December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Neologism: "crackerbox"
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:43 AM 6/8/96 -0400, Robert Hettinga wrote: >I think we have another winner, folks! > >At 3:47 AM -0400 6/8/96, Bill Stewart wrote: >> It's probably close enough for anti-government work; the relative strength >> depends a lot on whether you're using general-purpose computers or >> custom crackerboxes, and on the state of the art in factoring technologies. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >I *like* it! I am sorry, but the term "crackerbox" has been deemed derogatory to Southern Americans by the Society for the Protection of American Minorities (SPAM). You will have to apply for another neologism from the Bureau of Neologisms. This time I suggest that you remember to fill out the proper paperwork so that these problems will not occur in the future. (To speed your application, please include doubling the filing fee, the first half as a check made out to the Bureau and the other half in cash.) --- |Coors - For people who don't want to think about what they are drinking.| |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ | alano(a)teleport.com |

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Re: [NOISE] Buying whales with digicash Re: Anonymous stock trades.
by Perry E. Metzger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Bill Stewart writes: > Oh, come on now, Perry - while Friedman has more sense than that, > you've been around the Libertarian party long enough to know people > who call themselves free-market environmentalists who contend that whales > will be best protected if they're owned property, Sure, but Dr. Phill Hallam-Baker, D.Phil., was contending that Friedman said the free market solution was for people to voluntarily stop buying whale meat -- he wasn't even contending that Friedman said the whales should be owned. Dr. Phill Hallam-Baker, D.Phil., presented a portrait of Friedman that is so totally out of line with even the most fuzzy headed free market types that it is almost impossible to believe that he said anything of the sort. Perry

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Re:
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:38 PM 6/8/96 +0200, Anonymous wrote: >Read the entire quote by Donne. *...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind;...* By protecting Bell's right to speak what he thinks, we serve as an example to the rest of the world of what personal freedom really means. *Those crazy Americans* > >Bell gives me the opportunity to say that his pronouncements are antithetical to the best interests of the _inhabitants_ of this nation, not simply the government itself. >Thank you, Jim. While I appreciate your...uh...appreciation, let me remind you that part of my "pronouncements" are that the current political and social system is sick. Many people around here seem to agree with this assessment. What I advocate is a comparatively simple change in the rules that could have the effect of vastly changing the way things are done. Whether these changes are in "the best interests of the inhabitants of this nation" is still an open question, and many people have agreed with me on this matter. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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need meeting location
by strick at Jihad 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

hey, could a few of you forward me the location of the bay area meeting today .... sorry to bother you, but the ftp server seems to be down ... thanks,,,, strick(a)yak.net

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Re: RFD: Time to kick some anti-scientologist ass?
by jamesd＠echeque.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Declan B. McCullagh" <declan+(a)CMU.EDU> writes: >> The attached summary is substantially incorrect. At 12:29 PM 6/8/96 EDT, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: >You mean, the anti-scientologists aren't massively forging cancels >for scientologits' posts on alt.religion.scientology using my cancelbot? No: He means that the anti-scientologists are massively forging cancels of robotically generated spam produced by the scientologists in an effort to close down the alt.religion.scientology newsgroup. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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NOISE: "Fascism is corporatism"
by jamesd＠echeque.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Like someone who cannot resist looking at a dreadful traffic accident, I continue to participate in this Detweiler inspired troll: At 07:09 PM 6/7/96 -0700, Rich Graves wrote: > you forget that I'm a > Certified Political Scientist. > [...] > Once they got in power, then they started developing an economic ideology. Untrue: Fascism is of course a reasonably complete, coherent, and philosophically consistent logical system, almost as coherent as marxism, and far more logical than Mill's utilitarianism. It was published and thoroughly debated well before they pursued or took power. Rich Graves's lie is a lie I frequently hear from those who well know the truth, Many of my readers will think I am excessively harsh, calling Rich Graves a liar rather than a fool, but I hear the above story (that fascism is not a coherent ideology or philosophy) primarily from those whose interests this story serves, and if they genuinely thought this story was true, they would not know that it is in their interests to push it. Therefore one may reasonably conclude that most who push this story are knowingly lying, that it is a widespread lie, not a widespread fallacy or an alternate interpretation of the truth. I mostly hear it from those whose economic ideology strongly resembles fascism, or those whose philosophy is directly descended from fascism, is in fact fascist philosophy. Rich's economic ideology does not seem to resemble fascism, so I would guess he is in the second category but not the first. Most PC folk are postmodernists, poststructuralists, deconstructionists, etc, which philosophies directly descend from fascist philosophy, and he seems to be PC, so this would explain his peculiar assertion above. Not only do such concepts as feminist science, phallocentric science, etc, strongly resemble such concepts as aryan science, jewish science, etc, but they are justified using the same arguments from the same philosophers. Indeed Heidegger was not only a philosopher of fascism, but he personally participated in Hitler's terror, terrorizing his academic colleagues, and Paul De Man of Yale University worked directly for the Nazis as a propagandist in occupied Belgium. Hence the frequent lie by those who share this monstrous philosophy, that the fascists had no philosophy. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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alpha.c2.org IS UP AND RUNNING
by test921148＠alpha.c2.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

alpha.c2.org is working well.

