December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Internal Passports
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:01 PM 8/4/96 -0700, Lucky Green wrote: >At 15:48 8/4/96, Bill Stewart wrote: > >>I wonder if they'll still accept an American passport; the country >>has obviously been taken over by Pod People while we weren't looking.... > >A US passport is not considered valid ID by the State of Oregon. If >somebody here doesn't belive this, send someone who looks like he might be >under 21 into any liquor store in Oregon with just an US passport. This is because Oregon has been taken over by The Pod People. (Or at least, the Oregon Liqueur Control Commission has.) Getting such foolishness reversed is difficult when you have as many control freaks in the State Legislature (and elsewhere). --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon "Microsoft -- Nothing but NT promises."

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Re: A Libertine Question
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:18 PM 7/31/96 -0400, DCF wrote: >Since there are no "public places" in a free society, If it _were_ a free society, there would be places that nobody had conquered yet, common and usable by anyone (as opposed to today's "public" spaces that had been conquered by a government which claims the right to exclude others, and places owned by individuals or groups which the government has said are none-the-less public.) There would probably also be places that were owned by people who had somehow acquired the right to kick other people out; you can argue about whether a free society should treat land this way. (Most land ownership in the US derives from land grants given by kings who were put in place by watery tarts handing out swords or equally authoritative processes, or from land that the Yankees stole from the Mexicans and then re-stole from the Indians and granted to the railroads.) In a human-created environment like cyberspace the existence of ownable spaces is obviously true, unlike found spaces like land. There are also found spaces in cyberspace where there's no particular rightness to assigning ownership, and places that even if you decide ownership through first use is a good thing, people can decide to leave unowned or shared. IP address space and domain name space are good examples - property ownership is a useful analogy, preventing conflicts by multiple people who want the name foo.com, but once you've suggested naming things *.com, it's fair game. On the other hand, since the Internet is a cooperative shared fiction, if you want people to be able to find and connect to you, getting the popular nameservers and routers to point the name joesgarage.microsoft.com and IP address 127.0.0.2 in your direction may not be highly productive. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # <A HREF="http://idiom.com/~wcs"> Defuse Authority!

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key escrow article on the Asahi Shinbun
by Hayashi_Tsuyoshi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I found key escrow article on the Asahi Shinbun. Asahi Shinbun is one of the most famous Japanese newspaper. I can't write more info because I am busy now. BTW, Asahi Shinbun has their own server: URL: http://www.asahi.com/. # English version is also available. - Tsuyoshi Hayashi <take(a)barrier-free.co.jp> - PGP public key: http://www.barrier-free.co.jp/take/pgpkey - (CF 27 34 5B 46 FA 2A 12 D2 4C E3 F7 2A 45 E0 22) - Barrier Free, Inc. (established on 25 Jan 1996)

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Re: "And who shall guard the guardians?" [NOISE]
by Arun Mehta 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 13:50 04/08/96 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: >>restrictions, but these shall only be such as are provided by law >>and are necessary: >>(a) For respect of the rights or reputations of others; >>(b) For the protection of national security or of >>public order (ordre public), or of public health or morals. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ > >Lots of UN declarations of rights have this sort of exception; >"protection of public morals" is something so blatantly vague >and broad that if a government contends that such a concept exists, >as the covenant does, it could probably force the World Court >to conclude that it permits them to declare as "necessary" >just about anything short of burning witches and heretics, >and humanely beheading heretics, drug dealers, and anonymous remailer >operators is probably ok by this standard. Heretics it depends, drug dealers no problem, but anonymous remailer operators haven't been beheaded yet. Their persecution will probably take much more subtle forms -- denial of government jobs or contracts (lawbreakers and anarchists, after all), whatever hurts most. There are many ways of manipulation in an advanced, information based society that are no less cruel than the torture of more overtly authoritarian ones. International covenants aren't entirely useless: governments have to report to the UN how much success they are having in implementation, and are questioned closely. If indeed the fears of many of you come true, cypherpunks will have far greater awareness of human rights instruments and their usefulness (or lack thereof) before the century is done. Arun Mehta Phone +91-11-6841172, 6849103 amehta(a)cpsr.org http://www.cerfnet.com/~amehta/ finger amehta(a)cerfnet.com for public key

