December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Bernstein hearing reminder: [..]
by barrk＠alias.cyberpass.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Part 1 The Batman part On Sep 19, 9:24am, Batman wrote: > Subject: RE: Bernstein hearing reminder: THIS Friday 11:45AM, SF Federal B >For the 200th time, unsubscrive me of your fucked mail lists. > >-- End of excerpt from Batman Part 2 James wrote: >Apologies if you receive more than one copy of this message, but >I'm auto-replying to your message to handle the flood: I had only one copy, James, but it was good. >Redistribution to the list from which you originally received >the problem message is kindly requested. Which list was that, James? >Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention. The email >or posting you have seen falsely represents Smith Barney and its >employees. These are erroneous postings that did not originate >from anyone employed by our firm, and therefore we cannot >directly stop them from occurring. However we have advised the >companies we believe to have serviced the originator of these >messages and we are pursuing all possible steps to end this >fraud. Unfortunately some people abuse the Internet and we >regret any inconvenience they may have caused you. Thats good, James. As the FBI man said: I smelled a rat and I nipped it in the bud. >There are currently no mailing lists maintained in the smb.com >domain, so you were not subscribed to any list. If you receive >any further messages of this nature, they are the product of the >same spurious source. Thats the word. Spuvious. >We're sorry for any inconvenience you may have experienced as a >result of this unfortunate abuse of the 'Net. No inconvenience, James. No inconvenience, at all. >Further queries via email to postmaster(a)smb.com please. Direct your replies to: cypherpunks-announce(a)toad.com This list is a must for all people in the Arctic, the plains of Mongolia and the North West territories, who want to be kept "ajour" of the dressinghabits of the natives in California. Barry

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Re: a simple cypher scheme
by David E. Smith 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: sjohnson(a)packetengines.com, cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Wed Sep 18 23:06:32 1996 > i've been on cypherpunks for about a year a half now, and have > wacthed > many interesting threads pass by but i've never posited anything. what > has > brought me out into the open is this : i work for an engineering firm > doing > asic design, i use pgp ( as do all rational persons ), a co-worker here > has > come up with a 'cypher' scheme that he would like to use to send code to > our > clients. the scheme is this : he would take the file of code and pad > all > lines to the length of the longest line, he would then preform column > swaps, > and then row swaps, to 'mix up' the file. the person receiving the file > would then preform the opposite functions to recover the file. it seems > so > simple that it can't be good. i've convenced him to use pgp, but i > would > like some input if possible on why his cypher scheme is not a good one. > > thanx > Okay... well, in order to undo whatever was done (the column swaps and row swaps, and the pads), the formula has to be transmitted. Assuming that someone can intercept that as well as the alleged cyphertext, it's no-good. It's the whole "secure channel" issue. (Also, some information would have to be attached to the file containing the orignial end-of-lines for each line, or the padding will be difficult to tell from the legitimate code.) dave - ----- David E. Smith, P O Box 324, Cape Girardeau MO USA 63702 dsmith(a)prairienet.org http://www.prairienet.org/~dsmith send mail with subject of "send pgp-key" for my PGP public key "The world's at stake. Don't confuse me with details." -- Captain America, "Onslaught" ... famous last words -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBMkDGyzVTwUKWHSsJAQHD3Af9H+Vq4qFnv9JWPY0E7x8zuXM4Om3zGZ2O sQYKOR/zAZ6qXLA8a9/C//yMPzRIVf0msd/fytt1PDB+Ei2t7+87EIOjETEwGtOp hmpioj0IUkYwxAvVV7Ihmw+6bxKCGPolxHekPyjfdI58eZt/aAzh8tcS9X4htxGH DzgKBm/OEZwMa1PulRWYQdDQmQCN9Cgno87RJn+e1kvE8wgrhYaLy5TOZKl99Vpb LgXj+CAbMm7WkXZT52scIX/hkcjbMxIEilYX7HfdIFKg7yv3O9ioeba14szafqPd KOU2DNL1rLA+yHUm0jnNQ6SugnMHRey5/hRq2XSBAyaK4IRagCkslw== =g6AI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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RE: SPAMS
by geeman＠best.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

ANY EMAIL ADDRESS PUBLISHED ON THE INTERNET THAT INVITES COMMERCIAL SOLICITATIONS IS DEEMED AS A COMMERCIAL ADDRESS, AND AS SUCH IS ELIGABLE FOR ETHICAL AND LEGAL EMAIL SOLICITATIONS FROM DIRECT ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ aye: there's the rub. and: don't trust anyone who can't spell. ELECTRONIC MAIL MARKETERS. IF FOR ANY REASON YOU OBJECT TO RECEIVING THIS MESSAGE PLEASE POLITELY REQUEST REMOVAL FROM MY LIST BY CLICKING ON THE REPLY BUTTON AND ENTERING "REMOVE" IN THE SUBJECT LINE. IF YOU DO NOT DO SO, I MUST ASSUME YOU WISH TO RECEIVE FURTHER MAILINGS.

