December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: nCognito is Dead.. (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, You can add SSZ (ssz.com) to the list. We accept anonymous accounts at standard rates ($10/mo. for 12 mo.). This includes a web-page. Contact 'staff(a)ssz.com' for further information. We are currently supporting the Austin Cypherpunks Anonymous Remailer project. If you would like more information please contact: austin-cpunks(a)ssz.com Jim Choate "Reality is observer dependant" \ \ \\///// | | (.) (.) ===========================oOO==(_)==OOo========================== Tivoli an IBM company CyberTects: SSZ Customer Support Engineer SOHO Consulting/VR/Robotics 9442 Capitol of Texas Highway North 1647 Rutland Suite 500 #244 Austin, TX 78759 Austin, TX 78758 Email: jchoate(a)tivoli.com Email: ravage(a)ssz.com Phone: (512) 436-8893 Phone: (512) 259-2994 Fax: (512) 345-2784 Fax: n/a WWW: www.tivoli.com WWW: www.ssz.com Modem: n/a Modem: (512) 836-7374 Pager: n/a Pager: n/a Cellular: n/a Cellular: n/a =================================================================== Forwarded message: > From cypherpunks-errors(a)toad.com Mon May 27 00:10:29 1996 > Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 21:58:08 -0700 (PDT) > From: Rich Graves <llurch(a)networking.stanford.edu> > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: Re: nCognito is Dead.. > In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.93.960526182121.413B-100000@gak> > Message-ID: <Pine.GUL.3.93.960526215524.10152G-100000(a)Networking.Stanford.EDU> > X-PGP-key: finger llurch(a)mordor.stanford.edu > X-URL: http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~llurch/ > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Precedence: bulk > > To the honor list of ISPs accepting of free/anonymous speech, add: > > dhp.com > shellback.com > l0pht.com (not exactly an ISP, though...) > > I'm maintaining a list of sorts at > http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~llurch/potw2/ >

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Re: Quickremail v1.0b
by loki＠infonex.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Which remailers does it install? -Lance At 6:49 PM 5/26/96, Mark M. wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >I have just released Quickremail, a UNIX program that provides an easy >interface to install an anonymous remailer. Just unzip and untar in your >home directory, execute remailer-install.sh, and then you will have a fully >functional remailer. You do not need root access to install it. It is >available at http://www.voicenet.com/~markm/quickremail.1.0.b.tar.gz . > >- -- Mark > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >markm(a)voicenet.com | finger -l for PGP key 0xe3bf2169 >http://www.voicenet.com/~markm/ | d61734f2800486ae6f79bfeb70f95348 >((2b) || !(2b)) | Old key now used only for signatures >"The concept of normalcy is just a conspiracy of the majority" -me > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: 2.6.3 >Charset: noconv > >iQCVAwUBMakKLLZc+sv5siulAQFRggP8CUjAKn6WKL73PuPbG+h1DsZKj+K5v0iG >3a01RPmQca3VWa8jeFsX6OfUH6XrI4L+GN8o2W+6nzULur36Fyxovj9NN0A8sGBu >Ww1v0wu6MTA/r6HXiaGmPdSCZ5BeUF7TqPI2C9mgsAqlTinffR85aGpjYaev2Ffq >MumHbq1wH7g= >=4PPV >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---------------------------------------------------------- Lance Cottrell loki(a)obscura.com PGP 2.6 key available by finger or server. Mixmaster, the next generation remailer, is now available! http://www.obscura.com/~loki/Welcome.html or FTP to obscura.com "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come." --Nietzsche ----------------------------------------------------------

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Re: An alternative to remailer shutdowns
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:10 AM 5/25/96 EDT, E. ALLEN SMITH wrote: >From: IN%"unicorn(a)schloss.li" "Black Unicorn" 24-MAY-1996 22:52:03.64 > >>Remailers on the attack points (first in chain, last in chain) simply MUST >>be disposable as tissue. They must be run as anonymously as possible, >>with as little connection to the ISP's assets as possible and immediately >>disposable. They must be easy to set up, runable without root and there >>must be a much more efficent tracking mechanism. (Mr. Levin has done a >>terrific job, but even more needs to be done). > > Why the first in chain? If the anti-traffic-analysis provisions are >working properly, it should be impossible to prove that a given first remailer >was the first remailer for any particular message. I had thought that even >civil courts required that you be the person who committed some act, not the >person who _might_ have committed some act. Otherwise, all the remailers are >in danger. This is even if someone tries an entrapment by sending through some >illegal material - if the courts accept that they should be allowed to do this, >then all the remailers they chained are going to be hit. Likewise, I don't see why the first address in the chain is vulnerable, as long as the message subsequently passes through at least one trustworthy remailer, and probably a temporary output address. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: Mixmaster version usable with POP?
