December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

FreeBSD user
by Julian Assange 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've just had my 3rd Freebsd kernel. Enough is enough. --Proff -- +----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ |Julian Assange | "if you think the United States has | |FAX: +61-3-9819-9066 | stood still, who built the largest | |EMAIL: proff(a)suburbia.net | shopping centre in the world?" - Nixon | +----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+

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Re: FreeBSD user <fb@sponsor.octet.com>
by reagle＠rpcp.mit.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I consider it to be an attack. Certainly seems like it to me when it bungs up my poor eudora dial-up connection and I can't get mail.

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Re: FreeBSD user <fb@sponsor.octet.com>
by Lou Zirko 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

No, got three myself. The third did seem a little different from the first two though, but I didn't study them that closely. ]> > Am I the only one who has received three unreadable > messages from this address on cypherpunks? > > -- > #include <disclaimer.h> /* Sten Drescher */ Lou Zirko (615)851-1057 Zystems lzirko(a)isdn.net "We're all bozos on this bus" - Nick Danger, Third Eye -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzBLJocAAAEEAMlDzYJPYq0pvfMuSiKU0Y65L2nJql+qEJHYGjO5Pys4prDw YW1ooPWaqrPQAy/eyqrM7I9KNFDCtmaPxtgcPw2oEDfc/w6cPkrVzvovKLfHQvtg V/hHUekptSf6j525omrVAoM9MxVL3sEGCjn9VrTeC3h9upkfntHOJeL88i2NAAUR tB5Mb3UgWmlya28gPHppcmtvbEBkYXRhdGVrLmNvbT4= =Qlxm -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Re: 2047 bit keys in PGP
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:02 AM 1/4/96 -0800, you wrote: >All that being said, I believe that 128 bits is sufficient for a >symmetric key and 2048 for a public key. Our paranoia would be far >better directed at as yet unknown attacks on the algoritms involved >or the specific implementations of cryptographic systems. Paul Kocher's >recent timing attack is a perfect example of what we should be afraid >of. Exactly! I agree. There is plenty of work that can be directed towards the hardware arena, for example. Better filters (AC, telephone, keyboard cable), untamperable hardware (keyboards come to mind, for instance: Design one whose RF "signature" can't be read remotely), a push towards the use of thin-film-type displays that don't radiate (much) in the RF spectrum, automatic over-write of unused data areas in hard/floppy disks (including the (unallocated) space at the ends of files), etc.

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Re: [NOISE] Trying to init security channel
by futplex＠pseudonym.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 4 Jan 96 13:11:36 IST > From: geoff klein <geoff(a)commtouch.co.il> > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: Trying to init security channel > X-Potpinitrequest: AwAAAAAAAADhi+swAQAAAPqPQh4AACoAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARjMwMzBGRjIyMTFENTBEMABnZW9mZkBjb21tdG91Y2guY28uaWwAY3lwaGVycHVua3NAdG9hZC5jb20A Another satisfied "Power One Time Pad" user, it would appear.... > > This message was sent by Pronto Secure Mail. > Without Pronto you can not establish a secure channel. > > Please send a reply manually. Futplex <futplex(a)pseudonym.com> *** Welcome to Cypherpunks -- Now Go Home *** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBMOxzMinaAKQPVHDZAQGcIwf+KYlU8PiutVTduMG2Jxt7KDsEhDvjjiDi p+kBKw0y2Tj+Z/LGoCTSu2egMxFf9L9mWg8ulNCXPu92Bg1PWNPFJpTeXYcQfHnz fQfQlbnixwo1gU1DW0AVpeq5iIdBwOOqh2TEa5m7LQXiCU3RDS0Q0+muDzvncykC UkF+uzPvxrZW88LFnxSmYez3o/Xj0V39gvKANkZvqOotm90g5bYb6TY8qCUFfSUh hNPPA1irtYc96a73WXRYciW4T1H8cfsmmlwMxbCbILer6MPH+2CZMD1DP5eIu0cd 4vvN6n3pPgBs7YAp4RANf6HKHZpJwB/MG+TOt2ngolsPt5JFvrUKuQ== =wXVD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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re: FreeBSD user <fb@sponsor.octet.com>
by MMac102754＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've gotten thee posting from fb(a)sponsor.octet.com that are greek to me. Or is it code?