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Re: GAK, GAP, GAY
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:49 AM 9/19/96, Rabid Wombat wrote: >Don't get me wrong - I'm not disagreeing with you about how grim your >points are. I just wanted to point out that information "could" be >released to researchers without identifying the patient - researchers are >generally interested in statistical data, such as the incidence of cancer >per zip code, etc., which doesn't require your name to be released. Zip >codes are sufficiently populated that this probably is of no danger to >privacy. Fine, if they can convince me that of this, I may consent to letting them in on my secrets. I surmise that asking permission of patients is not part of the plan, though. Secondly--and this is actually a crypto-related point (!)--it does not take much "blinded information" to figure out the correlations between patients and data. It obviously depends on the amount of information, but it's possible. (Recall similar arguments about the census data being sold to direct marketers: even with blinding of names, correlation was trivial in many cases. This caused even more people to simply state the number of (putative) living beings at their address and to "respectfully decline" to answer the detailed questions about racial makeup ("Mein Censusfuhrer, ich bin Aryan!"), income levels, diseases,insurance, employer, number of televisions, etc.) >OTOH, the potential for mis-use of such records is high, and allowing >access to a huge number of commercial sites, and their employees, >certainly opens a lot of holes. It will be a zoo. Tens of thousands of people will have access to one's records, and there will be no pretense that the system has even Clipper-like levels of protection. A psychotherapist acquaintance of mine is so worried about _existing_ lapses in patient-therapist confidentiality (basically, insurance companies are demanding detailed summaries of diagnoses and treatments, and demanding that he give them reports before they will pay...further evidence that those seeking treatment ought to pay cash and not have insurance companies in the loop on this sort of thing) that he has become and advocate of using PGP. --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1,257,787-1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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cfs users group dead?
by zinc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- hi, is the cfs-users(a)big.att.com list dead? i haven't seen anything for some time and mail i sent just bounced with a bad error. actually, i just got another one. two-for-one bounces if you mail through the cfs-users list! thanks for any info, - -patrick finerty - -- "Those that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1773) finger for PGP key zifi runs LINUX 2.0.20 -=-=-=WEB=-=-=-> http://zifi.genetics.utah.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQCVAwUBMkDLdE3Qo/lG0AH5AQEOxAP+ONckRPOAstOQDroZQcSg+p4nP/OoctNw fRV+0FvUcUmjaJLe8ziGGSFJK36gnrWTCrfHsoF1BhRoMIoLEuHoRKNiPgrO88HN FWlWUUJ5Chj84jkLPstHIVAeOPS8RF71okvaWtarqXS6BCFgOByu7PD52VAMD/P4 aE9V2CAjNq8= =DG+6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Fear of Flying -- from HotWired
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 2:51 PM 9/18/96 -0400, Black Unicorn wrote: >On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Bill Frantz wrote: > >> At 1:21 AM 9/18/96 -0400, Black Unicorn wrote: >> >> On Thu, 12 Sep 1996 12:03:18 -0700, Bill Frantz wrote: >> >> >Gee, biotech has come a long way. Now I can download the Anthrax DNA >> >> >sequence from the net and insert it in some carrier bacteria and start >> >> >making Anthrax bacteria. Neat! >> > >> >Culturing and growing anthrax is painfully simple. No DNA required. >> >> Sorry Unicorn, you missed my point. (1) You need DNA to grow bacteria. >> You can get the DNA two ways. (A) You get a sample of the beast, or (B) >> You get a DNA sequence and then regenerate the DNA. (I don't think B is >> technically feasable yet.) (2) You can't send samples of the beast thru >> the net. > >I think your point was that the net was not responsible for the >proliferation of Anthrax development data. (Am I wrong?) My point was that you need more than just information (but see below). You also need some materials that may be hard to get. Being totally ignorant in the anthrax growing area, I have no idea where I would get my starter bacteria. (Presumably any net-info would tell me. I haven't looked.) At 12:34 PM 9/18/96 -0800, Jim McCoy wrote: >Yes, B is possible. At the moment the devices only work for relatively >small sequences but this is improving and the current generation should be >able to handle a constructing a bacteria sequence pretty well... Ergo >you _can_ send samples of the beast through the net (or at least genetic >clones.) Oh well, if not this year, then next people will be able to down load any virus/bacteria they want. Come the millennium, it will be plants, with mice and rats to follow. Black Unicorn wrote: >My point was that in the eyes of the "leaders" all that is required to >make the net responsible for the proliferation is for the process to be >describeable in a simple one or two page set of instructions (such as >Anthrax is). I have no problem with your point. Mine was intended as sarcasm. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | "Cave softly, cave safely, | Periwinkle -- Consulting (408)356-8506 | and cave with duct tape." | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | - Marianne Russo | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Banking over the net
by craigw＠dg.ce.com.au 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

