December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Terrorism Hysteria on the Net
by Dale Drew 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:21 PM 6/10/96 -0500, snow wrote: >On Wed, 5 Jun 1996, John Young wrote: >> "You bring me a select group of hackers and within 90 days I'll bring this >> country to its knees, " says Jim Settle, retired director of the FBI's >> computer crime squad. > > Give me 15 well trained soldiers(near special forces level) and I >can do it in less than 60 days. Without touching a computer. > To understand where "They" think they are coming from, you have to compare Apples-to-Apples. The concern is the medium of choice; the Internet and it's high availability of anonymity, coupled with its access to large amounts of computer systems available via one virtual channel. A well orchestrated and well researched attack by the right folk, as the thought process goes, could in-fact, potentially affect large amounts of critical computer systems within a short period of time. And while the government has inroads available to identify potential physical terrorists threats, they do not feel as prepared for the virtual ones. =============================================================== Dale Drew MCI Telecommunications Manager internetMCI Security Engineering Voice: 703/715-7058 Internet: ddrew(a)mci.net Fax: 703/715-7066 MCIMAIL: Dale_Drew/644-3335

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Re: [SF Bay Area] Internet security course at Stanford
by bogdan＠ljextra.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > >Seen on the net: > > >The Western Institute of Computer Science announces >a week-long course on > >INTERNET SECURITY > >taught at Stanford University > >July 29 -- August 2, 1996 > >Course Fee: > $1,450 (includes instruction, complete set of course notes, > break refreshments, and Tuesday night reception.) > $1,575 for registration after July 15 Any guys from this list are gonna take a class for $1500??

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AOL 3.0 and SSL
by John Pettitt 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I see AOL 3.0 how has SSL - does anybody know if they ran the encrypted pipe out to the browser or stopped it at the AOL host ... since it's possible to connect to the AOL host via the net the latter would be a very silly idea ... John Pettitt, jpp(a)software.net VP Engineering, CyberSource Corporation, 415 473 3065 "Technology is a way of organizing the universe so that man doesn't have to experience it." - Max Frisch PGP Key available at: http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/htbin/pks-extract-key.pl?op=get&search=0xB7AA37…

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Re: Terrorism Hysteria on the Net
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:21 PM 6/10/96 -0500, snow wrote: >On Wed, 5 Jun 1996, John Young wrote: > >> "You bring me a select group of hackers and within 90 days I'll bring this >> country to its knees, " says Jim Settle, retired director of the FBI's >> computer crime squad. > > Give me 15 well trained soldiers(near special forces level) and I >can do it in less than 60 days. Without touching a computer. > There was a blue print published by Omni Magazine in the mid to >late 80's written by Henry Kissinger (IIRC). > Give me 15 McVey's with the ability to follow orders and I'll have >this country in chaos in 2 weeks. > > It isn't that hard, it is just that almost everyone prefers the >current system to total death & destruction chaos that follows a strong >government collapsing. Doesn't this statement represent something of a bias in favor of today's system? Is the "total death and destruction chaos" a function of the collapse of that strong government, or the immediate tendency of it to be replaced with dictator wannabes? In other words, if a "strong government" could be brought down with a guarantee that nobody would be able to even begin to replace it, might that not be an entirely different matter? >Society holds itself together in large part not >because of the rule of law, but becaue most people want it to. Doesn't this statement contradict the previous statement you made? If there's "chaos" perhaps that's merely because a small group of people is trying to take control. Most people want peace, but it can be disturbed by a minority. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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[NOISE] whitehouse queries files on political enemies
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 10 Jun 96 at 13:21, Vladimir Z. Nuri wrote: > what goes around comes around.. > this reminds me of the old stories of Nixon and the various NSA > domestic programs mentioned by Bamford ("Puzzle Palace") > > > - ------- Forwarded Message Old news, actually. It came over the wire Firday night. Can't think of anything about it relevant to crypto at the moment...

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No Subject
by Blake Wehlage 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Blake "Pokey" Wehlage Age-13 Gaa- 3.69 (for ice hockey goalie) <jwilk(a)iglou.com> President of Revolution Software Quote- Does whiskey count as beer? -Homer Simpson

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Cypherpunk Enquirer
by enquirer＠alpha.c2.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

