＠cypherpunks.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dmitri vulis is a liar and fills this list with lies, personal attacks and material having nothing to do with cryptography. He also has unnatural sexual urges towards children, animals and other such items.

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Re: Voice Stress Analysis of Debates?
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:23 AM 10/6/96 -0700, Dale Thorn wrote: >jim bell wrote: >> This reminds me... Years ago, somebody developed a technique called >> "Voice Stress Analysis," which was supposed to detect small variations >> in a person's voice in response to stress. Not exactly a lie-detector, >> but it was supposed to do nearly the same thing. Does anybody plan >> to analyze the debates for stress? Is there software to do this? >> (Tried to do a web-search; didn't see anything.) > >Pardon me for butting in. Some remailer says I post too much, and I >should cut out some. They didn't say which posts I should cut out, tho'. Cryptography is, basically, the area of hidden meanings. In a sense, a voice-stress analyzer is intended to seek out hidden meanings in a person's statements. So I'd say it's as on-topic as most of the stuff 'round here. >Anyway, as I understand it, the current technology in voice/stress >analysis goes way beyond the polygraph at its best (current) level of >technology. There was at least one agency that did voice analysis >during the Simpson debacle, and the results were (as I recall) very >promising. Apparently, a person who can beat a polygraph cannot beat a >voice/stress analysis. One thing I wonder is this: Can the stress indications be removed from a voice-containing signal by some sophisticated DSP processing? Just look for whatever effect that indicates stress, add it in equal and negative amounts to eliminate the apparent stress, etc. It might not make sense for anything less "critical" than debates, but if the control of the debates is as monopolized as we think it is, it is reasonable to think that debate participants would insist on a certain level of control over the audio signal. >BTW, the rule for these debates (as all presidential discourse) is: >"He's lying." >"How can you tell?" >"His lips are moving." Well, I sorta assumed this. But I would still be interested to get some kind of quantitative feedback on the debates. If anything, the ABSENSE of the news media's attempting to use voice-stress analysis is telling. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: legality of wiretapping: a "key" distinction
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:43 PM 10/5/96 -0700, Detweiler wrote: >>"Right to choose to be in contempt of court" ? If only I could attach a >>sound file with my howling laughter to this post. > >I find it as ludicrous as you do, but it's the clear insinuation >suggested by hard-core cypherpunks / anarchists in this forum. I wrote something which you might be confusing for this argument; in case this is what you mean, I've reproduced it below: [originally sent on 9/18/96] >There's a world of difference between the government subpoena-ing something >from me, where I can delay disclosure until I've exhausted my legal avenues >to challenge disclosure, and the government demanding data from an at best >disinterested third party who cares not at all if I get my day in court >before they disclose. With the second scenario, I'm forced to try to >"unring the bell", and somehow limit the spread of otherwise >private/confidential data in a community (law enforcement) which is >organized to collect and retain information. Ha, ha. Given today's Congress >and Supreme Court, there's probably precious little chance that keys >disclosed prematurely or erroneously won't be used to collect evidence >which will be admissible despite the lack of meaningful opportunity to >challenge the "recovery" of a key. Also, there is an important difference between making a policy argument or expressing a preference, e.g.: "I like having a choice between disclosing information which is requested and suffering the penalties for contempt of court" and an argument about the constitution: "The constitution says I must be given a choice between disclosing and contempt." I don't remember seeing any examples of the latter come across the list. As I remember things, the context of my statement above was a discussion of why third-party key escrow is not the same as self-escrow. >>Do not make the mistake of thinking there is no case law on wiretap simply >>because you have not/are too lazy to go to the library and look it up. > >I said, "at least it is rarely quoted here", lawyer-boy. It's rarely quoted here because it is unremarkable; just as the list is not a place for basic crypto education, it is not a place for basic legal education. It's difficult to come up with a good summary of legal issues or subjects which is readable by lay people and short and accurate (esp. given that it will be interpreted by lay people in potentially 51 domestic jurisdictions, plus foreign folks). Good, fast, cheap, pick any two. As Brian Davis and Uni have pointed out, people who keep current enough on legal topics to be able to give you a good answer will probably want to get paid for doing so. Saying "here's a legal argument that I made up in the shower. what do you guys think of it?" and expecting a detailed explanation of why it's good or bad is the same as saying "here's my new crypto algorithm that I thought of in the shower, what do you guys think of it?". >>You propose to refight a case soundly resolved ages ago and you propose to >>get the rest of the list to do your homework for you. > >nevertheless, you might not come off as so utterly condescending >and self-pretentious if you gave even the slightest smidgeon >of a reference yourself, instead of preferring to insult a poster. Merely asking the question "Is there case law on wiretaps?" suggests that an answer which includes references will be wasted on you. It will probably be wasted because your level of interest doesn't seem to have spurred you to darken the doorstep of a library or bookstore yet; so an answer which requires you to do so seems unhelpful. It will also probably be wasted because if you don't already know that there's caselaw about it you probably don't have enough legal background to place whatever new information you might get from those references in a useful conceptual framework. But perhaps my speculation is wrong and you are prepared to follow up meaningfully on references, so .. Go to a law library or larger general library and ask the librarian to show you where the annotated copy of 18 USC 2510 is. Read the statute. Read the legislative history. Read the annotations. Read the cases which were annotated. Repeat this process until you reach 18 USC 2709 or die of boredom. Ask the librarian to help you find LaFave's treatises on search & seizure. Read them. (The answer to most of the "how do I find out about 'X'?" questions is to make friends with a librarian who doesn't mind helping you out, just like with research questions in other fields you may not be familiar with. But surely it's not possible to get much beyond the age of 12 or so and not know that ..?) Try "Understanding Criminal Procedure" by Dressler (Matthew Bender, 1991), and "Criminal Law" by LaFave & Scott (West). (For extra credit, ask for the USCA/USCS annotated copy of the Fourth Amendment, and read those annotations and cases.) If there's a law school near you, you might go to the school's bookstore and look for books in the "Nutshell" series, or the "Emanuel's" series, or the hardbound hornbooks. These books are mostly used by law students to get an overview of a particular area of the law. They are not especially detailed nor up-to-the-minute current but usually aren't totally wrong. They also don't usually touch on a particular state's law, but discuss either federal law or an amalgam of state law, so they aren't good for solving a particular concrete problem. But they will help you figure out that, e.g., wiretaps have been legal for at least 60-70 years. Now that you've got some references to work with, please write back and tell us what you learned. (Dorothy Denning & others have written a summary of wiretap procedure which I don't have time/energy to check for correctness - but it's at <http://www.cpsr.org/cpsr/privacy/communications/wiretap/denning_wiretap_pro cedure_paper.txt>. EFF and CPSR both seem to have some wiretap/privacy materials available.) -- Greg Broiles | "We pretend to be their friends, gbroiles(a)netbox.com | but they fuck with our heads." http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | |

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WW II Crypto. History
by Richard Pekelney 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Folks, Those interested in WW II Cryptolographic History should check out: www.maritime.org/ecm2.shtml I have just updated this site to include more information on the ECM Mark II, aka SIGABA, aka CSP-889. This was the primary high level US cipher system from 1941 - 1959 or so when it was gradualy retired because it was too slow. The web site now includes a history of the machine, textual description of its algorithm, photographs, and a Java program (with source) that emulates the machine in detail. Comments and suggestions for the site are greatfully accepted at pekelney(a)rspeng.com. I am also seeking help improving the UI if anyone is very Java literate and wants to help. I do not regularly monitor cypherpunks because of its incredibly high volume of traffic. Thanks, rich -- Richard Pekelney Internet: pekelney(a)rspeng.com Phone: 1-415-563-5928 Fax: 1-415-563-5787

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write to SPA re: suit against C2 et. al.
by the prisoner 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

If you haven't read it yet, read the press release on their page at www.spa.org, and see how they'd like to 1. impose prior restraint on speech, and 2. turn ISPs into little police organizations, doing SPA's will. I think it's time for a little outrage. ============================================================================ SPA Contacts Mailing Addresses: 1730 M St. NW, Suite 700 Washington, DC 20036-4510 tel: (202) 452-1600 fax: (202) 223-8756 Anti-Piracy Hotline: (800) 388-7478 Fax On Demand Service: (800) 637-6823 57 Rue Pierre Charron 75008 Paris France tél: 33-(1) 45-63-02-02 Fax: 33-(1) 45-63-02-31 President Ken Wasch, ext. 310, kwasch(a)spa.org Arnita Grose, Executive Assistant, ext. 309, agrose(a)spa.org Anti-Piracy Sandra Sellers, VP of Intellectual Property Education and Enforcement, ext. 311, ssellers(a)spa.org Peter Beruk, Director of Domestic Anti-Piracy, ext. 314, pberuk(a)spa.org Joshua Bauchner, Litigation Coordinator, ext. 323, jbauchner(a)spa.org Shevon Desai, International Coordinator, Latin America, ext. 348, sdesai(a)spa.org Michael Flynn, Litigation Assistant, ext. 366, mflynn(a)spa.org Francine Foster, International Public Relations Coordinator, ext. 394, ffoster(a)spa.org Elisha Lawrence, Director of Asia/Pacific Anti-Piracy, ext. 378, elawrence(a)spa.org Jim Nyberg, Litigation Coordinator, ext. 315, jnyberg(a)spa.org Rudolfo Orjales, Director of Latin American Anti-Piracy, ext. 375, rorjales(a)spa.org Rebecca Sills, International Coordinator, Europe, ext. 344, rsills(a)spa.org Monica Slade, CPC Assistant, ext. 344, mslade(a)spa.org Communications Kathleen Rakestraw, Communications Manager, ext. 321, krakestraw(a)spa.org Cheryl Benson, Graphic Designer, ext. 355, cbenson(a)spa.org Daniel Coonley, Senior Graphic Designer, ext. 350, dcoonley(a)spa.org Conferences Tina Hochberg, Director of Conferences, ext. 318, thochberg(a)spa.org Rebecca Howland, CSM Marketing Coordinator, ext. 367, bhowland(a)spa.org, csminfo(a)spa.org Nadia Kader, Meetings Assistant, ext. 339, nkader(a)spa.org Maria Santos, Meeting Planner, ext.328 msantos(a)spa.org Finance/Administration Tom Meldrum, Vice President of Finance and Administration, ext. 324, tmedrum(a)spa.org Julie Maynard, Accounts Receivable Accountant, ext. 331, jmaynard(a)spa.org Dawn DeVillasana, Marketing Specialist, ext. 388, ddevillasana @spa.org Debra McGinnis, Accounting Manager, ext. 351, dmcginnis(a)spa.org Andrey Drachenko, Fulfillment Clerk, ext. 353, adrachenko(a)spa.org Jim Hassert, Director of Information Services, ext. 340, jhassert(a)spa.org, Sandy Meadows, Fulfillment