December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Re[2]: on corporations and subpoenas
by David E. Smith 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Perry Metzger wrote... > "Adam Pingitore" writes: > > Um, well, then I'm going to have to spam your ass. > > Not a finger raised. I will do nothing whatsoever to take you off this > mailing list. > > Have fun. > Oooh, oooh, can I have some Spam (TM) too?

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java crypto packages
by Alex Strasheim 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The last time I looked, the coderpunks were talking about java crypto packages. Can anyone on that list tell me if any code has been made available? Unfortunately the archive is dead...

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RE: Anonymous Remailer threat: Scientologists may subpoena anonymous remailer records?
by Eric Anderson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- "Scamizdat" has never used anon.penet.fi, and his (their?) identity is still unknown. >>If A.R.S. is archived by one of those services, than all of those Scamidat postings are still available. Or is the CO$ going to sue them too? Can they retrieve any data from the cypherpunk/mixmaster remailers?

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RE: COQ_tal--comment
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 3:59 PM 4/17/96, Matt Thomlinson wrote: >damn, that's the second time I've done that this week! dang 'R' key.. > >apologies, > >mattt By the way, Matt, thanks for mentioning this on the list. As this was the second time I'd seen this, I was about to send you a short note mentioning that your requests to John's bot were also going to the list (in case you didn't know). I suspect at least 5 or maybe 10 others were thinking about doing the same thing. So, your acknowledgement helps. (This is the same reason I think most replies ought to be public, as this one will be: it signals others that a reply has been made. Standard game theory arguments.) --Tim Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: [NOISE] Toast Fishing in America
by David K. Merriman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:30 PM 04/17/96 -0700, Dave Del Toasto <ddt(a)lsd.com> wrote: >[from "If _____ Made Toasters" ...my edits] > > If The Rand Corporation made toasters... > They would be large, perfectly smooth, seamless black cubes. > Each morning, exactly as much toast as you could eat would > appear on top of your toaster. Their service department would > have an unlisted phone number and the cube's blueprints would > be highly-classified government documents, but the "X-Files" > would have an episode with a partially disassembled toaster > remarkably similar to it visible in the background. > > If the NSA made toasters... > Your toaster would have a secret crumb-door on the back that > only the NSA could open in case they needed to inspect your > toast for breakfasts of a national security nature. > If RSA made toasters... They'd tell you the price *only* after finding out how much toast you wanted to make and how badly you wanted the toast; then they'd insist on you making a piece of toast for them every time you used the toaster. If cypherpunks made toasters... Jim B and Black Unicorn would argue about whether toast should be buttered, and what the appropriate flavor of jam/jelly should be; TC May would point out that it wasn't really toast, but rather, sliced and slightly-burned bread; Perry would kvetch about the lack of crypto-relevance of toasters; and a few others would form a new listserver for toasterpunks. The service department would be flooded with calls from newbies, asking how to make toast. If Netscape made toasters... They'd beta-test the toasters for months, then make one slot too wide and the other too narrow. It wouldn't be until a cook in a diner pointed out that the toast wasn't coming out right that they'd have their design reviewed by a 3rd-party Toaster Engineer. If Microsoft made toasters... They'd put the slots on the side, the actuator on top, make the cord too short, and design it to only run properly on 177V, 41Hz. Then they'd declare the toaster to be the new industry standard. Dave Merriman ------------------------------------------------------------- "Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." P. J. O'Rourke (b. 1947), U.S. journalist. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> http://www.shellback.com/personal/merriman/index.htm

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Re[2]: on corporations and subpoenas
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 9:42 AM 4/17/96, Adam Pingitore wrote: > Um, well, then I'm going to have to spam your ass. Your metaphor escapes me... Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "If they could 'just pass just pass a few more laws', we would all be criminals." --Vinnie Moscaritolo The e$ Home Page: http://thumper.vmeng.com/pub/rah/

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LolitaWatch
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sunnyvale, CA. Nubility, Inc. is pleased to announce the availability of "LolitaWatch," a filter program for the Web and Net which alerts users about the presence of nubile, young teens (and even younger!). LolitaWatch operates by checking the federally-mandated "age bit." No longer will you be frustrated in trying to contact that 12-year-old girl, only to eventually learn she's a 44-year-old male playing mind games. The President of Nubility, Pete Ofeil, said "Hey, the government says that they have to wear a sign announcing their age...all we're doing is offering a service to our customers." (There is still the problem that the girl may be a boy, or vice versa, depending on your preferences, but this is likely to be solved as the "Fairness to Women and Other People of Color Protection Act," which mandates that a "gender bit" be set.) "LolitaWatch allows me to cut quickly to the chase, screening out the hags," says Roy G. Biv, appreciator of young girls. "I've even rigged up my copy of LolitaWatch to automatically alert me when one of these nubile young things enters an IRC chat room!," he added with a sly grin. LolitaWatch is available immediately for Windows and Macintosh. No Unix version is planned because Unix users are, well, unix.

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COQ_tal
by foodie＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-- Jamie foodie(a)netcom.com ________________________________________________________________ Our cat is a dog.

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Re: on corporations and subpoenas
by jpb＠miamisci.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

re: > GET ME OFF THE DAMN LIST Read the damn directions you got when you signed on. You know, that first message that told you to save the damn message in case you ever wanted to sign off the list in the future. Your cluelessness does not create any obligation in me to fix your problem. Perhaps if you were a little less rude someone might be inspired to give you useful information. Joseph Block <jpb(a)miamisci.org> "We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans ..." -- Bill Clinton (USA TODAY, 11 March 1993, page 2A) PGP 2048bit-Fingerprint: F8 A2 A5 15 56 42 9B 16 3F BD 57 0F 8A ED E3 21 No man's life, liberty or property are safe while the legislature is in session.

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Re: cluelessness
by remailer＠2005.bart.nl 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Wed, 17 Apr 1996 sameer(a)c2.org wrote: > > > > I think the "clueless" mailing list is a must at this point. > > clueless@c2.org/majordomo@c2.org > > subscribe idiots as necessary. is this the original clueless list or a new one just created?

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