THE CYPHERPUNK ENQUIRER "Encyphering minds want to know." The Enquirer's Public Service Award for this month goes to ABC Evening News, which, after noting that 25% of America's children have access to bomb-making instructions via the Internet, proceeded to provide those instructions to the 75% without Internet access. ABC News President Roone Arledge defended the decision to describe the explosives made from commonly available household ingredients, stating that "In the interest of public safety, we omitted the final instruction to 'light the fuse and run like hell'." The Cypherpunk Academy of Codes and Cyphers recently announced a new nomination for the Perry Award. The nomination for this prestigious award, given to the cypherpunk who has done the most in the past year to increase the S/N ratio of the list, goes to Alex de Joode, for shutting down the famed Hacktic remailer and refusing to confirm or deny that the reason was actually the fact that the entire staff of Hacktic, Int. has recently converted to the Church of $cientology. The resulting rumors set of a wave of paranoia on the list regarding the future of the remailer network, and resulted in a few cypherpunks actually writing code for the first time in recent memory. Mr. de Joode, interviewed while peddling e-meter software for $10,000 in Amsterdam's red light district, refused all comment. Curtis Sliwa had to return the $10,000 today when it was discovered that the .gif of "a woman's genitals nailed to a board" that the CyberAngels presented to the ACLU lawyers in the CDA appeal hearing was really a photo of his wife Lisa's labial piercings. Rich Graves finally got his Doctor of Divinity degree from the Universal Life Church, and requests that from now on, list members refer to him as "DR. Fucking Statist". Sotheby's Auction House today announced that the famed "Black Window" Java applet signed by Marianne Mueller has been sold for $2,500,000. The rare applet, which can damage hard drive files even though it had been signed and certified as "completely secure", was purchased by a certain Wall Street Computer Security Consultant who wishes to remain anonymous, and who placed his winning bid via anonymizer(a)c2.org. Leon Panetta belatedly admitted today that hidden away in the small print on page 1,237 of the Administration's latest "Law Enforcement Access to Encrypted Internet Traffic" proposal, otherwise known as Clipper III, was a section on the new "Republican Members of Congress FBI File Escrow Service". Logan promises to never again try to operate his Mac mail software immediately after one of those late-night Beltway cocktail parties. Former President Jimmy Carter was vindicated today when Jim Bell announced that the strange markings on recently deceased ex-CIA Director William Colby's canoe were indeed the result of rabbit bites. Sandy Sandfort's tax avoidance consulting service collapsed today when it was discovered that tax avoiders weren't any better at chaining remailers that the average Windows95 user. Next in the Enquirer: Tim May's first interview since the Catholic Jihad's announcement of their "Death Contract" with Jim Bell.

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ANNOUNCEMENT: HACKERPUNKS MAILING LIST
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

H A C K E R P U N K S "Obscurity through Security!" Hi! We are delighted to announce a new mailing list, Hackerpunks! This list is for serious folks who know stuff about computers _AND_ want to keep their privacy. The submission address is an anonymous alias, hackerpunks(a)alpha.c2.org. It is anonymous because _I_ want to keep my privacy and do NOT want to answer stupid questions. To further _your_ privacy, we can subscribe ONLY anonymous aliases user_name(a)alpha.c2.org. Mailing list messages will be forwarded to your alpha.c2.org adresses through anonymous remailers. .p This list is UNMODERATED. Due to our organization, we are unable to find out your true identity, and you are unable to find out where our list-bot resides. So - you can now have free discussion about all exploits and great hacks! Just use remailers and be safe... .p Remember i) no one can find out where the list resides ii) nobody can find out that your alpha.c2.org account is subscribed to Hackerpunks iii) nobody can find out who hides behind alpha.c2.org accounts iv) nobody can find out that you are using alpha.c2.org aliases. .p Everything goes as long as it is about hacking. We shall decide later whether we want to keep non-computer hacking discussions in this list or make another one. MODERATE FLAMAGE ONLY! .p Since remailers are used all the way from you to the list-bot and back, the time for your messages to reach subscribers will be invariably longer. You've gotta pay for security. Hackers must be patient! .p See our .sig for instructions; get premail for Unix or Private Idaho for Windows, get an anonymous account at alpha.c2.org, and subscribe! .p All subscriptions and submissions NOT originating from alpha.c2.org will be AUTOMATICALY REJECTED. That will save you YOUR OWN BUTT if you mistakenly submit a non-anonymous message. .p See ya! Schwartau, join us if you have something real to say (unlikely)! @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ H A C K E R P U N K S M A I L I N G L I S T hackerpunks(a)alpha.c2.org Send your requests to [un]subscribe to hackerpunks-owner(a)alpha.c2.org Only nyms from @alpha.c2.org may subscribe and post to this list. See http://www.c2.org/anon.phtml, http://www.c2.net/~raph/premail @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

