December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Spin Control Alert (LI Newsday, 2/12/96)
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"declan+(a)CMU.EDU" "Declan B. McCullagh" 17-FEB-1996 18:07:51.71 >A lawsuit against the atheist would not be effective and could result in >a countersuit for abuse of process. Huh? You seem to have misinterpreted what I said. The atheist, who has a child that reads the net, sues a Christian Fundamentalist organization (say, one of the Southern Baptist seminaries) for having a copy of the Bible - which contains material that is among the "seven dirty words" or whatever - online, where the child can read it. The CDA essentially says that a child reading indecent materials is doing harm to the child (a nice bit of nonsense), which gives the government the (undeserved) power to regulate such interactions. A countersuit will be somewhat difficult, since the organization in question (the one with the Bible online) is breaking the law; while there have been burglar suing because of broken leg cases, I believe that such are generally thrown out - possibly due to laws on the subject. Now, the jury won't find the seminary or whoever liable... but it would create some publicity and tie the sued organization up for a while. It's something that I'd encourage an atheist organization to sponsor. -Allen

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Re: Req. for soundbites
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>A local TV station has asked me for an interview, after I sent a graphic >of a mono-digital hand gesture with the phrase "censor this!" to the Prez, >Veep, and the area congresscritters (cc'd to 2 TV stations and a radio >station), accompanied by a 'confession' and demand for swift prosecution. > >Anyone got any nifty sound bites I can try to toss in? After following the information on the cda96-l mailing list I have a new one for you, "The CDA means lost jobs and dead teenagers". The lost jobs result from content providers going overseas and the dead teenagers result from the loss of anonymously accessible information about homosexuality (suicides) and AIDS prevention (AIDS). OBcrypto - Strong anonymity can save lives. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 | lost jobs and | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Re: Risks of a style anonymizer?
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com" "Deranged Mutant" 17-FEB-1996 18:49:54.40 >One risk of "style anonymizers", though: if the style becomes too generic >it's just another levelling of readability. Usenet and mailing lists can >become that much more boring, if not stupidified with too many spelling >errors and grammatical abuses. Having style anonymizers that didn't create spelling problems, but just filtered them out would be a solution to the latter. The former problem can be taken care of by having many different styles that can be used. For instance, it might notice that your sentence length variation wasn't enough for a given style of writing, and prompt you to write some shorter (and/or longer) sentences - including via breaking up the ones you've written already. One would use a different style setting for each nym. -Allen

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Re: A Cyberspace Independence Refutation
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"bdavis(a)thepoint.net" "Brian Davis" 17-FEB-1996 23:44:32.70 >On Sat, 17 Feb 1996, Dave Farber wrote: >> The President can not rule anything unconstitutional. He can tell justice >> not to enforce it but sometime local federal prosecutors do what they want >U.S. Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the President. U.S. Attorneys >cannot fire their Assistants -- they can only recommend such action to >the Attorney General or the Deputy Attorney General. As I understand it, what the President can do is order them not to defend its constitutionality - making it _real_ easy to remove in court. BTW, why (other than political cowardice) hasn't Clinton done so with respect to gays in the military? -Allen P.S. Since that last question is getting off the subject, feel free to do it in private email.

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Sound Bites (finale)
by David K. Merriman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Many thanks to those that posted/emailed sound bites, observations, information, etc. Some were used, some weren't (did what I could with what I had :-). When asked why I was protesting the CDA the way I was, I just told them what popped into my head on the spot: "Because it's *my* Constitution, too." Dave Merriman------------------------------------------------------------- "Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." P. J. O'Rourke (b. 1947), U.S. journalist. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> For privacy tools: http://www.geocities.com/capitolhill/1148

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Re:
by Dave Emery 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > >Ettrium > > Yttrium? My lord you've caught me with my rare earths down - its Erbium not Yttrium. Sorry about that ... Dave > -------------------------------+----------------------------------------- > Sean Morgan (sean(a)lucifer.com) | Let me tell you a few bits about myself: > | CACTTGCCGGGTAACACTCCATGAAATTCTTCTCAGCC > http://www.lucifer.com/~sean/ | AGGTGTCGACGCTAGGATCAACCTTTAAGTGAACT... >

