December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Message pools _are_ in use today!
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 7:27 PM 7/3/96, Andrew Loewenstern wrote: >Deranged Mutant writes: >> Uploading can be gotten around by using anonymous remailers >> and mail-to-news gateways... although someone can tell if you >> send mail to anonymous mailers. > >Not if you run your own remailer! Agreed. And if a remailer chain is long enough, the "someone can tell if you send mail to anonymous mailers" is meaningless. (In an ideally crypto-anarchic world, millions of messages are being sent to anonymous remailers, and it is worth nothing to know that Subject A sent a message to an anonymous remailer.) --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: What remains to be done.
by attila 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Addressed to: Black Unicorn <unicorn(a)schloss.li> Cypherpunks <cypherpunks(a)toad.com> ** Reply to note from Black Unicorn <unicorn(a)schloss.li> 07/03/96 10:17pm -0400 good "white paper." modularity is the key. use of standardized encryption libraries permitting user selection of one or more formats. message pools would be great from satellite channels --how do you regulate (read this as "pay for") since someone must receive the messages to uplink? -otherwise you have the dropouts of USENET. user interface is the achilles heel for most programmers --the time is spent making the code 'work.' with the tools available which allow multi- platform development, the *functional* GUI should be done by someone who creates "artitstic" interfaces. I agree-- if encryption can be made so simple, and with a clean user interface, it will be used by joe sixpack (who rarely likes uncle, anyway --but for different reasons). once joe sixpack starts to use (probably dropping his private keys...), then it is too pervasive to stop --even if there are a few high level prosecutions. one of our greatest failings v/v encryption as a group (including coderpunks) is we are satisfied with our access to encrytion. PGP is a nusiance, and the instructions are not clear --so we experiment until we get the results: on the command line. our satisfaction makes us insular; we need to think in global terms --mass marketing of a free product which will hold appeal for everyone. encryption is no different than the students in China --no, they do have it, but how long can Father Deng (and his successors) hang on against technology and quest for knowledge? -- Fuck off, Uncle Sam. Cyberspace is where democracy lives!

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Re: Wanted: NNTP posting access for remailers
by loki＠infonex.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I would be willing to give you permission to use news.infonex.net. I will set it up for you tomorrow. -Lance At 5:46 PM 7/3/96, lcs Remailer Administrator wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Would anyone out there be willing to give NNTP posting or transfer >privileges to anon.lcs.mit.edu? > >Because of recent spams through mail2news(a)anon.lcs.mit.edu, I may >loose my news posting privileges to the news server I have been using. >Though I try to resolve all complaints I receive, other complaints >have been sent to other postmasters in the domain, who don't seem to >want to hear about these problems. > >If you run a news server and would like to help people posting >anonymous messages, please consider allowing posts from >mail2news(a)anon.lcs.mit.edu. Ideally you would also be in a position >to receive mail at some of the relevant postmaster aliases in your >domain, and would not mind forwarding misdirected complaints to me so >that I can deal with them. Alternatively, if you are willing to give >me "IHAVE" priviliges, I can possibly set things up with an initial >"Path:" header that guarantees most complaints will go directly to me. > >Thanks, >- -mix-admin(a)anon.lcs.mit.edu > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: 2.6.2 >Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface > >iQCVAwUBMdsT70TBtHVi58fRAQHQ0QP/U3Jn7sL9+k3aUr+qw4WdDxef/lIeu3xO >BwdO8zlNPavJgbxuunR81n011jGy80l7qnc+DpvtuEEQqszLMcMO/4zHw/VfVOY8 >08nxE8+IkF/FE66vJdnU7O3I1mIjtbF8ixcm9FOwqoehSLJB40tXy6wu6KV663TQ >fmy/Gz5XDe8= >=Gp4D >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---------------------------------------------------------- Lance Cottrell loki(a)obscura.com PGP 2.6 key available by finger or server. Mixmaster, the next generation remailer, is now available! http://www.obscura.com/~loki/Welcome.html or FTP to obscura.com "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come." --Nietzsche ----------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Message pools _are_ in use today!
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:25 PM 7/3/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: >Someone mentioned the Ku-band dishes that are used by PageSat (or whatever >it is now called....). My DSS system, which is technically a Ku-band >receiver, has a digital i/o connector of some sort on the back, and it is >rumored that this will someday be available for PageSat-like uses. (I have >a feeling this may be years off, for admin reasons if not technical >reasons.) As I understand it, the DSS broadcast (unlike older C-band units) consists of a single digital stream which contains the highly compressed (MPEG?) data representing all channels. Being compressed, the data rate needed per channel varies with the scene and the rate it changes. Even if you add up a large number of these statistically-varying channels, you'll still get a fairly wide variation in the needed bit rate per second. The system must have a substantial amount of headroom to protect against occasional times when many channels need a lot of bits, headroom that is mostly not being used, most of the time. If this is correct, then most of this headroom should be available to piggybacked data traffic on a "space-available" basis. Probably tens of megabits per second. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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PGP
by kyleb＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello, Does anyone have the latest version of PGP for Windows and/or DOS If so please reply directly, since I am not yet on C'Punks. Thanks, KyleB(a)juno.com