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[NOISE] "Fascism is corporatism"
by jamesd＠echeque.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:44 AM 6/9/96 -0700, Rich Graves wrote: > All you're doing is blathering on with some > anti-intellectual lumpenlibertarian claptrap that tries to smear anything > you disagree with as tantamount to fascism. > > [...] > > Heidegger only really supported Nazism from 1933-34; in the 40's and > thereafter, he referred to Nazism as a disease. > > [...] > > any attempt to smear them as a bunch of Nazis is ludicrous > > [...] > > Your foaming-mouth projections on people who disagree with you are > laughable. During the war Heidegger wore full Nazi regalia, and compelled his students to participate in fascist rallies which he led. He consistently claimed that his philosophy led logically to fascism. See "A normal Nazi" by Thomas Sheehan, in the New York Review of Books, early 1993. Also in the same journal see a dozen of the leading lights of the academic left enthusiastically supporting a murderous Nazi and the ideas that he loudly proclaimed were fascist ideas. You revised history in favor of a couple of fascist philosophers, one of whom sent one of his former teacher to one of Hitler's concentration camps. See the following URLs for the real history. http://www.wavefront.com/~contra_m/cm/reviews/cm13_rev_heidegger.html http://www.inlink.com/~dhchase/heidig.htm You also revised history in favor of a system of ideas that has in the past been used to justify and organize the deaths of millions of people, and which has recently in America been used to justify and organize mild but widespread repression, (including the PC laws that you recently denied existed), the system of ideas that many people reasonably argue has been recently been used to justify and organize the narrowly focused severe repression, including government murder of women and children, that we have recently seen in America (which you recently denied was the intended outcome of government policy). And *you* are calling *me* an extremist. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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A guide to self control (Was funny underwear)
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A Guide to Self-Control Subject: Steps in Overcoming Masterbation Excerpt from a Mormon missionary guide, circa 1970: Steps in Overcoming Masterbation, Mark E. Petersen 1. Never touch the intimate parts of your body except during normal toilet processes. 2. If you are associated with other persons having this same problem, YOU MUST BREAK OFF THEIR FRIENDSHIP. Never associate with other people having the same weakness. Don't suppose that two of you will quit together, you never will. You must get away from people of that kind. Just to be in their presence will keep your problem foremost in your mind. The problem must be taken OUT OF YOUR MIND for that is where it really exists. Your mind must be on other and more wholesome things. 3. When in bed, if that is where you have your problem for the most part, dress yourself for the night so securely that you cannot easily touch your vital parts, and so that it would be difficult and time consuming for you to remove those clothes. By the time you started to remove protective clothing you would have sufficiently controlled your thinking that the temptation would leave you. 4. If the temptation seems overpowering while you are in bed, GET OUT OF BED AND GO INTO THE KITCHEN AND FIX YOURSELF A SNACK, even if it is in the middle of the night, and even if you are not hungry, and despite your fears of gaining weight. The purpose behind this suggestion is that you GET YOUR MIND ON SOMETHING ELSE. You are the subject of your thoughts, so to speak. 5. Never read pornographic material. Never read about your problem. Keep it out of mind. Remember -- "First a thought, then an act." The thought pattern must be changed. You must not allow this problem to remain in your mind. When you accomplish that, you soon will be free of the act. 6. Pray. But when you pray, don't pray about this problem, for that will tend to keep [it] in your mind more than ever. Pray for faith, pray for understanding of the Scriptures, pray for the Missionaries, the General Authorities, your friends, your families, BUT KEEP THE PROBLEM OUT OF YOUR MIND BY NOT MENTIONING IT EVER -- NOT IN CONVERSATION WITH OTHERS, NOT IN YOUR PRAYERS. KEEP IT _OUT_ of your mind! 7. Be outgoing and friendly. Force yourself to be with others and learn to enjoy working and talking to them. Use principles of developing friendships found in books such as _How to Win Friends and Influence People_ by Dale Carnegie. 8. Make a pocket calendar for a month on a small card. Carry it with you, but show it to no one. If you have a lapse of self control, color the day black. Your goal will be to have _no black days_. The calendar becomes a strong visual reminder of self control and should be looked at when you are tempted to add another black day. Keep your calendar up until you have at least three clear months. 9. In the field of psychotherapy there is a very effective technique called _aversion therapy_. When we associate or think of something very distasteful with something which has been pleasurable, but undesirable, the distasteful thought and feeling will begin to cancel out that which was pleasurable. If you associate something very distasteful with your loss of self-control it will help you to stop the act. For example, if you are tempted to masturbate, think of having to bathe in a tub of worms, and eat several of them as you do the act. 10. Keep your bladder empty. Refrain from drinking large amounts of fluids before retiring. 11. Reduce the amount of spices and condiments in your food. Eat as lightly as possible at night. 12. Avoid people, situations, pictures or reading materials that might create sexual excitement. 13. It is sometimes helpful to have a physical object to use in overcoming this problem. A Book of Mormon, firmly held in hand, even in bed at night has proven helpful in extreme cases. 14. In very severe cases it may be necessary to tie a hand to the bed frame with a tie in order that the habit of masturbating in a semi-sleep condition can be broken. 15. Do not let yourself return to any past habit or attitude patterns which were part of your problem. Satan Never Gives Up. Be calmly and confidently on guard. Keep a positive mental attitude. You can win this fight! The joy and strength you will feel when you do will give your whole life a radiant and spiritual glow of satisfaction and fulfillment. --

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