December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Microsoft has a way to go on E-Mail
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

tcmay(a)got.net (Timothy C. May) said, >Either Microsoft handles undeliverable mail different from most other >places, ... I believe that this is what Mr. Bill called "Eating your own dog food." ;-) Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "Reality is not optional." --Thomas Sowell The NEW(!) e$ Home Page: http://thumper.vmeng.com/pub/rah/ >>>>Phree Phil: Email: zldf(a)clark.net http://www.netresponse.com/zldf <<<<<

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Re: Guerilla Internet Service Providers (fwd)
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:43 1/4/96 -0600, Jason Rentz wrote: >Previous exchanges deleted... >> >>With a tightly focused beam (light is easy, I don't know about lower >>frequencies), you can prevent interception except by very obvious physical >>devices. (e.g. Someone in a cherry picker truck.) You may be able to >>avoid the need to encrypt the link (and all the paranoia about key >>management, advances in factoring etc. that that implies.) >> >>Bill > >The problem with this comes when you start creating links between much >taller buildings like in San Fran. Any give building over 30 stories might >sway a foot or so at any given time. Combine that with the other building >and you might get a few feet of movement. (movement not including during an >earthquake) :) (1) No single communication technology is appropriate for every problem. (2) A technical fix could include having the receiver send steering orders to the transmitter. This solution would, of course, be a long way from the low tech scavenged lens and 1/2 meter cardboard mailing tube technology I was thinking of. Bill

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AP: Compuserve Will Lift Newsgroup Ban
by Declan B. McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Compuserve's original statement from last week is at: http://www.compuserve.com/at/pressbox/newsgrps.html Attached are excerpts from today's AP article. -Declan ---------- Forwarded message begins here ---------- Columbus, Ohio (AP) -- The on-line service CompuServe says it hopes to reopen access to 200 sexually oriented Internet forums to all but its German customers by the end of the month... CompuServe spokesman Jeff Shafer said Wednesday the Columbus-based company is working on a software fix that will prevent Germans from accessing the newsgroups while allowing access to customers in the rest of the world... Munich's senior public prosecutor, Manfred Wick, said this week his office did not order a ban or provide CompuServe with any list as part of its investigation of child pornography. But he acknowledged that police asked CompuServe to scrutinize a list last month. `The decision on whether and to what extent the groups on the list would be blocked was left to CompuServe,'' Wick's statement said.

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Using lasers to communicate
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 5:43 PM 1/4/96, Jason Rentz wrote: >Previous exchanges deleted... >> >>With a tightly focused beam (light is easy, I don't know about lower >>frequencies), you can prevent interception except by very obvious physical >>devices. (e.g. Someone in a cherry picker truck.) You may be able to >>avoid the need to encrypt the link (and all the paranoia about key >>management, advances in factoring etc. that that implies.) >> >>Bill > >The problem with this comes when you start creating links between much >taller buildings like in San Fran. Any give building over 30 stories might >sway a foot or so at any given time. Combine that with the other building >and you might get a few feet of movement. (movement not including during an >earthquake) :) Just a couple of points on this optical idea. We were linking buildings a mile apart in the 70s, at Intel. We needed to ship CAD data back and forth, and PacBell rates for a dedicated line were outrageous, slow to be installed, etc. So, a commercially available laser and modulator/demodulator (modem, but it bears sometimes using the longer version, to remind people of what it is doing in general) were mounted on the roofs of our buildings. I'm sure various packages are commercially available to do this. As to buildings swaying in earthquakes, somehow I don't think transient loss of channel capacity during a quake is going to be a pressing concern! :-} Swaying in ordinary wind is an easily-handled problem. (Any good engineer can think of several fixes: paraboloidal dish receivers are cheap (not even optical quality, just to get light pulses), compensation for sway, acceptance of slightly reduced data rates as modem error correction handles sway-induced dropouts, movement of the transmitters and receivers to lower levels, etc.) Also, nearly all high-tech buildings (or at least more than 95% of all high-tech floorspace in the U.S.) are less than 3-4 stories tall; most are 1-2 stories. Building sway is nonexistent. And building sway only approaches the multiple meter level in the highest floors of the tallest buildings. I would guess that fewer than 1% of all offices are affected; for them, a lower data rate is acceptable. I'm actually more positive on low-level (below safety regs get interested in) light than on free space RF, for bypassing of the local cable/phone monopolies. There's just not enough "bandwidth of free space" available. Do the math. (Footnote: Some years back some of us got interested in the idea of using lasers to communicate between San Diego/Chula Vista and Tijuana. Ordinary phone lines turned out to be cheaper.) --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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USENIX anyone?
by Matt Blaze 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm going to be at the USENIX conference in San Diego later this month, as are, I suspect, many other crypto/cypherpunk types. Any interest in a crypto BOF?