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Word lists for passphrases
by gregmi＠galileo.mis.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Are there any publically available word lists which contain just about every word in the English language? It's not absolutley necessary, but I'd also like the list to include english names. Thanks in advance. begin 644 tagline.txt enum MicrosoftBoolean {TRUE, FALSE, MAYBE}; Greg Miller: Programmer/Analyst (gregmi(a)mis.net) http://grendel.ius.indiana.edu/~gmiller/ end.

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Re: The Net and Terrorism
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 3 Jul 96 at 14:48, jim bell wrote: [..] > But as I've pointed out elsewhere, there's a big difference between "We're > gonna do this!" and "Someday we may have to do this." My impression is > that the government has tried to completely erase the dividing line > between these two concepts. As far as the government is concerned, "gonna do this" and "may have to do this" is the same, since the "this" is illegal. There is no dividing line. I suspect that since they (alegedly) had specific targets planned it leaned closer to the "gonna do this". From the minimal discussion in the media I have read, it appeared to be another 'revenge for waco and ruby ridge' action rather than a 'defense of civil liberties from a potential totalitarian government' action. (I'm rather skeptical as to how blowing up a specific IRS office would be effective were the government to change into a totalitarian regime.) Rob. --- No-frills sig. Befriend my mail filter by sending a message with the subject "send help" Key-ID: 5D3F2E99 1996/04/22 wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com (root@magneto) AB1F4831 1993/05/10 Deranged Mutant <wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com> Send a message with the subject "send pgp-key" for a copy of my key.

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Lack of PGP sigs
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Another minor problem is when PGP-sigs are made using something other than MD5 as a hash algorithm, at least until certain modifications of PGP become 'standardized' until PGPlib is released. Rob. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3b Charset: cp850 Comment: SHA1 is used instead of MD5 for this signature iQEVAwUBMdvzjwTNlSxdPy6ZAQIbRwf8DFyAdkQemj6z8nGb8MAkg9Hi0t9AZgpT /7IaNy7x7+P1ahY5TRm0gZRaRr3A3scz4jCCP2IUbKnP/3SnVsvWH/GuH2EnGzQQ UhZODymDzaeWVhoQH0GNhDsAf3yLVyr6CQPWsP0aMDD4HBCFKDjr5ip9XsZRYCo1 P+7GbT+/oIRtztEFufguecIalfh275rT/FyDioblKxgyK+AX8hQ+3POzJgayPbc8 7AosgiFv9UGD4O4ComQyurZi/eFdn/x6NqrVKUVRK0KOWDVEYqAhDz45oP94//NQ ahE8viIm6irCu6PS+yf62RZvZafXLccHCBG2rUOm6gYEsB3XtuM/Vg== =SQBi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- No-frills sig. Befriend my mail filter by sending a message with the subject "send help" Key-ID: 5D3F2E99 1996/04/22 wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com (root@magneto) AB1F4831 1993/05/10 Deranged Mutant <wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com> Send a message with the subject "send pgp-key" for a copy of my key.