by loki＠infonex.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 9:44 PM 5/26/96, E. ALLEN SMITH wrote: >From: IN%"markm(a)voicenet.com" "Mark M." 26-MAY-1996 18:46:13.23 > >>On Linux this works: >>popclient -3 -c POPHOSTNAME | formail -s mixmaster -R >> $MAIL > >>It will work on any system that has formail and popclient on it. > > Is this only for getting mail, or also for sending it? Sorry, I'm >not very familiar with UNIX, especially the pipe commands. > -Allen That would be just for receiving it. It is fine to use sendmail for sending email over a dialup connection. It is just not very good for receiving it. -Lance ---------------------------------------------------------- Lance Cottrell loki(a)obscura.com PGP 2.6 key available by finger or server. Mixmaster, the next generation remailer, is now available! http://www.obscura.com/~loki/Welcome.html or FTP to obscura.com "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come." --Nietzsche ----------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [SCARE]: "If you only knew what we know..."
by Jean-Francois Avon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 27 May 96 at 0:22, Subir Grewal wrote: > Real world anonymity is difficult to buy, and actions such as murder > (or what you'd like to call "self-defense") take place in the real > world. But that is the principle by which AP operates. That *is* the whole point that seems to miss you: encryption technologies makes that perfectly feasible. I agree that it is a novelty in the history of humankind... > I'd expect a realization of AP to promote a great backlash from a > variety of quarters. Such methods, besides being unethical, are > probably going to be used as fodder to infringe the liberties of > others. During the transition period, definitely. >In other words, a witch-hunt will result, AP advocates > marginalized (if they are discovered). My original reservations, on > the grounds of unjust means still stand, maybe we can return to this > discussion sometime later. Why, is it becoming too hot? Are you tempted to send the cops at Jim Bell's place? > "Religious" fanatics have great appeal, I don't think even AP will > make them "go away", the odds are they'll become martyrs. And we > know where that takes us. Against *whom* will they retaliate? And more down to earth, I bet that in the advent of AP becoming operationnal, their leaders will go down even faster than our own. > I wasn't talking about the legal system in an AP world, but the idea > that AP is justice in some sense. "In a competition between a pickpocket and a murderer, hte murderer always win" -Ayn Rand > Incidentally, a purely civil law > court is what I'd like as well, and competing courts and arbitration > systems sound good to me. Since you said yourself that the actual govt will *never* relinquish power, I find that statement a bit of a contradiction. JFA PLEASE NOTE: THIS POST DOES NOT MEAN THAT I ENDORSE MR. BELL'S SYSTEM. MY RATIONNAL CONCLUSIONS ABOUT IT'S INTERNAL MECHANICS AND IT'S INTRINSIC LOGICS DOES NOT MEAN THAT I LIKE NOR ENDORSE THE SYSTEM. I SIMPLY CONCLUDED THAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PREVENT THE SYSTEM FROM BEING IMPLEMENTED. IMO, IT IS UNAVOIDABLE. DePompadour, Societe d'Importation Ltee Limoges porcelain, Silverware and mouth blown crystal glasses JFA Technologies, R&D consultants. Physists, technologists and engineers. PGP keys at: http://w3.citenet.net/users/jf_avon ID# C58ADD0D : 529645E8205A8A5E F87CC86FAEFEF891

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Re: [SCARE]: "If you only knew what we know..."
