December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: PRZ /PGP
by jamesd＠echeque.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:57 PM 5/13/96 -0700, Vladimir Z. Nuri wrote: [Stupid trolling on reagan and the cold war deleted] > > it may also be that Zimmermann has a set of beliefs that he > champions in front of the public, but that his private ideology > is more radical. Zimmermann is in favor of liberty. Some of his ideas about how people can and should deal with each other to avoid violating each others rights are badly mistaken, but one of his ideas about liberty is spot on. [lots more trolling deleted] > 4. PRZ has a bad track record as far as meeting deadlines. No software project has ever come in on schedule or within budget. Yours will not be the first. [Even more moronic trolling deleted] --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Defeating fingerprints
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > With regards to filling in your own card, what about using a disappearing > ink?? Then your prints would disappear! You could even do your name, > right infront of them, and it would disappear, leaving these anynonomous > prints behind!! While the ink does become transparent/translucent I am shure the FBI chem lab won't have a problem finding traces of the chemical. This would make for jim dandy evidence in court. > Or you could make an inkpad that is damp with sodium hydroxide (lye) > instead of ink. That way, you could lightly roll your fingers in it, > like it was ink, and then wait a minute, and wipe it off. That way, the > only skin being eaten away, would be the ridges of the fingerprints. Do > this enought times, and the rigdes will end up the same height as the > valleys, and will then essentially be flat. Burglars and safecrackers sand the ridges off. Jim Choate

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crosspost re remailers
by hkhenson＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sorry to send this in blind. Over a year ago I switched from watching the "mutitions" R&D works to being an observer/participant on a small "test war." Once in a while, I send in a report. If you have comments which you want me to see, email them. Thanks, Keith Henson ******* Subject: Re: <<< Repost the NOTS everywhere! >>> Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,comp.org.eff.talk,alt.censorship References: <4ml2cv$c52(a)utopia.hacktic.nl> <4mrsf0$esn(a)news.bridge.net> <4ms9na$l24(a)Networking.Stanford.EDU> <4msu79$jdi(a)news.bridge.net> <henriDr5rpD.CqD(a)netcom.com> <4nae9i$bf7(a)news2.texas.net> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Distribution: inet Hoyos (hoyos(a)millenium.texas.net) wrote: : henry (henri(a)netcom.com) wrote: : : >What I find disturbing is certain people who were visibly outraged by : : >Steven Fishman's "outings" are supportive of the remailer abuse, _as_well_ : : remailer ABUSE? how is it remailer ABUSE to use them for their : : intended purposes. : Remailers exist to destroy copyrights? I always thought they were around : to ensure a certain amount of anonymity, not to permit people to destroy : copyrights and get away with it. Hoyos, you *can't* destroy copyright, period. Trade secrets are another matter, and I suppose you can make a case that the ability of a certain powerful cult to extract money or labor from the gulible has been reduced. I know some of the people who wrote the first cypherpunk remailers. They have been watching the uses to which the remailers have been put. The long drawn out battle between the CoS and the Net has been of as much interest to them as the performance of large guns at the front was to Krup. I can't speak for all of them--actually, I can't speak for *any* of them, but the ones who have said anything about the recent uses of the remailers do not seem unhappy. There may be some discussion related to this on the cypherpunks mailing list. But if you sign up, be prepaired for a flood. Keith Henson Crossposted to cypherpunks

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RSAREF for Mac?
by Jay Haines 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Subject: Time: 1:24 PM OFFICE MEMO RSAREF for Mac? Date: 5/14/96 It seems that I have seen this question asked before, but as I had no need for the answer at that time, I trashed it. So, without further ado: Can anyone point in the direction of RSAREF for the Macintosh? expectantly, (no, i'm not pregnant,) Jay

