December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

RE: Risk v. Charity (was: RE: Workers Paradise. /Politica...
by jbugden＠smtplink.alis.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Black Unicorn <unicorn(a)schloss.li> wrote: >On Tue, 17 Sep 1996 jbugden(a)smtplink.alis.ca wrote: >> Black Unicorn <unicorn(a)schloss.li> >> >You are saying that everyone on the planet has a right to health >> > insurance and disability insurance whether they can afford it or not. >> > This is folly. The result is serious moral hazard problems. >> >> Almost, but not quite. I'm saying that within our two countries at least >> (Canada, U.S.) everyone could have access to medically necessary >> procedures because the *society as a whole* can afford it. > >The decisions about what is or is not medically necessary must by >design be made by government in a socialized medicine regime. People do make decisions that affect other people. If you feel safer in the good hands of Allstate than at the government trough, good for you. Personally, I trust in Allah, but I still tie up my camel. > This evades an important point as well. Namely, who cares if society > can afford it? Some things are seen as investments in the future of a society. I view both Education and Health through this lens. >> But there is a balance between accurately pricing the risk and >> minimizing the cost of the bureacracy that polices this pricing. > > Oh, I see. Let's give the program to the government then. Good idea. > That will reduce the cost of the bureacracy. The point is still valid. Are we not trying to minimize this cost? >> There are also many ways to modify behaviour, not all of them direct. > > And all of them buy into the notion that people are not to be made > personally responsible for their high risk behavior. There it is again. Blame the sick for their lack of moral fibre. Not every victim of lung cancer smokes. Besides, people are notoriously poor at evaluating the probability of unlikely events (see reference below). A "punishment" that happens 30 years after the "crime" is no deterrent. Prevention is usually cheaper than treatment. > I prefer market solutions. I prefer solutions. James

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Re: ListSTAR/SMTP
by StarNine Eval Key Service 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Assassination Politics, was Kiddie porn on the Internet
by Michelle Thompson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From: kwheeler(a)intellinet.com >Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 10:54:35 -0500 >X-Sender: kwheeler(a)intellinet.com >To: Michelle Thompson <mthompso> >Subject: Re: Assassination Politics, was Kiddie porn on the Internet Interesting information from a friend of mine- >An american can not serve for pay for a position in another military >that could be filled by local populace. I may have my jurisdiction >wrong tho, this could be an international law not a US law. >Basically, you can't go be a grunt or an assasin in another country, >because they can find their own, but one can, however, fly P-40 Warhawks for >China in 1941 because there were no chinese planes/pilots. Guys from soldier >of fortune (tho they do volunteer work) could be hired as 'experts' at >whatever, removing mines, etc... It's very touchy. But, the worst thing about >it all, is that the geneva convention doesn't protect mercenaries....so awful >things could be done to them, and the world wouldn't see that as war crimes. > >-Keith I believe that with the breakdown of the traditional sense of sovereignty, mercenary activity, whether military or commercial in nature, will increase. Engineering seems to be quite mercenary already, and very international. Marketing and advertising, to a novice (me), seem to be going the same way. Hence my interest in cryptography. Data security is essential in international engineering projects. Michelle Thompson

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Re: The Expat Tax Is Law - The Door Is Now Closed!