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Re: \"Concryption\"
by Marshall Clow 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A little birdie (anonymous(a)freezone.remailer) said: >Does anyone understand what this "Concryption" really is? Reading the >press blurbs, it could be nothing more than simply compressing the >stream before encrypting it. A patent on that idea would be rather >awkward. > I doubt that it could be awkward, given that my employer, Aladdin Systems, has been shipping a software package that implements this since 1986. :-) -- Marshall Marshall Clow Aladdin Systems <mailto:mclow@mailhost2.csusm.edu> "Eternal vigilance is the price of PostScript" -- MacUser Jan 96 DTP and Graphics column

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Double Messages from Ed Carp
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:49 AM 1/5/96, Ed Carp [khijol SysAdmin] wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Ed, I've pointed out to you during our mini-flame war that I've been getting >> 4 copies of your every e-mail: 2 via the cpunks list, 2 directly from your >> box cc:'d to me. You _know_ that I've been getting 2 copies of cc:'s not >> passing through toad.com, that the problem is at your end, and not at >>toad.com, >> and you should _not_ send test posts to cypherpunks. > >The problem is *not* at my end, your ignorance is showing. If it were, >then everyone would be getting 2 copies of everything I send, and that's >simply not true. Some people are getting two copies, but some are only >getting one copy. I have also been getting two copies of most or all of your messages, at least for the past few weeks (since you became active on the list again, I think). I have not been complaining, just deleting the extra copies. In looking at the detailed headers of a pair of such duplicates I see that there may have been some kind of "fork" (not a technical term, just a description) where the two messages (called Blue and Red) differ as follows: Blue Message: Received: from dal1820.computek.net by toad.com id AA01149; Thu, 4 Jan 96 16:49:35 PST Received: (from erc@localhost) by dal1820.computek.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id SAA19801; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:49:29 -0600 Red Message: Received: from dal1820.computek.net by toad.com id AA01148; Thu, 4 Jan 96 16:49:36 PST Received: (from erc@localhost) by dal1820.computek.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id SAA19801; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 18:49:29 -0600 Only a one-second difference, but the difference grows in later headers. The point is that there were already two slightly difference versions of the message before toad.com was reached. Other subtle differences exist, too. For example: Blue Message: X-UIDL: 820809984.020 Red Message: X-UIDL: 820809984.018 I don't even know what X-UIDL is, but this is a notable difference between the two versions. I suggest you carefully examine the full headers and go from there. It appears that toad.com is only sending two messages because it _received_ two messages. --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Apologies for my absense
by Jonathan Zamick 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sorry I've been so absent from the list recently. I've been variously flying back and forth to different conferences, working on putting new things together for RSAREF, and finally going on a much needed vacation (I'm feeling much better now.) Actually, after recovering from blood loss from the hoards of mosquitos which greeted me at the airport, I've finally gotten ready to wade through my Cpunk backlogs. Some news: 1. Come to the RSAREF conference, and say hi at the Consensus booth. Its rumored I'll be wearing a white shirt 2 of the 3 days and maybe a jacket, while wearing a tie and boxers one one of the days. (The tie is a bit unusual I have to admit.) You all gave me a number of nifty wishlists when I stuck the option out there before and I think life is good. I can't tell you about it now, or at least I'm not going to because suspense is fun. However, in seriousness stop by. We'll have at least 3 major announcements to make which will be of moderate interest to y'all. Besides, I'm spending the next two weeks panicking about the booth and will need some peer support once I collapse. (We just wanted a room for an hour to get a little roundtable.) 2. Please give some comment on our RSAREF web pages. I've just started pouring some info into them to answer questions people have about the licensing and such. If there are questions you have that aren't answered, let me know. (If the question is, where do I send my flame... you don't really need me to answer do you? :) Anyway, who else is going to be at the conference? (Also who is going to be at MacWorld?) Lastly, I'd like to plan a Cpunk party. I'm thinking about March 15th perhaps in the Berkeley area. Its going to be a Sake party, in the Takara Sake factory, so we can be really droll and mix the Cyber/Cypher punk motif. :) That sound like a good night? Any major conferences causing a problem? Jonathan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ..Jonathan Zamick Consensus Development Corporation.. ..<JonathanZ(a)consensus.com> 1563 Solano Ave, #355.. .. Berkeley, CA 94707-2116.. .. o510/559-1500 f510/559-1505.. ..Mosaic/WWW Home Page: .. .. Consensus Home Page ..

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Re: Concription [NOISE]
by Corey Minter 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

anonymous(a)freezone.remailer wrote: > Does anyone understand what this "Concryption" really is? Reading the > press blurbs, it could be nothing more than simply compressing the > stream before encrypting it. A patent on that idea would be rather > awkward. if there is nothing more to concription, then it sounds like a bogus patent since PGP documents and implements the technique already. Maybe it would make a nice trademark though. Does anyone know if macaroni and cheese combined in one meal is patented? If not, maybe I can go out and patent it. :) -- ______________________________________________________________________ Corey Minter | cminter(a)mipos2.intel.com | (408) 765-1714

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