December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: "Utilization Review"
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 7:01 PM 8/20/96 -0400, Alan Horowitz wrote: >If you want to convince the masses - or even fashion elites such as myself >- to forego recourse to voluntary risk sharing.... you have your work cut >out for you. The insurance companies have every reason to perform "Utilization Reviews", since only they have incentive to contain costs. Our medical plans tend to insure for routine medical care and as a result, give the insurance companies the data about our routine care. If they only paid for catastrophic illness and accident care, they would only have reason to have data on that care. Do you want to share the risk of routine medical care? Or do you just want to share the risk of catastrophic illnesses and accidents? Or do you want to keep it all private. What you pay for, you can keep private. What they pay for, they can review. Your choice. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Cave ab homine unius lebri | Periwinkle -- Consulting (408)356-8506 | [Beware the man of one | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | book] - Anonymous Latin | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Re: Post Office restrictions
by Adamsc＠io-online.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Mon, 19 Aug 1996 10:18:42 -0400 (EDT"), Arley Carter wrote: >> I've told some people about a few of the loopholes mentioned on the list >> about the new post office restrictions on airmail packages. What's >> disturbing is that none of the people I'd talked to, all of whom are >> at least reasonably intelligent, had thought or heard, for instance, >> that PanAm103 only took 12 ounces or that someone could just send two >> packages. How does the news media justify its existence? (Down here, it >> seems to be serving as a propaganda arm for the Republicans) > ************ > >Where are you that the news media serves as a lapdog for the Republicans? >The local media, esp. the print media around here, Winston-Salem, NC >leans so far to the left the letters fall off the page when you up the >newspaper. :-) I'm talking about the San Diego Union-Tribune, the paper that posted huge billboard welcoming the RNC around the area, the paper that paid for the biggest fireworks display ever west of the miss, the paper that had a 6-20 page RNC insert daily, the paper that "spammed" the opinions page with pro-RNC articles. Are we starting to see what's it like? By the end, I was something like "I don't care if Bob Dole gets raped to death by a donkey, I don't want to hear about it!" >As for the national media, esp. the (C)linton (N)ews (N)etwork, need I >say more? Agreed |Home: Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> | http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htp |Autoresponder: send email w/subject of "send resume" or "send PGPKEY" |Work: cadams(a)acucobol.com | V.M. (619)515-4894 | (619)689-6579 |AcuCOBOL-85: Migrate the easy way - 100% legacy compatible, |easy GUI, ODBC, 650+ platforms w/o recompiling (like Java).

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Re: Hackers invade DOJ web site
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 5:17 AM 8/21/96, Alan Olsen wrote: >One of the best comments I have seen (from another list) was: > >"These are the people who want us to escrow our encryption keys with them >and yet they can't protect their own web site." > >I think this can be used as a very valid example as to why they are >untrustworthy to be in charge of keeping anything private and/or protected, >let alone private encryption keys. Something for future hackers to think about adding in future attacks (*): "Press HERE to access National Law Enforcement Master Key Database" or "Back Door" (with some semi-realistic-looking computer files....) or "Click HERE to download confidential FBI dossiers on Clinton's political enemies." (with a few entries on leading Republicans and former White House occupants, for verisimilitude) In other words, the DOJ attack _could have_ made some much stronger points than merely saying DOJ is linked to Hitler and pornography, etc. (* I am not by these words _encouraging_ such hacks, at least not in any active, conspiratorial, RICO sense.) --Tim May Illegal speech if said to Herr Clinton: "You suck, and those boys died!" We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: [NOISE] Airport legal question
by nathan poznick 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, Lucky Green wrote: > I know that it is a violation of federal law to joke about explosives at > the X-ray machine. Would an "I love Explosives" sticker on carry-on > luggage violate any laws? i'm not sure about any specific laws, but i know the airlines take *any* talk of explosives VERY seriously... a few years back, while i was in high school, i was on an airplane with about 15 other students, returning from an excursion... one of the other students said something to the effect of, "oh sure...yea, my cd player is really just a clever bomb in disguise.." one of the flight attendants overheard him say this, (to another student) and he was promptly taken to the front of the plane and restrained...they actually took his cd player apart to make sure there were no explosives in it...the only thing that stopped them from pressing criminal charges was the fact that all of the adult sponsor on the trip vouched for him and pleaded with the flight crew that he was just kidding... he got off with a SEVERE talking to and a cd player in less-than perfect condition... nate. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ Nathan Poznick ^ ^ <npoznick(a)harding.edu> ^ ^ http://www.harding.edu/~npoznick ^ ^ ^ ^ "640k should be enough for anybody." ^ ^ ^ ^ --Bill Gates, 1981-- ^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Re: Spamming (Good or Bad?)