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Re: More to be paranoid about...
by Lynne L. Harrison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:14 PM 8/3/96 -0700, Alan Olsen wrote: >Take a look at: > > http://www.spiritone.com/cgi-bin/plates > >Feed it an Oregon licence plate number and it will feed you back all sorts >of info about the person/victim. Not surprising at all. Unbeknownst to most of the general populace, DMV records (for the most part) are public records and are subject to Freedom of Information requests. AAMOF, I have an account with NYS/DMV which I use to pull my clients' records when they are charged with DWI and/or other traffic offenses. I simply dial into DMV's [outdated] computer and pull the record. It also came in handy on a personal level when I did not get my registration card after buying my car and discovered that the dealer had not registered my car. ************************************************************ Lynne L. Harrison, Esq. | "The key to life: Poughkeepsie, New York | - Get up; lharrison(a)mhv.net | - Survive; http://www.dueprocess.com | - Go to bed." ************************************************************ DISCLAIMER: I am not your attorney; you are not my client. Accordingly, the above is *NOT* legal advice.

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Re: crypto CD source
by Remo Pini 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Mon Aug 05 09:07:49 1996 Addendum: If I have more than 1000 buyers, the price drops to around 9 USD per CDROM. >Estimated prices (USD) - If I have at least 300 "certain" buyers: >CDROM with 2-color label and jewel-case: USD 13.- >Shipment US: USD 3.- (swiss mail sucks!) >Shipment Europe: USD 2.- >Since the origin of those CD's is Switzerland, no ITAR would apply. - --------< fate favors the prepared mind >-------- Remo Pini rp(a)rpini.com PGP: http://www.rpini.com/remopini/rpcrypto.html - ------< words are what reality is made of >------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBMgWdxhFhy5sz+bTpAQEsmQf9GwGi2Mz3e6/HlTA0Ry5FpI14uPxk7qzS id7GJ50dL88q8M0JcLEOEWu3SZuhvgInV7aG3YzhjyaOs8tmCW1WKilUzgDXyIMQ mnvlqfWilquKRQN2LW+5DjBaECeuDTHSYH/EJofsU7v6ivLBCe39yM51h+5SFG0c mZRQebJFBge6udvhFfdtoDWMP7D1pZE+6ZtOCFeeZUmntNQtGH7KLD/rijfiuFWN uwl1d2779QDhu4FtEOm363f9HO4r2fU7K5B7g0dSeBF2uhZCgcJd7TzhwkmSupxO rT0VyJtYy6YcTs9YFbvxNABQ6RtRvKVbSxzLGAdPkAKXFDFodjTw6w== =2Z4p -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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by WebChat Broadcasting System 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: crypto CD source
by Remo Pini 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Mon Aug 05 09:03:30 1996 Well, I could. Estimated prices (USD) - If I have at least 300 "certain" buyers: CDROM with 2-color label and jewel-case: USD 13.- Shipment US: USD 3.- (swiss mail sucks!) Shipment Europe: USD 2.- Since the origin of those CD's is Switzerland, no ITAR would apply. If you're interested (at least 300 of you), mail me. Subject line: CryptoCD Anonymous guys ignored (but data handled confidentially and encrypted on my machine). If you want more than one, send more than one mail (but with a different body, so I can kill duplicated mails). Once I get more than 300 requests, I'll start putting it together and have it mastered. At that point I will request a written order (fax or so). If anyone has a better idea on how to handle the stuff, mail me... > I have about 100MB (compressed) of crypto archives, papers, source code, > etc etc, reasonably well organised with descriptions of each file. I've > got a friend to put it on CD, but only for my own use. If there's > someone who can get them done in bulk outside the US you could probably > use this as a crypto CD (I don't think there's anyone in NZ who could do > it, and I don't really want the hassle of organising the whole thing). - --------< fate favors the prepared mind >-------- Remo Pini rp(a)rpini.com PGP: http://www.rpini.com/remopini/rpcrypto.html - ------< words are what reality is made of >------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBMgWcxBFhy5sz+bTpAQE1/gf/eJI+dt1guw0joLKoBpm0ShpvK3/fHFwb SUlMJSaLgEODR9DRCC+uYc3+mRTNLrup8w1XIcQO1OAZO/GQumL97y8TtLp8fBpY FcNTYxtXY/UflHE5OySLWIz4jfNArIpZBxXb/zuUqrAqCj5NsWWHUsb45CM/j8cy 1dYT5wcoGELbJiZy1jVZV6eEmqliZIZAtD+fU+bq4oJIgDRCEDWt6RTJPhoHfx5F wxEuOkpeBQi8uJD9gL85lk5S7Exa1n/0u8+UgE1sm9UMIRA8IOzRK3lIlRvT+0VI 0r2lK4wnKdhmILkPcxGq+82bUZ7HUepS4oZGAduzhW73ANtMEzVPxw== =5+88 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: crypto CD source
