December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Big Brother is watching
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: > > At 9:03 AM -0700 9/4/97, Anonymous wrote: > >> Yes, rest assured that Big Brother is watching. Three CopBots have been > >> deployed around the county to take pictures of vehicles exiting > >> intersections after the light has turned red. > (We have the cameras in our area, too. In Campbell, CA, for example. My > recollection from news stories is that the camera also snaps a photo of the > driver, allowing reasonably positive ID. If the photo is blurred or not > usable in court, the traffic charge is dropped (probably only if > challenged, though). Some interesting constitutional issues, it seems to > me. Namely, if Alice is driving Bob's car and is ticketed, should Bob face > the points on his license? Or even criminal charges? Seems to violate our > notions of scienter.) Their is a pair of on-off ramps in the Bay area where they have the PhotoCop Bots on both sides you can get nailed both ways if you circle back and forth. I like to steal the plates off of a matching vehicle late at night and spend an hour or so speeding back and forth between the exits, then replacing the plates on the vehicle when I'm done. (Hint: wear a cap and glasses with the big clown nose.) Not that I'm a troublemaker... PlateMonger

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Feinstein first...then Clinton..._then_ the lawyers!
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

And while Clinton on July 1 took a very public stand for a tax-free, self-governed Internet, In contrast to Clinton's support of proposals like the Internet Tax Freedom Act, which would prohibit states from taxing online commerce, Excuse me? Sounds like a 'State-tax'-free InterNet. The proposal to give the States money for welfare and let them decide how to disperse it is the preliminary move toward dropping the funding levels and let the States bear the burden of the fallout from the new welfare 'reforms'. First you dump it in the lap of the States, then you cut back funding, and you let the citizens cry out to D.C. for help, at which time you take away even more of their rights in return for "protecting" them from the evil States, or you turn them into slave labor for big corporations, like you did with the people in your prisons. Once the States are prohibited by law from taxing online commerce, D.C. will suddenly discover the great "crisis" that will ensue when the citizens find out how to dodge taxes, and the Feds will step forward to "save the day" by announcing a Federal InterNet commerce tax, promising to "share" it with the States. (Of course, the States won't _get_ their share if they don't force their citizens to drive 55 mph and work 20 hours a week in the voluntary-mandatory Federal Re-election Campaign Fund Work Camp. During discussion of the Kerrey-McCain bill in July, Feinstein left before her constituents from the software industry in the Silicon Valley testified -- and after telling representatives of the FBI and the National Security Agency that she would defer to their expertise on what was a confusing issue. I didn't see the FBI or the NSA on the election ballot. Did you? I ask you, "WHO THE FUCK IS RUNNING THIS COUNTRY?!?!?" Where does this Nazi CUNT get off telling the people who elected her that she can't be bothered to make the effort to understand the issues involved so she will let nameless, faceless government Law Enforcement Agents make the decision as to what to do with the encryption plunger. NEWS FLASH!!! --- THIS JUST IN... The pilot of a U.S. nuclear bomber left formation before receiving her flight orders from the Pentagon--and after telling Tim C. May and James Dalton Bell that she would defer to their expertise on what was a confusing issue (where to drop the BIG ONE). President Clinton, when reached for comment, said, "Didn't we fire that slut from Minot Air Force Base? And what the fuck is Paula Jones doing up there with her? Say...what is that plane............" In solidarity, we remain... FineSwineFirstMonger CintonNextMonger ThenTheLawyersMonger KentCrispinMonger <kentmonger(a)songbirdmonger.commonger> Kent'sBossMonger TheSpookReadingKentAndHisBoss'sPrivateEmailMonger TheSpookReadingTheOtherSpooksEmailMonger EtcEtcMonger

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FBI calls for mandatory key escrow; Denning on export ctrls
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