by Ross Wright 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Or About 20 Aug 96, 23:12, Rich Graves wrote: > > > So is mailbombing the motherfucker, or more productively, > > > virtually picketing his ISP until they kick him off for net > > > abuse > > > > That is the kind of self righteous crap that gives me the > > creeps!!! > > Good. That's called deterrence.* The market decides. > > >From your earlier message, though, describing the "spamming" you > >do, I > really don't see you as needing deterrence <SNIP> > indiscriminately. OTOH, if you really target your audience well, > especially if a human and not a bot is in charge of selecting > prospects, then I'd call that "cold calling," not "spamming." Well, that's just the way I look at it. But some people overreact... > Unsolicited email is moderately annoying, but I don't think it's > anything to complain about. I filter all mail from unknown addresses > anyway. > > * - The cool thing about this kind of deterrence is, since you're > only defending virtual turf, you can sabre-rattle to your heart's > content without worrying about having to actually follow through. I do enjoy a little of that from time to time. Ross =========== Ross Wright King Media: Bulk Sales of Software Media and Duplication Services http://www.slip.net/~cdr/kingmedia Voice: 415-206-9906

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Fwd: Re: No Subject - Lesson in cracking (cryptoanalysis 001)
by Adamsc＠io-online.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE================== >From: "Chris Adams" <adamsc(a)io-online.com> >To: "Scottauge(a)aol.com" <Scottauge(a)aol.com> >Date: Wed, 21 Aug 96 00:14:19 -0800 >Reply-To: "Chris Adams" <adamsc(a)io-online.com> >Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Chris Adams's Registered PMMail 1.52 For OS/2 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Subject: Re: No Subject - Lesson in cracking (cryptoanalysis 001) > On Mon, 19 Aug 1996 19:34:07 -0400, Scottauge(a)aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 96-08-19 05:44:34 EDT, you write: >> SAMPLE MESSAGE: ("HAIL ERIS") >"e" is a very popular letter, so is t and s. Collect enough cypher text and >ya just match frequency to frequency - a high number of 6's are replaced with >an e, and so on down the line. >Now we just start chunking up the peices according to spelling rules we know >about - then with the help of a handy dandy spell checker like thing, when we >get close to a word, we clump the chunks together. >Actually, mixing your letters around helps cuz one needs to do a lot of >shuffling here - but believe me, algorithms are out there. Plus, the more >cipher text you provide, the easier it is to nab your info cuz there is >more >information for the particular algorithm I'm thinking of to work with. Okay wise guy. I'm going to give you a 14300 character string that starts out EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. . . How are you going to tell *what* I was talking about? I guaruntee with any message of practical length (i.e. not " ckosuuy") will have multiple possibilities, particularly when you take things like mispellings, software artifacts ("----- BEGIN PGP --------" "X-Received ..." etc.) and deliberate attempts to throw you off. That's why it's unbreakable - by anyone! |Home: Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> | http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htp |Autoresponder: send email w/subject of "send resume" or "send PGPKEY" |Work: cadams(a)acucobol.com | V.M. (619)515-4894 | (619)689-6579 | Member in good standing of the GNU whirled hors d'oeuvre ===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE=================== |Home: Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> | http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htp |Autoresponder: send email w/subject of "send resume" or "send PGPKEY" |Work: cadams(a)acucobol.com | V.M. (619)515-4894 | (619)689-6579 | Member in good standing of the GNU whirled hors d'oeuvre

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the number of the the beast is [666] (was: CIA Contra Crack and LA Gangs)
by attila 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Addressed to: Rich Graves <rich(a)c2.org> Cypherpunks <cypherpunks(a)toad.com> I'll see your bet... and raise you five.... THE MARK OF THE BEAST "He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark in their right hand and in their foreheads, and that no one may buy of sell except one who has the mark or the name of the Beast, or the number of his name" Revelation 13:16-17 The following article appeared in Nexus magazine Vol 2, No.20: The Microchip and the Mark of the Beast Dr Carl W. Sanders is an electronics engineer, inventer, author and consultant to various government organisations as well as IBM, General Electric, Honeywell and Teledyne. He is also a winner of the Presidents and Governors Award for Design Excellence. "Thirty two years of my life was spent in design engineering and electronics designing microchips in the Bio-Med field. "In 1968 I became involved, almost by accident, in a