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Whalepunks, Marginpunks, Gunpunks, Clintonpunks, and Politics
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

To all the Whalepunks, Marginpunks, and Gunpunks, I've been deleting after only a brief glance the dozens of posts on these subjects (funny how some people who issue "pissograms" telling people things are "off-topic" apparently think their own long rants on off-topic subjects are just fine). However, this misstatement caught my eye: At 6:30 PM 6/8/96, hallam(a)Etna.ai.mit.edu wrote: >by government. I have even heard it stated that had gun ownership been >more widespread >in the UK the Dunblane massacre would not have occurred. Whether the >teacher was >expected to gun down Hamilton with the Kalashnikov she carried to school >each day or >whether the tots were expected to come to her aid with Smith and Westons >I'm not sure. >In short I don't think that there is any type of piffle that the "most >fuzzy headed free >market types" cannot offer. Some of the folks I know would point out the logical flaws in this model. First, a Smith and Wesson is not what the tots should be carrying. An MP-5K would fit nicely in their bookpacks (especially now that all yuppie kids carry de rigeur designer backpacks, though mostly for designer water). More firepower. Second, the preferred "trans-humanist" solution is much cleaner: blow up the classroom and then restore the innocents from backups. (High-tech variant: "Kill them all and let the nanotech truth machines sort them out.") My point of view is that while schools should be free of guns, adult citizens should probably have access to guns. There are, sadly, nutty people who will use nearly any available weapon to commit mayhem and mass murder. Rifles, shotguns, axes, knives... The "Luby's" cafeteria massacre in Texas several years back is a better example than the Dunblane school shooting (or the one in Tasmania, or the one in California....). There, had some of the restaurant patrons been armed, it is likely that at least one of them could have gotten off a shot. Further, many of these nutcase killers are basically cowards, according to profiles I've read, and might be fearful of sitiuations where there victims can shoot back. When they know their victims are unarmed, are sheep for the slaughterhouse, I think this causes more such "mukkings" (to use Brunner's prescient term from "Stand on Zanzibar...Christ, what an imagination he had). Remember, "Guns don't kill people, postal workers do." In general, I think Phill raises some good points about the efficiency of free markets. However, I doubt that Cypherpunks is the proper forum for debating economic theory, for various reasons. I lean strongly toward the free market side, inasmuch as I think most non-free market economies are actually just cases where the government controls the _single_ corporation they let run an industry, and thus one gets a worse situation that with the grossest excesses of capitalism. More pollution, more strip-mining, more denudation of forests, more destruction of lakes, etc. Look at the former U.S.S.R. and Eastern Europe for a glimpse of what "state capitalism" can do. However, the reason many of us don't jump in and write defenses of free markets here (and I would not have except to make my transhumanist joke--so sue me) is that this list is not "Libernet" nor any of the similar political discussion lists. Secondly, there is almost zero chance that any of us will have our views changed by such political arguments, so why bother? (I do discuss what I think are the _logical implications_ of strong cryptography and cryptoprivacy, and even the implications of crypto anarchy, and I think these issues are "on-topic" for this list. Even if one is a socialist, a fascist, a royalist, or a Wobbly, the implications remain important.) But arguing the merits of capitalism vs. socialism, for example, has rarely been fruitful in the past 10 years of the Usenet, or on mailing lists, and I doubt the debate will be more fruitful here. The same goes for debate about Clinton, Hillary, Vince Foster, Whitewater, etc. The fact that someone forwarded a Brock Meeks story in which he (apparently, as I skimmed-then-deleted the story) make negative comments about the Clintons, and then someone chimed in with points about her allegedly illegal stock trades....well, these are clearly not list topics, in my view of course. (I claim no right to set the list agenda. Nor do I accept Perry's oft-repeated claim that I am "causing" the list's decline by stating my views on this point.) --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Internet solution for law enforcement
by drose＠AZStarNet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Alan Horowitz" alanh(a)infi.net wrote: >It appears that someone has figured out that medium-sized jurisdictions >don't want to be left out of the trendiness. And has put together a >product that can be peddled at the trade shows where Police Chiefs go. > >I recall reading that there's something like 25,000 different police >departments in America. It's a sizeable market. And a very politically >correct one, right now. > >Do these managers _need_ this stuff? Well, did they _need_ all those >black-ninja hollywood flavored SWAT uniforms? > >Now, if they could just get a few more PC-of-the-month phraseologies into >the title of their product, they'd sell twice as many. Start with >"anti-deadbeat-dad software", maybe. "Pro Diversity". "Environmentally >Friendly Software". > >Is America great, or what? You bet. PC stuff is essential. Here in Tucson, the cops came up with a novel, simple, cheap, and efficacious method to determine cocaine HCl usage: Put a strip of Scotch (TM) tape across the nostrils of a suspectee/apprehendee and see if there's any toot on it. Local judges disallowed this procedure because, in the absence of a substantial presence of African-Americans in the "community" (they comprise <2% of local population), almost all of those arrested were Hispanic-surnamed Latinos.

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lets hack German Telekom
by Christian.K＠t-online.de 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello guys, i am from Germany and i want to ask you, if you know something about the password-encryption of the T-Online Decoder from German Telekom! I tried to crack it, but it is not easy! The password is hidden in a file called DBSERVER.INI. If someone know how to crack it or has any programms please let me know! -------------------------------------------------------------------- written by Atomic (christian.k(a)t-online.de) ;-) But remember! A Homepage will soon be variable, too. :-o --------------------------------------------------------------------

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