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dsd
by FreeBSD user 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 13:55 1/4/96 -0500, Tony Iannotti wrote: >On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: > >> Yes it would require that the Node be checked in the Software. What I was >> responding to was a claim that there is no way of telling where I am >> connecting from (which I disproved). As to calling a non-German Node, that >> is always an option. > >Yes, I agree. I think the real difference is that they really cannot tell >where you are calling from, even though they know where you are >connecting. Caller ID could tell them where you are calling from. They can also use their billing information and user profile information to decide where you live and/or how old you are. I wonder if any of these filters will keep the German prosecutors off their necks, given that they can be bypassed. I feel sorry for them given the situation they are in, and want to kick their butts for just rolling over dead instead of fighting for free access. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Re: 2047 bit keys in PGP
by Cedric Tefft 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: owner-cypherpunks > To: cypherpunks > Subject: Re: 2047 bit keys in PGP > Date: Thursday, January 04, 1996 11:29AM > > In article <v02130503ad119cbfdece(a)[205.231.67.43]>, > netdog <netdog(a)dog.net> wrote: > >nobody will ever need more than 640K or RAM? i wouldn't underestimate the > >ability of technology to grow at a pace that is beyond our wildest > >dreams-especially with this network serving as a virtual office/lab. of > >course, ymmv. > > Order of magnitude check: > > There is a very well-defined limit to the size of key that can be broken by > brute force, independent of your "wildest dreams" as to the growth of > technology. It's the Laws of Thermodynamics. [snip] No law says the attack has to be brute force. What about the birthday attack, differential cryptanalysis, etc? True, I believe neither of those examples are applicable to RSA, but factoring is, and it's _much_ more efficient than brute force searches. There might be other algorithems out there (or as yet undiscovered) that are more efficient than current factoring algorithms are (or ever hope to be). If your attacker has an algorithm whereby he has to search less than the full keyspace, he has effectively reduced the size of your key. Essentially, his attack is the same order of magnitude as a brute force search of this new reduced keyspace (call it "effective" keyspace for convenience). The greater difference between the effective keyspace and the real keyspace (determined by his cracking algorithm), the larger I need to make my real key to compensate. If his algorithm effectively cuts my keyspace in half, I need to make it twice as large as I would need if my attacker's best algorithm were brute force. >And they strongly imply that brute-force attacks against 256-bit keys will be infeasible > until computers are built from something other than matter and occupy > something other than space." Hmmm... Well, the 384-bit Blacknet PGP key was cracked in just a few months. How? Certainly parallelism helped, but the main reason is that they were factoring keys rather than searching the full keyspace by brute force. I don't know about you, but I'm certainly not going to stop increasing the size of my key simply because it can't be cracked by brute force. - Cedric

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Re: Microsoft has a way to go on E-Mail
by Brad Shantz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, I've just installed the Microsoft Exchange Server release candidate at the office. I am firmly convinced that the bounce messages Tim just mentioned are from an Exchange server that has not been set up correctly. Things I've noticed: If the client sends a message to an invalid address on the same LAN the server returns an error saying that there is no transport available. If the mail is from an oustide source, the recipient is not recognized. It's really easy to make mistakes because there is no consistency whatsoever between Exchange Server and MS-Mail Server. Brad

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CACM Jan 96 "Inside Risks" column
by Rich Salz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Peter G. Neumann has a very good column this month on risks and the "worldwide rush [to] digital commerce." Summarizes problems with our infrastructure, gives some concrete examples, and discusses importance of privacy as a commodity, and how "We need, among other things, ... consistent use of good cryptography in operating systems and application software." /r$

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