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Re: What remains to be done.
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Another need is for file/disk-encryption utilities. I'm not familiar with what's out there for Macs, but for PCs there's SFS and ASPICRYP for SCSI drives (with no source!) and SFS, SecureDrive and SecureDevice for HD (or FD). The latter won't work on Win95. AFAIK, SFS and SecureDrive aren't 100% friendly with Win95 either, though they'll work. There's a need for something that will work under Win95, WinNT, and/or OS/2 for encrypting partitions. Aside from a few commercial or shareware apps which use some variant of DES, there's little out there. (One problem is that DD kits for Win95/NT and OS/2 cost $$$.) Rob. --- No-frills sig. Befriend my mail filter by sending a message with the subject "send help" Key-ID: 5D3F2E99 1996/04/22 wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com (root@magneto) AB1F4831 1993/05/10 Deranged Mutant <wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com> Send a message with the subject "send pgp-key" for a copy of my key.

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Re: Net and Terrorism.
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 5:58 AM 7/4/96, attila wrote: > U.S. cash has eliminated a lot of Soviet weapons, including, I >believe > some chemical. however, keep in mind: the obsolete, and expensive to > maintain, hardware predominated. However, you will never be able to >buy out > the religious terrorists --they are on a "mission." > > The Western world faces far more threat from fundamentalist religious > terrorists than it does from the Soviet Union, etc. > > There is no cure for the "revolutionary" terrorists --just death >for their > own brand of glory. If we do not even print their obit, there is no glory! I recall that Attila is one of several Mormons on the list, from a recent thread where I happened to mention Mormons as an example (and got comments, including a statement that "Mormon" is a slur). Anyway, I should point out that Mormons (or Latter Day Saints, I guess) are spreading quickly around the world...all WITHOUT using "conversion by the sword," as some other well-known religions are wont to do. Islam, notably, was known for this policy of conversion by the sword: entire national populations were given the choice of converting to Islam or being put to the sword. Most converted, naturally enough. (cf. various histories, incl. Wright's "Sacred Rage.") Islam is one of the religions teaching that "martyrs" go directly to Paradise/Heaven/Valhalla. A terrorist who explodes himself goes directly to sit at Allah's dinner table. His relatives, too, as I understand their beliefs, though the surviving relatives have to wait until they die to get this benefit. Further, if a large Middle Eastern city, e.g., Tel Aviv or Haifa, were to be nuked by Believers, then all of the vaporized Muslims in the city would automatically be martyred, and would also go to Paradise. This makes it more "acceptable" to Believers to hit targets which may contain their own kind. (The famous "Kill them all and let God sort them out" line really does apply to many Muslims.) (Two other religions come to mind as having similar beliefs about death in battle and afterlives: the Viking "berserkers" circa 800-1100 A.D. and the Japanese/Shinto suicide pilots in WW2. I'm sure there are other examples.) Most other religions which have strong beliefs about an afterlife, including Mormons, Catholics, and other flavors of Christianity, nevertheless have not adopted this "martyr" concept. This may explain why few suicide bombings and suchlike come from these groups. (There are exceptions. Many Christian sects believe that abortion is immoral and a grave sin, and that those who bomb or shoot up abortion clinics, a la John Salvi, are doing God's work and are ensured a place in Heaven. Personally, I expect to see more such "terrorist" acts in the coming decades, in the U.S.) Calling a spade a spade, Islam is in some sense a "terrorist religion," in that physical force is seen by many Muslims as a legitimate mechanism of conversion. The wrinkle that those who die in the service of Allah go directly to sit at his side is of course a major incentivizing factor for more truck bombs, nerve gas attacks, and even nukings. We should all be thankful that Mormons, as economically powerful and as well-organized as they are, steer far clear of this kind of recruiting and service to their beliefs. (It's been 30 years since I've been in Salt Lake City, but I understand that strip clubs exist there--from reading certain news groups!--and that alcohol is not illegal there. This government tolerance of things inimical to the dominant religion would be unthinkable in, say, Mecca.) There are of course other flavors of Islam, including arts-loving, peace-loving, and scholarly sorts. The propagation of science and math through the Dark Ages owes much to Arabic scholars, of course. Hence, we cannot blanketly condemn Islam. However, for the sake of the discussion about terrorism, it's important to recognize that some significant fraction of Muslims believe these notions of martrydom and are willing to engage in horrific acts to accomplish certain ends. (The Arab world is very poorly connected to the Net at this time. It'll be interesting to see what happens if and when they become well-connected, with PGP, remailers, information markets, etc.) --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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