All encryption products sold or distributed in the U.S. must have a key escrow backdoor "like an airbag in a car," law enforcement agents advised a Senate panel this afternoon. FBI Director Louis Freeh also told a Senate Judiciary subcommittee that "network service providers should be required to have some immediate decryption ability available" permitting agents to readily descramble encrypted messages that pass through their system. This marks the most aggressive push to date for mandatory domestic key escrow (or "key recovery"), which means someone else other than the recipient can decipher messages you send out. Now, the easiest way to win such a political tussle in Washington is to control the terms of the debate. And nobody understands that rule better than Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Arizona), chair of the Judiciary subcommittee on technology, terrorism, and government information. Kyl opened today's hearing not by saying its purpose was to discuss crypto in a balanced manner, but that he wanted "to explore how encryption is affecting the way we deal with criminals, terrorists, and the security needs of business." Then he talked at length about "criminals and terrorists" using crypto, and child pornographers "using encryption to hide pornographic images of children that they transmit across the Internet." Kyl also stacked the three panels. Out of seven witnesses, five were current or former law enforcement agents. No privacy or civil liberties advocates testified. Some companies including FedEx apparently dropped out when told they'd have to pay lip service to key escrow if they wanted to speak. Dorothy Denning, a Georgetown University professor of computer science, did testify. Kyl made a point of asking her if she still supported key escrow systems (two recent articles by Will Rodger and Simson Garfinkel said she was changing her mind). "I think key recovery offers a very attractive approach," Denning said. What about export controls? "In the absence of any controls, the problem for law enforcement would get worse," she replied. But when Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif) asked if Denning would support a *mandatory* key escrow system, the computer scientist said she wouldn't. "No, because we don't have a lot of experience we key recovery systems... a lot of people are legitimately nervous." (Keep in mind that although Feinstein supposedly represents Silicon Valley, she's no friend of high tech firms. She opposes lifting export controls; in fact, she says that "nothing other than some form of mandatory key recovery really does the job" of preventing crime. Of course, Feinstein doesn't have a clue. She talks about whether businesses would want "a hard key or digital key or a key infrastructure." Yes, folks, this is in fact meaningless blather.) Marc Rotenberg, director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center in Washington, DC, says, "Simply stated, the Senate train is headed in the wrong direction. But of course this doesn't answer the question of what will ultimately be resolved by Congress? There's a very popular measure in the House right now that's heading in a different direction." Rotenberg is talking about Rep. Bob Goodlatte's SAFE bill, which is much more pro-business than S.909, the McCain-Kerrey Senate bill that Kyl supports. Now, S.909 doesn't mandate key recovery; it only strongly encourages it by wielding the federal government's purchasing power to jumpstart a key recovery infrastructure. But Kyl would go further. At a recent Heritage Foundation roundtable on encryption, I asked him, "Why not make key recovery technology mandatory -- after all, terrorists, drug kingpins and other criminals won't use it otherwise. Kyl's response? Not that it would be a violation of Constitutional due process and search and seizure protections or a bad idea. Instead, he told me he simply didn't have enough votes... -Declan

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TEA REMAILER: new mix key & type-1 pgponly mended
by Antonomasia 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- My apologies for the recent failure of the type-1 portion of tea, due to my clumsiness with procmail. The tea remailer has a new mix key, as is my custom, old ones remain in force _for a little while_. (If somebody can explain how to force the use of the previous key on a new installation I'd be pleased to learn - I haven't managed so far.) The (not very) old PGP key remains unchanged. Here is the public key for The Email Anonymizer: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= tea tea(a)notatla.demon.co.uk c0c054d374a12420e881dd7d27bff5fc 2.0.4b14 MC - -----Begin Mix Key----- c0c054d374a12420e881dd7d27bff5fc 258 AASoHzHsRr3emZA9t0ARvKUf6K4/5rYxRxuYk7XD 6ECrnZIQjYYeloI2yiiN+NUXCrVbsSUJqgGCnX+O XoTdOaO2d/GA5r4rB8EsjLVNewAKq9w6a7vIhO5m 4OyNC7rvA3xkiaexrdbt6/qN4Ab1+SY7GuTOKXwy 5bLHC2qPzqVVNwAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQAB - -----End Mix Key----- Key for user ID: The Email Anonymizer <tea(a)notatla.demon.co.uk> 2048-bit key, key ID C551BA85, created 1997/08/25 - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.3i mQENAjQBmK8AAAEIAOHEvRoyB2+TRDdVfIYmSWE+2mHdGVGfSOfdheMUpsUTn2PF Hg3cCEAcpp9KJjSW4hIu0csBcpdEFMb4uu8ZCZIgjOs6QFLhqb6MnVNAXJoxfq1Y U0sl32/ttKBlFvDFJ9vDgORML9Gqz/chgfDGNbe4Cd0DNy7K8azrVdnPE+4SrH0e C/cfZPfRbYTauQ1Qx1Z2sSp2muDRhodnM1U124Rxkr3nEECadpQfofVDRc5sKAu5 /Vi5TDyj+YLrw33ilp3KceAsCod6WW1JUJm0fkTHEXRrfC6QFq5FiV1kcxx+WwW2 nMHbv3SaLbdPnIsfJPmi/AsdLPfacNP6IsVRuoUABRG0LlRoZSBFbWFpbCBBbm9u eW1pemVyIDx0ZWFAbm90YXRsYS5kZW1vbi5jby51az6JARUCBRA0AZiwcNP6IsVR uoUBAfM1CADFwRTqyrYENZy+5jFGv8fOteXcR+AvpLcY1Rz6Wkz4EbFS75ZO9lrU oUSwGhR5hyzitBmNBKoJxuZxTf/8TePvUC4uSZViWIvQeFFRnC6ho6iEk2lSE/aQ xHLXSReoXhjOwrZXn0Uot6wG1J3sxfytbBQrpAcNIiqXVlYNvJzCjTemdjjPcec3 Q4v02YsPBUIS3eFBJtNmrVjbMuG/EvJvI1TsSwTklp/z7ieIsZ02uIgW80N3cGZG b7fF32wlZUOQdkXjcbc3+ND2+uqnMK4Lp9qQVs30q6rg71TPm372YJE13BkcWcYw BgypsiaVtbEmxR6AINj38XIk2IaPRT1Q =mKq+ - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQCVAgUBNA80E0rZ5ZQH9XIxAQEqKgP8DROVlKims1cIxImaormPrsGk7HLnxCtq pw5WjER7nnI4jQMhXAlo4sWUeuCNKaCCq9zzghrtlRO2hHKk4QJ1DtKvKhlcs9Go V0cT/iCoz51ogxRWma/G+3LKUoTTq34+6KsCFxl+sCvjk0gFBQQSqUPx+BBxbh41 HgaD/zFS/E4= =/0UG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ############################################################## # Antonomasia ant(a)notatla.demon.co.uk # # See http://www.notatla.demon.co.uk/ # ##############################################################