research and development project in regard to a spinal bypass for a young lady who had severed her spine. They were looking at possibly being able to connect motor nerves etc. "It was a project we were all excited about. There were 100 people involved and I was senior engineer in charge of the project. This project culminated in the microchip that we talk about now a - microchip that I believe is going to be the positive identification and mark of the beast. "This microchip is recharged by body temperature changes. Obviously you can't go in and have your battery changed every so often, so the microchip has a recharging circuit that charges based upon the body temperature changes. Over one and a half million dollars was spent finding out that the two places in the body that the temperature changes the most rapidly are in the forehead (primary position), right below the hairline, and the back of the hand (alternative position). "Working on the microchip, we had no idea about it ever being an identification chip. We looked at it as beig a very humanitarian thing to do. We were all excited about what we were doing. We were doing high-level integration for the very first time. This team was made up of people out of San Jose, people fron Motorolla, General Electric, Boston Medical Center - it was quite a group of people. My responsibility had to do with the design of the chip itself, not the medical side of if. "As the chip came to evolve, there came a time in the project when they said that the financial return on bypassing severed spines is not a very lucrative thing for us to be into, so we really need to look at some other areas. We noticed that the frequency of the chip had a great effect upon behaviour and so we began to branch off and look possibly at behaviour modification. "The project almost turned into electronic acupuncture because what they ended up with was embedding the microchip to put out a signal which effected certain areas. They were able to determine that you could cause behavioural change. "One of the projects was called the Phoenix project which had to do with Vietnam veterans. We had a chip that was called the Rambo chip. This chip would actually cause extra adrenaline flow. "I wonder how many of you know that if you can stop the output of the the pituitary gland (the signal from the pituitary gland that causes oestrogen flow), you can put a person into instant menopause and there is no conception. This was tested in India and other different parts of the world. So here you have got a birth control tool, based on a microchip. Microchips can also be used for migraine headaches, behaviour modification, upper/downer, sexual stimulant and sexual depressant. This is nothing more that electronic acupuncture, folks. "There are 250,000 components in the microchip, including a tiny lithium battery. I fought them over using lithium as a battery source but NASA was doing alot with lithium at that time and it was the going thing. I had talked to a doctor at the Boston Medical Center about what that concentration of lithium in the body could do if the chip broke down. He said that you would get a boil or grievous sore. "As the development moved along, I left the project and came back as a consultant several times. I was used in many meetings as an expert witness in regard to the uses of the microchip. "I was in one meeting where it was discussed. How can you control a people if you can`t identify them ?" All of a sudden the idea came: "Lets make them aware of lost children, etc." "This was discussed in meetings almost like people were cattle. The CIA came up with an idea of putting pictures of lost children on milk cartons. Since the chip is now accepted, you don`t see the pictures anymore, do you. It's served it's purpose. "As we developed this microchip, as the identification chip became the focal point, there were several things that were wanted. They wanted a name, an image (picture of your face), Social security number with the international digits on it, finger print identification, physical description, family history, address, occupation, income tax information and criminal record. "I've been in 17 "one world" meetings where this has been discussed, meetings in Brussels, Luxembourg, tying together the finances of the world. "Just recently in the newspapers they`ve talked about the Health Care Program, the "Womb to Tomb" identification! A positive identification. There are bills before congress right now that will allow them to inject a microchip in your child at the time of birth for identification purposes. "The president of the United States of America, under the "Emigration of Control Act of 1986", Section 100 , has the authority to deem whatever type of identification is necessary - whether it be an invisible tattoo or electronic media under the skin. So I think you have to look at the facts, folks: this is not coming as some big shock. The paving has been done ahead of time." -- "The road to tyranny, we must never forget, begins with the destruction of the truth." -- Bill Clinton, Oct. 15, 1995 at the University of Connecticut.