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Re: Fingerprinting annoyance
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 3:22 PM 5/14/96, Matthew Williams wrote: >> Date sent: Mon, 13 May 1996 23:19:12 -0400 (EDT) >> From: Black Unicorn <unicorn(a)schloss.li> > ><...> > >> >> I compare it to the ease with which one submits a fake social security >> number rather than simply refuse to submit one at all. A fake one wont >> raise any eyebrows, refusal will. > >Although knowingly providing a fake social security number when one >has any expectation of gain is, I believe, a felony. > >42 USC. sec. 408. Indeed. Plus, should one "just make a number up," odds are good that it "won't compute," that is, that it will either collide with an existing number (and identity, and reported income) or that it will fail the checksum/allocation tests. (That is, not all xxx-yy-zzzz numbers are valid SS numbers. See Chris Hibbert's "Structure of Social Security Numbers" FAQ, at http://snyside.sunnyside.com/cpsr/privacy/ssn/oldSSN/ssn.structure.html for details.) The IRS imposes penalties for faking SS numbers. (Not to mention the punishment meted out by the Sturmgruppenfuhrers of the SS!) A simple transposition of two digits may not get you zapped, but a large-scale transposition or outright falsification will. If and when they catch up with you. I'm all for avoiding taxes, but this is not a cost-effective way to do it. --Tim Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Fingerprinting annoyance
by SBinkley＠atitech.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

With regards to filling in your own card, what about using a disappearing ink?? Then your prints would disappear! You could even do your name, right infront of them, and it would disappear, leaving these anynonomous prints behind!! Or you could make an inkpad that is damp with sodium hydroxide (lye) instead of ink. That way, you could lightly roll your fingers in it, like it was ink, and then wait a minute, and wipe it off. That way, the only skin being eaten away, would be the ridges of the fingerprints. Do this enought times, and the rigdes will end up the same height as the valleys, and will then essentially be flat. Just a thought, but I'd like to hear if anyone would think either ideas would work. /sb

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Re: Senator Leahy's Public Key
by Sig Porter 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 13:23:09 -0400 (EDT) > From: Black Unicorn <unicorn(a)schloss.li> .... > I'll visit his office and ask if he wants he key signed this week. So? ------------------------------------- Sig Porter sporter(a)electriciti.com finger for pgp key

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Re: Edited Edupage, 9 May 1996
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 3:57 PM 5/14/96, Doug Hughes wrote: >I wouldn't normally respond to such an offtopic post, but this post is >so egregious I couldn't let it pass. Who says they make a choice to live >in rural areas? Do they also choose not to have enough money to pay >for shoes? So, because they live in a poor district they are not entitled Your shoe example is apt. Fact is, we *don't* pay for people's shoes. Why should we pay for their Net access when we don't pay for their shoes, or their food, or their electricity, or their phone bill, or their cable t.v. subscription? Many of these things seem like higher priorities than being able to "surf the Net." (It is true that we as a society--wrongly in my opinion, but this is another topic--give people various handouts. These handouts can be used to buy things, presumably including a $20/month unlimited access Internet account.) >to the same level of education as a rich city suburb? The illiteracy >rate in Alabama is 40%! This is just plain sick! I don't think that >every school needs a net connection, I think they need better teachers. But "Better teachers"? I doubt this changes anything. Only a cultural change will. (Why is it that dirt-poor "boat people" who floated into San Francisco Bay on inner tubes had children go from nearly zero English to 99% literacy in less than 5 years? Often in crowded schools, too. Think about it.) >Education is one thing (perhaps the only thing) that deserves to be >subsidized in this country. We're rapidly falling behind. Actually, the subcultures in American society which value learning and achievement are doing extremely well. Hand a motivate kid a book and he'll learn. Hand a gang-banger a book and he'll pull out a gun and kill you for the thrill of it. As a result, some subcultures are headed for the scrap heap. Think of it as evolution in action. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Welcome to clueless
by Majordomo＠c2.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: TO ALL MEMBERS
by SBinkley＠atitech.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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