by Jean-Francois Avon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 26 May 96 at 21:39, Subir Grewal wrote: > Of course there are those who > fervently believe in the socialist ideal But, my dear, even in the most libertarian or AP-ruled world, they would absolutely free to give away *all* of their salary for the causes they consider valid. Only, thoses who don't agree with them would not be coerced into thoses noble causes. > and would probably feel > justified in killing the do nothing libertarians This paragraph seems to indicate that the only difference between libertarians and socialist is a mere difference of opinion and that everybody is justified to act on their beliefs. But the socialists who pretend that are simply blanking out the fact that *they too* recognize that Reality Is since they want to use force to get a lunch out of the mouth of somebody who have one (and who happened to produce it himself) to put it in the mouth of another who didn't have. Therefore, it is OK to deny reality when somebody come up with arguements against socialism, but it is darn convenient to use it (in the form of a loaded gun...) > (as opposed to > old-style liberals, i.e. minimalists) who ostensibly form the state. BTW, they do not "ostensibly" form the state. They simply *do*not*coerce* individuals into being sacrificial animals for the unearned benefits of others... > For them, inaction might be sufficient cause to initiate an AP > campaign. Oh, you mean, "for them, anybody who pass a judgment of his own that contradict them should be killed" I see... > I'd prefer a system that doesn't "target" people at all. I'd prefer a pink elephant with wings. Do you think that govt does not target peoples? > One of the fundamental principles of justice is that it be > comensurate (in some sense) to the crime, AP lacks that aspect. > "Final solutions" are all it has, but final solutions aren't always > desireable. JB seem to agree with the view that turning our most productive individuals into sacrificial animals for the benefit of the less productive is not exactly a kind thing to do. I tend to agree. To say "commensurate" means that you must quantify various things in their proper context. I invite you to do so. > The question is not one of becoming a dictator, but rather one of > what values will be protected, what freedoms will people have in the > world/state you imagine. I think the values AP engenders are not > the ones we want. We probably don't want to legitimize murder. It does not legitimates murder per se. I don't think that JB ever said that murder was legitimate. He only explained that the technology makes it inevitable to happens and that he believes that the outcome will be a better society. You will note that to the act of murdering, he opposed many other actions, including many that leads to direct loss of lives. He claims that the positives will outnumber the negatives. As to the morality, by your own standards, of starting a "Vietnam" war, I suppose it is highly questionnable, or so you seems to indicate. > It's difficult to operate in a vacuum of principles/values, we can't > simply say, "well whatever people will want to happen will happen > and why not give them that choice". Jim Bell does not believe that AP will evolve in a moral vacuum. On the contrary (and most collectivists think he is wrong), I think he believes that human beings have an intrinsic sense of justice and that this will prevail. > Marx was not the first to poitn > out that institutions influence our actions, that we are products of > our times, that the choices we face are as much determined by our > own preferences as they are by the world around us. Well, of course, our perception of reality is context dependent. But you seems to attempt to hint that truth is relative because knowledge is contextual. It looks like an attempt on reason. > :and who would want to take any politician's > :place? > Only the fanatic I think that by the nature of AP, this would be ruled out. Maybe there would be a fanatic president, but he would preside nothing because nobody would be there to enforce his fanatic views. > As I've said, the minimalist state is desireable in my opinion. The > most efficient system of taxation is the truly flat tax (i.e. a > fixed amount for each individual), since each person derives aprox. > equivalent benefits from the minimalist state, their contributions > are also equal. Each of us derives some benefits from the existence > of the state, some of these benefits are non-exclusionary. Till > these benefits are dependent on territory and jurisdiction taxation > of those who reside within the jurisdiction/territory will have to > be enforced. That is absolute