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Re: Husband/Wife jailed for saying Clinton Sucks
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 5:32 AM 8/21/96, Z.B. wrote: >Published in Washington, D.C. July 9, 1996 >Insult to Clinton leads to 2 arrests > >------------------------------------------------------ >By Ruth Larson >THE WASHINGTON TIMES >------------------------------------------------------ >[A] Chicago-area couple were arrested on charges of > disorderly conduct and interrogated for more than >12 hours last week, simply because the woman told >President Clinton exactly what she thought of him. > Last Tuesday, Mr. Clinton made an impromptu stop at >the "Taste of Chicago" festival in Grant Park at >midafternoon. > According to her husband, Patricia Mendoza, angered >and upset by the recent deaths of 19 U.S. airmen in >Saudi Arabia, told the president, "You suck, and >those boys died!" ... Thanks for passing this on. So much for "free speech" in a formerly free country. I've modified my .sig yet again, to include the Verboten Phrase. Clinton is truly looking like a power-mad fool. Still, I hope he wins in November. (I want to see a real impeachment, as the Arkansas news continues to come out.) By the way, the case against Richard Jewell, "THE ATLANTA BOMBER!!!!," continues to crumble...the voice on the 911 call doesn't match his, he couldn't have gotten to the phone at the time the call was made, and the hordes of investigators who tore his apartment apart (and his cabin, and so on) found no real evidence (just the "profile" evidence: some gun magazines, a photo of him cradling an AR-15, his weight, and probably a subscription to The Playboy Channel). Further, experts point out that if Jewell was working with an accomplice (to make the phone call), this blows all conventional theories of a "would-be hero" out of the water: the last thing such a would-be hero wants is an accomplice, who shares in the risk but gets none of the credit, and who could turn him in. Finally, even CNN is picking up the "CIA supplied drugs to L.A. gangs" story that the "San Jose Mercury News" ran a few days ago. Nothing in this story was a real surprise to me, as I listen occasionally to Dave Emory on the radio. Emory is no raving lunatic, in my opinion (I've met him a couple of times). The connections with the Mena, Arkansas airfield are of course quite interesting. --Tim May Illegal speech if said to Herr Clinton: "You suck, and those boys died!" We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Security Dynamics <-> Microsoft
by Mixmaster 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.briefing.com/storystk.htm 15:20 ET ****** SECURITY DYNAMICS TECHNOLOGIES (SDTI) 60 +4 1/4. Maker of security products used to protect and manage access to computer-based information is seeing its stock get a lift from news that company's RSA unit has reached licensing agreement with Microsoft (MSFT 122 1/4 -1 1/8). In return for technical cooperation and additional licensing rights for integration of RSA's technology with Microsoft's cryptoapi, Microsoft will license cryptoapi to RSA, including rights to incorporate cryptoapi into RSA's toolkit products. According to company, RSA will receive an ongoing stream of revenue from MSFT based on the use of patented RSA technology. Also, company will license software to MSFT that will enable it to include support for SDTI's hardware tokens and ace/server authentication products in future versions of Windows NT and MSFT Internet Information Server.

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Re: Spamming (Good or Bad?)
by Daniel Miskell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ross Wright writes: >On Or About 20 Aug 96, 18:09, Rich Graves wrote: > >> On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Vipul Ved Prakash wrote: >> >> > I don't know if there has been much discussion on the ethics of >> > spamming here? Is spamming free speech? >> >> Yes. >> >> So is mailbombing the motherfucker, or more productively, virtually >> picketing his ISP until they kick him off for net abuse > >That is the kind of self righteous crap that gives me the creeps!!! So civily dealing with a net abuser gives you the creeps? THAT gives ME the creeps, honestly. >> >> Ethically? We don't talk ethics much here, but I'd say it's highly >> unethical to abuse a service paid for by the pooled resources of >> many. > >I pay for my net access. I pay for my Sunday paper, it's full of ads >too!! Ethics??? Let's rat out on the EVIL spammers!! Let's turn >them into thier ISP!!! That's a load of CRAP!!!! We /all/ pay for our access. Most of us work, most of us pay for the paper, most of us put up with ads. Spam is the price of free speech. One must either, in minor cases, ignore it and move on, so as not to encourage; or, in case of extravagent abuse, send word to the isp, spread the word on the net that xxx.com is a spammer's haven (and otherwise discouraging further memberships), as well as filling the sysadmin's mailbox until the spammer is deleted and we can all move on again. It's not a load of crap, it's reality. Everything provided for civil use and enjoyment will be abused repeatedly, it's all in how we deal with it. Greetings from $hell, Daniel.

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