by Remo Pini 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Mon Aug 05 10:08:19 1996 I'm looking for contents for the crypto CD. Since this CD will (might) be mastered in Switzerland, no ITAR applies to the CD, but if anyone wants to include some restricted stuff, send it to me (dat, disk or encrypted email) Address: Pini Computer Trading "Crypto CD" Hofwiesenstr. 234 8057 Zuerich Switzerland My wish list: - - PGP - - A lot of algorithms in C, Pascal, ASM (for diverse processors) - - Private Idaho - - Pronto Secure - - a suite of html pages describing all files (I'll probably have to do that myself) - - Netscape (the secure versions, if its legally feasable -> Netscape?) - - Crypto papers - - Crypto analysis papers - - Lawtexts concerning crypto (ITAR, France, ...) Anything else? - --------< fate favors the prepared mind >-------- Remo Pini rp(a)rpini.com PGP: http://www.rpini.com/remopini/rpcrypto.html - ------< words are what reality is made of >------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBMgWr9BFhy5sz+bTpAQEOuQf+PAfJrxDLo4mEDsC8QelbBE5WHqNecmcq soPN0ZDSDzSEdbofALHBEiAW8SHVT4h1XWPNG1QjNvuCsluLN4HX1IQSfCjjCNzO /T9jqNqKbwDL5ssluD9nc/tbjaTN2zdXIVRE2/1QZmyrysT5MK5tiHzbbkrFjSy2 tVwUmEk9W+gTAzNBxLE5ni2Q6oLLuf+jnzw0jBn15nA3S7USN+G+dMsNG2ROR7ZI Lp1a9XvqtjZ41Ju1C0QVR6u53a7mB8unrxxALewF2TjJUXxJOA0W1QbxM8/aI6cb jjePr0NoohyCORLNh+pGaBQ+DXYY28JL5keCyGCr8k/INXHIksbEIQ== =aTqo -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Getting serious: Crypto CD
by Remo Pini 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: secure(a)commtouch.com, cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Mon Aug 05 10:43:16 1996 Dear Sirs I want to put together a CDROM containing "everything" a cryptographically interested person needs. I would like to include your cryptographically relevant products. The CD will be organized the following way: - - the user interface consists of HTML-pages - - one of these pages will include a directory of files - - one directory entry will be your product (whatever you prefer as a name) and leads to a page/pages of your design. - - you can use a directory named after your company (but in compliance with CDROM restrictions -> 8 letters, no special chars, i.e. "mycompny" or so) and any subdirectories you want. - - binary program space is restricted to 25 MB - - html space is restricted to 1 MB Dos and Donts: - - program limitations (stuff you only get when you register/buy the full product) must be declared. - - export/usage restrictions must be declared (US/nonUS) Further info: The CD will be sold at around USD 15 (including shipment) Advertisement: Seperate advertisment (html pages and graphics) can be made for USD 50.- per page (<200K). A link on the index page will be included. Legalese: - - This CD will be mastered and shipped outside US, so whatever you send us (if you send it from outside US) will not be affected by ITAR. - - The copyright will remain in your hands, you only grant Pini Computer Trading (PCT) the permission to duplicate and distribute the content on a CDROM and, should we choose to do so, on the internet. - - The legality of your content is your responsiblity. If you are interested, mail me... Sincerely yours, Remo Pini Pini Computer Trading PS: This message may have been forwarded by anyone. If you receive it several times, ignore the redundant mails. PSS: This message may be forwarded to anyone offering a cryptographically relevant product. (-> forward ahead, cypherpunks) - --------< fate favors the prepared mind >-------- Remo Pini rp(a)rpini.com PGP: http://www.rpini.com/remopini/rpcrypto.html - ------< words are what reality is made of >------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBMgW0JRFhy5sz+bTpAQFdsQgAsxz04ridQ+urdvMVQzpBVkjonuc0ek4Q GihsyATZi2U0Fi73UleJsOz9rsnmodvcJYvkQ2Omtp7mQOFHYWBi7nihELMb06OQ YXduCr/0BQWRX+ORrJtQtehMdctzHnQcTV1AEcCR400YQlBu2YLiB7MLWsEtvqoK 15q0q3Hu7TMOVvplgSMjAT2yAevI5iKEn1AJ5q+kqjQ81fT3KTtuJh2U06TLtSQp 2PecOIk8rPq6fy+wyQN6/PssLrbKkPIKDzMwpupDUb4rEMGNJYP/wykF4BN+vBBE 8pvpD+qd5iODCZplsQ1lY95t48xqBsZ4AQHl8W5WKha5LMBuIFVmIQ== =RdAm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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