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Re:
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 8:13 PM 2/18/96 -0500, Dave Emery wrote: >> >> Bob writes: >> >> > Does anyone know if the new in-line optical amplifiers (not switches!) have >> > any effect on quantum crypto messages? > > Optical >> repeaters have to pass your signal through an intermediate electronic >> stage anyway, since we have no purely optical valve/transistor >> equivalents (bosons don't interact with each other at all). > > This is not true. There is now a whole technology of optical >amplifiers for fiber communications systems that used Ettrium doped >fibers pumped with strong light from a laser at a slightly shorter >wavelength. These fiber optical amplifiers have gains in the order of >10-12 db in a section of special doped fiber only about 10 feet long. I don't think that it matters whether you convert to electronics or amplify with laser techniques. The cryptographic secret is kept in the quantum uncertainity of the state of the (single) photon. Anything that collapses that quantum uncertainity acts as a man-in-the-middle and stops the key/OTP generation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 | lost jobs and | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Anonymous remailers are a virus spreading online! (Replies)
by Declan B. McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded from Computer Privacy Digest. These messages are in reply to the Strassmann/Marlow paper archived at: http://fight-censorship.dementia.org/fight-censorship/dl?num=1159 -Declan ---------- Forwarded message begins here ---------- From: cnordin(a)vni.net (Craig Nordin) Date: 15 Feb 1996 15:02:16 -0500 Subject: Re: Anonymous Remailers are a Virus Spreading Online Organization: Virtual Networks References: <comp-privacy8.14.10(a)cs.uwm.edu> Note the SAIC name in the byline. Note that CIA folk have often published stuff and not fessed up to having a CIA background. Anonymous remailers are the number one threat to total control via government. If you read something anonymous you can discard it simply because the writer is unwilling to stand beside his words. Or, you can see if it is an apt piece of writing and decide that it does apply, even without an author. This thread is part of a "school" of such topics now reaching us through various media. Note the recent news made by an internet announcement that a girl was being abused by her mother. Kids are said to be making bombs from instructions via the Internet (and why were they making so many bombs learned from libraries and colleges before and not even making it past the local news?). Some people don't like utterly free speech. -- http://www.vni.net/ cnordin(a)vni.net Fly VNI: Send E-Mail to info(a)vni.net ------------------------------ From: "Prof. L. P. Levine" <levine(a)blatz.cs.uwm.edu> Date: 15 Feb 1996 16:22:41 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Anonymous Remailers are a Virus Spreading Online Organization: University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee My most serious question about anonymous remailers is this: How can we be sure that the operator of such a remailer is not a federal or other governmental agent? That person is trusted with our privacy and has all the data needed to identify a user. If I were the Feds I would already have set up such a "sting" operation, the temptation is just too great. -- Leonard P. Levine e-mail levine(a)cs.uwm.edu Professor, Computer Science Office 1-414-229-5170 University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Fax 1-414-229-6958 Box 784, Milwaukee, WI 53201 PGP Public Key: finger llevine(a)blatz.cs.uwm.edu ------------------------------ ---------------------------------+----------------------------------------- Leonard P. Levine | Moderator of: Computer Privacy Digest Professor of Computer Science | and comp.society.privacy University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee | Post: comp-privacy(a)uwm.edu Box 784, Milwaukee WI 53201 | Information: comp-privacy-request(a)uwm.edu | Gopher: gopher.cs.uwm.edu levine(a)cs.uwm.edu | Web: gopher://gopher.cs.uwm.edu ---------------------------------+----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of Computer Privacy Digest V8 #015 ******************************

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Re: Turkey
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:46 AM 2/19/96 +0300, yesim ozben wrote: >I read that they are trying to pass some law for the net to be controlled >by a monopoly and the reason is to be able to control things. So it's >spreading. > >Yesim > But if Turkey joins the EU, they will have to give up national communications monopolies. I knew the Treaty of Rome was good for something. DCF

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Re:
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 08:13 PM 2/18/96 -0500, Dave Emery wrote: > >> >> Bob writes: >> >> > Does anyone know if the new in-line optical amplifiers (not switches!) have >> > any effect on quantum crypto messages? > > Optical >> repeaters have to pass your signal through an intermediate electronic >> stage anyway, since we have no purely optical valve/transistor >> equivalents (bosons don't interact with each other at all). > > This is not true. There is now a whole technology of optical >amplifiers for fiber communications systems that used Ettrium doped >fibers pumped The proper name is "Erbium." But the rest of Dave Emery's commentary is accurate. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com Klaatu Burada Nikto Something is going to happen. Something.....Wonderful! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMSfqOPqHVDBboB2dAQH9vgP/X8sK3BdAwqf3clXxP31DZJqH6xLjMX3l UxZSDsLOJ7MRrkJ3h2WV+cBXtu6ZA/zOOjmjh+o+U+b4rEPQrVWfj10LyV5uYC7l Du9Sq6S3/qD9MVJLG5dTB3rnaLRh0alBWInyJBIJZz2Y7cjHJ+LCu7u++u39uLzv V5WV2DSdWW8= =QJ7q -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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