Coordinator, ext. 341, smeadows(a)spa.org Natasha Soldatchenkova, Fulfillment Assistant, ext. 333, natashas(a)spa.org Katrina Hunt, Office/Personnel Manager, ext. 312, kstyles(a)spa.org Kia Williams, Receptionist, ext. 300, kwilliams(a)spa.org Government Affairs David Byer, Director of Government Affairs, ext. 325, dbyer(a)spa.org Jonathon Agmon, Government Affairs Legal Advisor for Intellectual Property and Trade Policy, ext. 325, dbyer(a)spa.org Erika Barnes, Public Policy Coordinator, ext. 335, ebarnes(a)spa.org Letreze Gooding, Government Affairs Assistant, ext. 362, lgooding(a)spa.org Melinda Griffith, State Policy Manager, ext. 337, mgriffith(a)spa.org David LeDuc, Government Affairs Assistant, ext. 352, dleduc(a)spa.org Mark Nebergall, Vice President and Counsel, ext. 319, mnebergall(a)spa.org Mark Traphagen, Vice President and Counsel, ext. 322, mtraphagen(a)spa.org Marketing Kay Heiberg, Marketing Manager, ext. 361, kheiberg(a)spa.org Barbara Young, Marketing Coordinator, ext. 326, byoung(a)spa.org Membership Services Glenn Ochsenreiter, VP Marketing and Membership Services, ext. 327, glenno(a)spa.org Mandy Braun Strum, Consumer Section Manager, ext. 313, mbstrum(a)spa.org Sue Kamp, Director, Education Section, ext. 354, skamp(a)spa.org Daniel Gonzalez, Web Assistant, ext. 377, dgonzalez(a)spa.org, Alexis H. Tatem, MPC Marketing Manager, ext. 330, atatem(a)spa.org, mpcinfo(a)spa.org Sara White, Special Projects Manager, ext. 343, swhite(a)spa.org Marnel Williams, Sections Administrative Assistant, ext. 369, mwilliams(a)spa.org Jeffrey Espiritu, Membership Coordinator, ext. 338, jespiritu(a)spa.org Anika Valentine, Membership/Marketing Adminstrator, ext. 317, avalentine(a)spa.org Public Relations David Phelps, Director of Public Relations, ext. 320 dphelps(a)spa.org Loni Singer, Public Relations Assistant, ext. 353, lsinger(a)spa.org Research James Sanders, Director of Research, ext 373, jsanders(a)spa.org Anne Griffith, Research Analyst, Business Section Manager, ext. 360, agriffith(a)spa.org Lainie Tompkins, Research Analyst, ext. 316, ltompkins(a)spa.org SPA EUROPE Gérard Gabella, Managing Director Viviane Coisy, Manager of Anti-Piracy/Public Policy Eric Daubie, Manager of Business Development Perry de Gastines, Manager of Business Development

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Re: Crypto AG - Secret GAK Partner ?
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>>This is nothing new. But how about faxing the article to John Young, so >>we all may benefit? > >There is no need to. They have an archive at http://www.spiegel.de/archiv/ >(you have to register before you can use it). The article was in >Der Spiegel 36/1996. We have put the Spiegel German text at: http://jya.com/cryptoag.htm Our German-to-English translation program choked on the crypto-lingo arcana. C'punk German linguists could surely translate "Crypto-Geschaftsfuhrer." Maybe Bob Newman with Motorola can at least verify his quotes.

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Re: WW II Crypto. History
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:26 AM 10/12/96 -0800, Richard Pekelney wrote: >Folks, > >Those interested in WW II Cryptolographic History should check out: > >www.maritime.org/ecm2.shtml ---------- Richard's excellent work might be kaliedoscoped with a view of the Index of 5,000 crypto-related "high-interest" files declassified by NSA under the OPENDOOR program. See NSA's home page for a link to the awesome list of devices, codes, messages, betrayals, tricks, lies and unsung wizards from 1916 through 1945. Just a tiny preview of what yet squats locked in the crypto-crypt of NSAK-America. We've put the Index at: http://jya.com/nsaopen1.htm

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