For some time several Australian Banks have been interested in setting up online banking via the web. Currently the Commonwealth Bank does have online banking, but on non-internetworked servers. This requires an encrypted password. Currently this involves logging into the bank server directly transfering the password, at which case the user has access to their accounts. The unfortunate details are that the instructions for the account are not sent encrypted. Apart from the initial password, all data is sent plain text. There is likely to be implemented an inital web trial of this service in December this year. Hopefully the security will be upgraded a little. Where this is not likely is that the likely canditate for encryption over the net is going to be 40bit netscape (as what bank wants to go against the wishes of the US gov). The banks feel secure in that they are providing a 128bit secured password to the customer via mail. This seems to be the end of the security. While the average member of the public blindly trusts the banks to keep them safe, and untill there is a user friendly means of encrypting data (that the US government supports), I can see alot of room for fraud. ,'~``. \|/ ,'``~. (-o=o-) (@ @) ,(-o=o-), +--.oooO--(_)--Ooo-----oOO-(_)-OOo-------oooO--(_)--Oooo.------+ | | | Soon, we may all be staring at our computers, wondering | | whether they're staring back. | | | | [Network Admin For WPA Business Products. aka doshai >;-) ] | | .oooO http://pip.com.au/~doshai/ Oooo. | | ( ) Oooo. .oooO ( ) | +-----\ (----( )-------oooO-Oooo--------( )--- ) /---------+ \_) ) / \ ( (_/ (_/ \_) Key fingerprint = 2D F4 54 BB B4 EA F1 E7 B6 DE 48 92 FC 8D FF 49 Send a message with the subject "send pgp-key" for a copy of my key. (if I want to give it to you)

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No Subject
by attila 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mike Farrell, actor and longtime opponent of the death penalty: "We don't rape rapists, we don't burn arsonists, why should we kill killers?" well, come to thing of it, why don't we let a bull rape a rapist? or burn an arsonist at the stake? seems fair to me. maybe even sell tickets to pay for the cost. -- one of the few things we all share: the utter, corrosive contempt for our elected officials. -- Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly, and for the same reason.

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Stinger Specs
by Black Unicorn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Stinger (AIM-92) (Jane's #: 6604.331) 152 x 7-14 cm (l x d - span) Weight: 18 kg Warhead: HE Propulsion: Solid Range: 2-4 km Guidance: IR Exact effective range / altitude is not listed in the quick guide I have on my desk. I will pull it out of a larger volume when I have time. -- I hate lightning - finger for public key - Vote Monarchist unicorn(a)schloss.li

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Cypherpunk Enquirer [NOISE]
by Mixmaster 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

THE CYPHERPUNK ENQUIRER "Encyphering minds want to know." The EFF announced an agreement with the Clinton administration that will "guarantee Americans rights to privacy and anonymity on the Internet for the forseeable future". The agreement, which includes unspecified concessions by the President on matters of encryption, privacy, and the export of encryption programs, is to be signed today in the White House Rose Garden. An EFF official, who wished to remain anonymous, chortled, "We got basically what we wanted, and all we had to do was give up Czechoslovakia." Cellular One today announced the signing of noted Cypherpunk Tim May as their official Internet spokesperson. Mr. May will be filming a series of commercials featuring himself in a hot tub calling a variety of 1-900 numbers on a cellular phone, while a voice-over by Cellular One executives extoles their recently announced 'Geek Plan', featuring free calls during computer hacker's normal waking hours of 7pm to 7am, with all calls to pizza parlors for delivery half-price for the first year. The commercials, the first to be filmed entirely in the 'quick-time' format, should be appearing on commercial web pages within the month. The Cypherpunk Academy of Codes and Cyphers has announced the first official offshoot of the Cypherpunks list. The Junior Auxillary, anchored by the new mailing list cyphertots(a)juno.com, will give budding hackers the chance to get out of the house and hear famous Cypherpunks like Bill Stewart and Robert Hettinga lecture on topics such as "The Port 25 Hack - Fact or Fiction", "Hacking the Transmitter on Your Ankle Bracelet", and "SPAM - Cypherbabes are Impressed by a REALLY BIG One." To join, send a message with the body "subscribe cyphertots" to majordomo(a)cybercrime.fbi.gov. (note to juno.com - we don't do personals) In related news, John Young will be tutoring Dr. Dimitri Vulis in English as a Second Language. Scientists flocked to toad.com recently in response to the first authenticated sighting of a Perrygram in months. The Perrygram, only recently thought extinct, was spotted on the cypherpunks mailing list after an absence of several months. Specialists speculate that it may have detected the recent list increase in its favorite food - pure, unadulterated bullshit. The Reputation Capital markets remained in a deep slump after the recent closings of alpha.c2.org and anon.penet. Analysists estimate the loss in over 1 billion in reputation capital, with the effect spilling over to the rest of the market. Since the loss of anon.penet, Black Unicorn is down 12 5/8, Atilla down 4 3/4 to 8 1/2, Jim Ray is down 10, and Tim May, as usual, is being investigated by the Blacknet Securities and Exchange Commission for his timely shorting of Lucky Green. Novell President Joe Marengi announced today that Novell would begin bundling Microsoft's Internet Explorer with Novell Netware in the third quarter. In return, Microsoft announced plans to release his 8 year old daughter Suzanne unharmed. Next in the Enquirer: HIDE THE KIDS! FIRE UP SURFWATCH! Sandy Sandfort's latest party - WE HAVE MPEGS!

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