BS. It might have been true before, but with the advent of the net and of computers and smart cards, it is becoming a fallacy. If Visa or Mastercard can operate on a voluntary basis, the govt could also do it. The technology makes it possible that any individual who wish to subscribe to any of the various insurances the govt could offer might do so. Including contributions to finance museums, research projects, etc. And mandatory taxes could be enforced in period of emergencies like wars, if ever they happens. The population seems to have a very short memory: Before the great wars, there was *no* income tax. It is mainly with the advent of socialism, coinciding with the nuclear era, that the taxes were hiked to the level they are now. Johnson blew up whatever Eisehower tried to do. Of course, it started before them but Eisehower tried to get back to the old system. I guess what defeated him what that too many poeples longed for a free lunch... Anyhow, we have the technology to institutes a card that would give access to most services like health care, unemployement insurance, etc. Why don't they put it in place? [Cypherpunkishstuff] Hey guys, could you believe it? I actually closed a post with some tiny relevance to CP! Gee, my brain must have skipped a few cpu cycles! JFA I am not subscribing to CP. For me to read you, you must cc to me directly. DePompadour, Societe d'Importation Ltee; Limoges porcelain, silverware and crystal JFA Technologies, R&D consultants: physicists, technologists and engineers. PGP keys at: http://w3.citenet.net/users/jf_avon ID# C58ADD0D : 529645E8205A8A5E F87CC86FAEFEF891 I reserve the right to post publicly any private e-mail sent to me. Unsollicited commercial e-mail will be proofread at US165 $/h Any sender of such material will be considered as to have ac- cepted the above mentionned terms.

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Sun pushing SKIP for intranets and java
by Frank Stuart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sun is pushing SKIP for intranets and encrypting/verifying java applets. Bay Networks, BBN, Premenos Technology, Milkyway Networks, and VPNet have signed on. See http://www.cnet.com/ for more info. I took a quick look at Sun's site and didn't see anything. | (Douglas) Hofstadter's Law: | It always takes longer than you expect, even Frank Stuart | when you take into account Hofstadter's Law.

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Updated type2.list/pubring.mix
by John A. Perry 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Everyone, I just updated the type2.list/pubring.mix combination on jpunix.com to reflect the opening of the czarevna type-II remailer. The lists are available by anonymous FTP from ftp.jpunix.com as well as by Web from www.jpunix.com John Perry - KG5RG - perry(a)alpha.jpunix.com - PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! WWW - http://www.jpunix.com PGP 2.62 key for perry(a)jpunix.com is on the keyservers. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMamUHlOTpEThrthvAQHGFAP+IAE4NCXH20XuhpYoEZHJYMP4oAkiFxl7 TwkNWcbCC+GJVddjQVoORvLtNNwgeA6RxkJR+sAnwB3NbtynBi1NVymKEUj6FO4W 4Q5i/0BaRbYpMdqpgmYwCbvrFtG3IJh715o9oGG9ylP3f89vDMN9CBw0iSMhJDva DeIyKxaFseA= =RK3J -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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ACLU: Secret Intelligence Budget
by Bob Witanek 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Posted: sspnj(a)exit109.com ACLU News 05-23-96: *House Votes to Keep Intelligence Budget Secret* In a blow to open government, the House of Representatives has rejected a move by the Clinton Administration to -- for the first time -- make public the overall national intelligence budget, The Washington Post reported today. The rejection came on a vote of 248 to 176 on an amendment to a bill that would fund the CIA and 11 other, mostly Pentagon-based, intelligence agencies. The ACLU had supported the amendment, saying that "taxpayers have a right to know what their tax dollars support." But the Post said that House Intelligence Chairman Larry Combest, R-TX, opposed disclosure in committee and led the opposition on the floor yesterday. He said making the overall figure public inevitably would lead to disclosure of individual intelligence accounts, which, he said, could harm clandestine sources and methods. ACLU Legislative Counsel Gregory T. Nojeim disagreed. "Disclosure of the bottom-line figure is the absolute minimum that Congress should do to make the intelligence agencies accountable to the American public," he said. "All of these intelligence agencies have acknowledged that any Cold War justification for keeping the total budget secret has