December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

hacktic.nl is down!!
by Jim Byrd 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I just heard on IRC channel #scientology from Karen Spaink that hacktic.nl will be down as of 5/20 because of pressure from Scientology. I don't have any more details yet.

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Re: remailer-in-a-box
by loki＠infonex.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 3:51 PM 5/7/96, anonymous-remailer(a)shell.portal.com wrote: >No one answered me. >What's the best remailer-in-a-box. >I'd like to run one. I would think people would be falling >over eachother to tell me. The reason for the quiet may be twofold. First, I and many others delete unread list messages with out subjects. Second, remailer-in-a-box does not really exist. Mixmaster, and most of the other remailers are fairly easy to set up for anyone with UNIX experience. I run Mixmaster + Ghio + reorder scripts. -Lance ---------------------------------------------------------- Lance Cottrell loki(a)obscura.com PGP 2.6 key available by finger or server. Mixmaster, the next generation remailer, is now available! http://www.obscura.com/~loki/Welcome.html or FTP to obscura.com "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come." --Nietzsche ----------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Why does the state still stand:
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:59 PM 5/15/96 +0200, bryce(a)digicash.com wrote: >Excuse me? Here James, have a penny. > >- -----BEGIN ECASH PAYMENT----- > >oLmQgwABTaGgiqCukIFPkIECkIEBkIEEkIEBkYQxmiZEkIQxrJtEkIFPkoFAlJR9 >yFLULqd42MJyDwR0ruJbWY5+uZSUo+mMUWbmdjpzJNZ9FGwRyEPh9iqQgRCSlEhl >cmUgaXMgbXkgb25lIGNlbnQukoCUgJCBApGEAAAAAJCBAKGguKCrkIIBwJPgI5bU >zb3E4EjtpuGYz+mutWIDdy7q8vMW9FtgCDNAsaakvTK1vyHv+qeVyu9im5u7eRoA >ElARFDxpszgN6MV0jpYebNwHuCLHZgCmRVd9uKvV5RQgDHrgzrfpZqzeP+WWk+AI >FXnhJgU1PoFlndx3LwCbM9D6c4afILXuqSSsz2viGDR0mT1VRaqaZTrTtdkWKkTq >xh1vqh190ajm10SPQMMvujBMzDGiqZocPDKneSMKVww3Nuw74vXH+Z8yKCcgW5GQ >gQGhoaE= >- -----END ECASH PAYMENT----- > > >That took me all of about 5 seconds. If you had Mark Twain >ecash it would take you less time to accept that penny that it >takes you to read "----BEGIN ECASH PAYMENT-----" with your slow >human eyes. But what I'm looking for is full payee/payor anonymity. (three guesses as to why...) Can you do this? If not, why not? Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: Fingerprinting annoyance
by Matthew Williams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Date sent: Mon, 13 May 1996 23:19:12 -0400 (EDT) > From: Black Unicorn <unicorn(a)schloss.li> <...> > > I compare it to the ease with which one submits a fake social security > number rather than simply refuse to submit one at all. A fake one wont > raise any eyebrows, refusal will. Although knowingly providing a fake social security number when one has any expectation of gain is, I believe, a felony. 42 USC. sec. 408. Matt +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ Matthew Williams williams(a)mackinfo.com 215-884-8123 voice 215-886-5030 fax "The most obscene thing I have found on the Internet is the CDA." +--------------------------------------------------------------------+

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FAC_ial
by jya＠nyc.pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

5-14-96. FiTi: Reports on "Photobook," a "visual intelligence" comp.sys for facial recognition designed by Alex Pentland at MIT's Media Lab to "identify people who use multiple identifications to commit fraud." BT, the US Army, Kodak and Sensormatic are nibbling and the White House is ogling it to "combat terrorism." Also: The program could help find missing children, verify indentification for electronic purchases and track down on-line pornographers. Although the Big Brother aspect may be troubling to some, to others it will provide comforting security. FAC_ial

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Traffic analysis by FBI against Earth First
by Eric Hughes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Remember the phrase "social networks analysis". The FBI seems to use it as a term of art. I'm right now listening to Judy Bari on the pirate radio station in Berkeley (104.1 FM). She's being interviewed over the telephone and talking about her court case against the FBI relating to the coverup of the bombing that she's being charged for. (It was under her own car seat, for those of you who know nothing about this.) In any case, there have been depositions and discoveries in this case, and one of the revelations was that there was a document the FBI seized (under circumstances I'm not familiar with) with which they wanted to perform a social networks analysis upon. It was the interviewer's phone and addess book. Eric