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:20 PM 9/17/96, Duncan Frissell wrote: >At 05:11 AM 9/17/96 -0700, Tim May wrote: > >>It makes me want to just put my stock certificates in my luggage and just >>drive on down to Mexico and cross the border (no border checks) and go >>from there to some safer haven. >> >>(However, I imagine the Feds can effectively block sales of my stock--the >>stock is still formally only an accounting entry, as stock certificates >>are not "bearer instruments." I could probably relocate to a foreign haven >>and sell the assets before the IRS would even notice...unless they >>computerize. I suspect this is coming.) > >But since a 10-year old (who is willing to break the law) can defeat their >expat tax, what difference does it make. All one has to do is cash out, >transfer all funds overseas, follow them, and renounce. Move the funds >around a little. It's not tax fraud (no false documents have been uttered >-- indeed no documents at all). Just take your marbles and go home. While I've always admired your "in-your-face" approach to tax matters, I remain skeptical. What I expect will happen is some variant of "witholding" to be implemented, where one's "transfer agent" (the holder of one's actual stock, regardless of who holds the paper certificates) releases only, say, 60% of the proceeds from a sale and holds the remaining 40% for eventual settlement of taxes. (Much as one's employer "witholds" a percentage, ranging up to 50% or so, for Federal, State, and FICA taxes.) --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1,257,787-1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Systems/Communications Security Positions in the South Bay
by steve＠tsearch.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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All Bets Off
by Brock N. Meeks 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Just so this isn't hanging in cyberspace forever, my $5,000 bet for anyone to prove the TWA 800 flight was downed by a U.S. missile is now *off the table*. It's been two-plus weeks since I tossed out the bet and no one took me up on it, so it's now being formally withdrawn. --Brock

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Re: Judge Kozinski Responds
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 9:21 PM 9/16/96, Jim Ray wrote: >I have been having a private e-mail conversation with Judge Alex Kozinski of >the 9th circuit. Today he said: >>Halloween, it only really works when the people dressed up >>are about four feet tall. In the rare instances where there >>have been adults at my door that were so disguised you >>couldn't tell who they were, I felt threatened--kept my >>Glock handy before opening door. I'll only comment on this one item, for now. Any judge who talks about keeping his Glock handy has my vote. (Of course, I've heard of such things many times before. Chief Supreme Warren Burger once got a lot of publicity by answering his door--in D.C.--with a revolver in one hand. I suspect that an awful lot of judges fully appreciate the kind of perps that are out there, and know the threats they could face, both from random acts of violence and home invasion and from targetted acts of revenge. As they learn that perps they send away to prison are requesting archived copies of "Assassination Politics," I rather expect their paranoia will increase sharply.) (Hint: One reason I seldom discuss AP is that to me it's just a special case of the larger issue of untraceable markets for such acts, something I've been worried about for almost a decade now. There is little reason to engage in the fiction of a "betting pool" when a hit may be untraceably contracted for and the standard fee ($1000 or less in some inner cities, $5000 for ordinary suburbanites, $30,000 or more for high-profile cases...so I hear) be paid with untraceable cash...as soon as truly untraceable digital cash becomes a reality.) --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1,257,787-1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Diffie Hellman - logs in Galois fields
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi all, A question for the matematicians out there: I am looking at the Diffie Hellman public key exchange protocol and am trying to find out why it is computationally hard to take logs in a finite (Galois) field. My maths tutor has told me a bit about the construction of Galois fields (If I`m correct the construction is Z mod N, N some integer, then a transformation F(x) on the residue classes already in the field) I know also the definition is that there are P**k elements, p a prime. My questions are as follows: 1. How can a field be finite, as by definition it has to be closed under addition, subtraction, multiplication and division???? (sorry if this one is a bit of a no brainer, maybe the definition is different but I can`t seem to see how) 2. Why is taking logs in a finite field computationally hard? - Me and Alec (My maths tutor at college) guessed that it is because exponentiation and logs are each others inverse functions, and somehow this becomes a one way function in a finite field. 3. Are the Galois fields used in Diffie Hellman specially constructed in any way or are they just normal GF???? Thanks for any help anyone can give me.... Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Http://www.fatmans.demon.co.uk/crypt/ "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey" -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.3ia mQCNAjH9j+cAAAEEAMBvREiQR0ot9dFCO0TiSCSunAYLv2g1Bc6I3bz8FzKXNH53 6mieJf/W4rD+CxJpT0q9RQaaoRtkHJLwbjfK2il3D7mEahMAyqvF/xRJNqkXfhM3 sRJM0Jh43l+W0M5vwokbEbk25/bxWWGspTsLD3YHbzKnG6pOcL5OPIRbv66xAAUR tCdQYXVsIEJyYWRsZXkgPHBhdWxAZmF0bWFucy5kZW1vbi5jby51az6JAJUDBRAy NwfvNkCBjDT0xHEBATQPA/9TORmN/UjNecj03q4anpvdyCLiez5sKuNbnYK50RiP Jj4QpWWvST3smyQ0A86DrZY/re056MXwQmARESx0rFZxdnD0oORICl5r8dJLIy3b j8rbA5olXwZwKz73/X5s13v/pvHYX4cIsbVK8NHXqh5llSKt6TBAuGgkIGF29z5k C4kAlQMFEDI3B9mdtf/umVkv7QEBcRYD/1FBteLqsUmr81euxqqnnrpLlyHb58B/ 9sdATuua4uSjX46hXDZ264YozspNrzSB4NEdrmXOWVX3fiE0ga6XkSSkIeF23V90 En37Z0BdbFzgF00FRYTFyTq8eezQrdg/+rBPUsZUmG5wpq3e12FKHQsX01i+1mB2 YmqqwCV5e95eiQCVAgUQMh8uSb5OPIRbv66xAQEqJwP/fxQyiCasjFcbDpsFfsYp put5cCC/9pOx6X3DlbKShPMpUOS+A9HsTEmJQN8Iawv1nSwPdtc2cR/GhW6ilVjW LSloGdMVLabm9pGpZZMkRaZlXFUkOv7VhfgsUiL+vIDryBCAwUZCzQiWycjt/cPi mUqFH41Z7NkyO8ZFdi5GGX0= =CMZA -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Re: Anthrax on the 'net [Was Re: Fear of Flying -- from HotWired ]
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 9:14 PM 9/17/96, Mike Fletcher wrote: > The Frank Herbert (of _Dune_ fame) book _White Plague_ comes >to mind. Basically a molecluar biologist's wife and kids are killed >by an IRA bomb while visiting Dublin. He snaps and creates a plague >which kills women (men are carriers) as revenge. All without using >that nasty Internet (in fact, the book was written back before even >ARPAnet). A _very_ minor correction. My copy of "The White Plague" is not handy, but I distinctly recall reading it circa 1980-1, certainly no earlier than 1977-8. The ARPANet was going strong by then. Newsgroups were getting started around 1980, give or take, as I recall. But of course I agree that "The White Plague" was written long before "The Net" became a household name. (Interestingly, Herbert was computer-literate, and he even wrote a book about using PCs, circa the late 70s....something like "Nailing Jelly to a Tree.") --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1,257,787-1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Wealth Tax vs. Capital Gains Tax Reduction
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've been thinking a lot about the prospects of a "wealth tax," or "asset tax," in the U.S. With the stock market averages at record levels (and, hey, Intel has gone up $6 just so far today, to an unheard of $94.5 level), and with increasing fractions of people's overall net worth tied up in equities, bonds, houses, property, etc., it may be that the looters will take a more serious look at taxing people's overall wealth, e.g., the 5% of net worth per year that some countries have. (At the same time, there is also a chance that the tax on capital gains will be greatly reduced or even possibly eliminated, also as some countries such as Japan have already done.) The conundrum is this: so long as stocks, bonds, and other holdings are not taxable while unsold, and so long as large amounts of private pension funds and whatnot are flowing into equities, this wealth is "unreachable" to the government tax collectors. Further, much of this wealth is "locked" by the high marginal tax rates on capital gains (35-40%, depending on which state one lives in, on so-called "tax preference items," etc.) Many people will not sell assets if they have to pay 35-40% to the tax man if they sell, but nothing if they just sit on the asset and watch it go up in value. (Obviously, the assets get sold eventually. But many people will choose to simply not worry about the heavy taxes _this_ year, and delay selling 'til some future date. They may also think the capital gains rates will go down, or may have visions of taking their stock certificates and simply moving to Anguilla :-}.) If this trend continues--more money in equities and investments, and a higher overall valuation (as prices are driven up by more folks getting in, and by other conventional factors)--the government would seem to have two main choices: 1. Start taxing the overall wealth, e.g., 5% per year. 2. Reduce capital gains taxes so that the "locked assets" will at least come to market and generate some income from capital gains, even if at a reduced level. At 6:38 PM 9/17/96, Duncan Frissell wrote: >Note too the recent article in the Economist about how European firms are >raising capital in the UK and the US because it is available there in >private pension savings while European government retirement systems suck >loads of capital out of the system leaving nothing but massive government >debts. The flow of capital into equities is truly astounding. Some fraction of Americans are really preparing themselves well for retirement, emergencies, vacations, etc. Of course, a distressing fraction of Americans have no savings plans to speak of, and will essentially have no money as they age. Needless to say, I despise the idea of a "wealth tax," and I can see various loopholes and workarounds. I'd also expect a lot of folks to simply move out of the country if this were to happen. In the current political climate, I'd say the chance of a wealth tax in the next several years is small. Ditto for a capital gains tax rate reduction. As with selling assets, "doing nothing" is often the likeliest path. --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1,257,787-1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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