passed." -------------------------------------- -------------------------- *State Police Search Blacks More Than Whites* PERRYVILLE, Md. -- Black drivers are being stopped and searched for drugs at least four times more often than whites by a special Maryland state police squad that patrols stretches of Interstate 95, the East Coast's main north-south artery, the Associated Press reports today. This finding from an Associated Press computer analysis of car searches raises questions of whether troopers are following their own written training procedures and complying with a court ruling that specifically bars them from using racial profiles to determine likely drug couriers. More than 75 percent of all drivers whose cars were searched by the special drug squad through the first nine months of last year were black, the AP said. State police steadfastly denied using racial profiles, which in the past typically targeted young minority men driving late-model cars and carrying pagers or wearing gold jewelry. The Maryland police maintained that black motorists were searched for reasons other than race and that the preponderance of blacks searched amounted to coincidence. Maryland state police are forbidden to use racial profiles in traffic stops under terms of a legal settlement reached in 1994 with Robert Wilkins, a black Washington lawyer searched for drugs as he drove home from a funeral in 1992. The settlement also requires troopers to provide records on all 1995-97 highway searches to the American Civil Liberties Union of Maryland. The AP examined the records for January through September 1995. The AP said that it asked the ACLU for the early reports after a Philadelphia couple filed a discrimination suit in January against three troopers. Charles Carter, now 66, and his wife, Etta, 65, were driving north on I-95 in a rented minivan on July 12, 1994, their 40th wedding anniversary, when troopers pulled them over and searched the van for drugs. The couple claim they were searched because they are black. ``This entire incident was and continues to be deeply humiliating for my wife and myself,'' Carter said in an affidavit. ``It is inconceivable to us that, as American citizens of the late twentieth century, we would be treated in this manner by officers of the law.'' The ACLU said the data may eventually prove a pattern of discrimination. If the organization can show in court that blacks are being searched in inappropriately high numbers, it may consider a class-action lawsuit, said Debbie Jeon, an ACLU attorney. ---------------------------------------------------------------- ONLINE RESOURCES FROM THE ACLU NATIONAL OFFICE ---------------------------------------------------------------- ACLU Freedom Network Web Page: http://www.aclu.org. America Online users should check out our live chats, auditorium events, *very* active message boards, and complete news on civil liberties, at keyword ACLU. ---------------------------------------------------------------- ACLU Newsfeed American Civil Liberties Union National Office 132 West 43rd Street New York, New York 10036 To subscribe to the ACLU Newsfeed, send a message to majordomo(a)aclu.org with "subscribe News" in the body of the message. To terminate your subscription, send a message to majordomo(a)aclu.org with "unsubscribe News" in the body of the message. For general information about the ACLU, write to info(a)aclu.org. - ---------------------------------------------------------------This message was sent to the news

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Throwing away the whole bushell because one apple is rotten...
by Jean-Francois Avon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 27 May 96 at 12:07, Subir Grewal wrote: > You might want to read up on what > classical liberalism is andd what a minimalist state implies before > you spout Rand. The fact that I quote Rand occasionnally does not mean that I endorse everything she said. The word "spout" seems to be derogatory here and I see nothing that guarantee it. Some of her ideas did not pass the test of reality, and some other did. But the fact that some did not does not invalidate the other that did. :) JFA DePompadour, Societe d'Importation Ltee; Limoges porcelain, silverware and crystal JFA Technologies, R&D consultants: physicists, technologists and engineers. PGP keys at: http://w3.citenet.net/users/jf_avon ID# C58ADD0D : 529645E8205A8A5E F87CC86FAEFEF891 I reserve the right to post publicly any private e-mail sent to me. Unsollicited commercial e-mail will be proofread at US165 $/h Any sender of such material will be considered as to have ac- cepted the above mentionned terms.

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