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Re: Civil liberties of employees (Re: FYB_oss)
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 7:29 AM 5/14/96, E. ALLEN SMITH wrote: >From: IN%"froomkin(a)law.miami.edu" "Michael Froomkin" 14-MAY-1996 03:24:06.58 >>Yes and no...and kinda no. > > Umm... you would appear to be discussing the current legal situation, >whereas TCMay was discussing what the situation _should_ be. In the limits >you discuss, the civil liberties of the _employer_ are being seriously >trampled upon. Exactly. As I described in another post last night, this is the point. I've mostly given up on trying to change the existing laws and political system...it is too far down the path de Tocqueville described a century and a half ago (roughly, "America's great experiment with democracy will last only until the populace discovers it can pick the pockets of others at the ballot box."). Strong cryptography at least returns "freedom of association" to us, albeit not with True Names, and may return other freedoms to us as well. By bypassing democracy, the true enemy of liberty. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: (legal) Re: CDA Dispatch #10: Last Day in Court
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 2:30 PM 5/14/96, Joseph M. Reagle Jr. wrote: > Perhaps someone with a better legal understanding of court cases >could help me out. I understood from a law course I took that appeals could >only be filed with respect to process rather than result. One cannot appeal >a decision, rather one has to appeal the manner in which it was reached (if >witnesses were biased, important evidence was suppressed, etc.) I was rather >surprised by this, but obviously this doesn't prevent people from appealing >willy-nilly because they just fabricate some reason why the process was >corrupted. > > However, in a venue such as this, what basis can one appeal on? On >the ACLU side I can actually see an appeal with respect to the >constitutionality (but I'm not quite sure what) and on the Reno side I don't >see what they could appeal. Was some evidence poorly presented? It isn't >like there are any witnesses to lead. IANALBIGCTV (I am not a lawyer but I get Court TV), but _Constitutional_ issues are always available for appeal (though of course not always accepted for appeal). For instance, if the lowest level of the court system tells a newspaper it may not publish a story, this is automatically appealable to the next level up, even if all sides agree the first trial was a model of proper trial procedure. To a large extent, this is what the Appeals process, including the Supreme Court, is all about. The Supreme Court does more than just clean up sloppy mistakes made by lower courts, it establishes the "basic interpretation" of the Constitution and legislation. In this case, it is the basic constitutionality of the Communications Decency Act itself that is at issue, not the specific application of it to a specific case (and even then, it could be challenged on constitutional issues...in this case, it is going directly through the process to the Supreme Court for review). (Another way this case is not like a simple court case is that the government side gets to appeal a loss; in a conventional criminal trial, a la OJ, the government does not get to appeal a loss. I'm sure the lawyers and law professors out there can say more about the distinction, about when and under what circumstances the prosecution side gets "another bite of the apple," and about what the terms of appeals may be.) --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Civil liberties of employees (Re: FYB_oss)
by Bovine Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[Wildly off-topic...] Michael Froomkin wrote: ... >...And there's a lot more >than skimpy outfits at issue, including a refusal to hire men for what are >allegedly food service jobs (gender may only be a determination of >employment if it is a bona fide occupational qualfiication, e.g. policing >the showers in the gym; gender is not a BFOQ for food service jobs.) Being a "Hooters Girl" is not a typical "allegedly food service" job. [Because it's an election-year] the EEOC dropped the case, but not before Tom Hazlett did an *excellent* piece on it in REASON. _Corporate Rakeovers_, Feb. 1996 p. 66

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Re: PRZ /PGP
by jamesd＠echeque.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:57 PM 5/13/96 -0700, Vladimir Z. Nuri wrote: [Stupid trolling on reagan and the cold war deleted] > > it may also be that Zimmermann has a set of beliefs that he > champions in front of the public, but that his private ideology > is more radical. Zimmermann is in favor of liberty. Some of his ideas about how people can and should deal with each other to avoid violating each others rights are badly mistaken, but one of his ideas about liberty is spot on. [lots more trolling deleted] > 4. PRZ has a bad track record as far as meeting deadlines. No software project has ever come in on schedule or within budget. Yours will not be the first. [Even more moronic trolling deleted] --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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