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One Smart Polack (Was: Students of Hitler)
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Vin Suprynowicz, vin(a)lvrj.com "A well-regulated population being necessary to the security of a police state, the right of the Government to keep and destroy arms shall not be infringed." http://www.nguworld.com/vindex/

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Alternative to MTB? (was Re: DigiCash issuers)
by Feanor Curufinwe 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sep 4, 14:17, Zooko Journeyman wrote: } Subject: DigiCash issuers > > Feanor wrote: > >There might be other reasons for this: have you looked at their _fees_??? > >Holy crap! That's the only reason I don't have an account. They're charging > >top dollar for every aspect of a system that has it's only overhead in > minimal > >amounts of CPU time. > > > You might be a bit behind the times on this issue. Recently > MTB announced new lower fees: http://www.marktwain.com/fee.html > > Are these the ones you consider excessive? No, actually, they're fine. Except that they penalize the merchant mroe than the customer, which I find stupid in a tech as new as this. > Note that if you consider the new fees to be reasonable, then > you are now obliged to open account as per your publically > posted exclamation quoted above. :-) Hrmm... Well, It appears I lied. Here's the _other_ reasons why might not still get an MTB account (although I might anyways, with some creative form filling): 1. Lack of real anonymity. Feh. Nuff said. 2. Cleint software. You should be able to do e-cash with e-mail if you want to. 3. Lack of code avalability. Although this is improving. 4. Chaumian blind signatures. OK, the guy's smart, but I've heard over and over again how much of a prick he is about liscencing. Liek a multiplication and subsequent division deserves a patent. Sheesh. I asked before, but no-one answered: Would any of you be interested in an e-cash that didn't have any of the points above working against it? Although, obviously, client softare could be writtent ot facilitate things. As I said before, the mint does not need to store identity-related info with the list of coins. With an e-mail based system and the remailers, you can be _sure_ this is not taking place. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQBVAwUBNA79jxkU7YRPCnEJAQFNQgIAwNJpK/NRKjtLM6z0kEzwxpHlhTxoj/WF XOZDZ3rXNfgs7oamptvRKa5+WXo3qzvqEQUk3BPKgaU8zhQuKW8LDw== =87LT -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Brute-force cracks, discovery, etc.
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

HotWired's "Hot Seat" interviewed two private investigators who consult doing hostile data recovery. Their comments are interesting, both in terms of illustrating what can (and can't) be recovered, and in terms of the scope of civil discovery which has become standard in civil disputes. A transcript is at <http://www.hotwired.com/synapse/hotseat/97/35/transcript2a.html>. -- Greg Broiles | US crypto export control policy in a nutshell: gbroiles(a)netbox.com | http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | Export jobs, not crypto.

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Big Brother is watching
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Yes, rest assured that Big Brother is watching. Three CopBots have been > deployed around the county to take pictures of vehicles exiting > intersections after the light has turned red. These CopBots are a great > boon to our prosperity and security as they free up the huminoid Cops from > traffic duties so that they can better spend their time toilet plunger > kicking. Yes, they love these in Germany too. Ways to combat: 1) Wax your license plate, especially the front one. 2) When you find one of these unattended critters along the road, wave your hand in front of it at amazing speeds until it runs out of film. (Ensure middle finger is extended.) 3) Wave a plunger in front of it at amazing speeds. Give the cops tens of alternating shots of your extended finger and plungers. 4) Assault the machine with a plunger. (Only if really mad.) -- FedPlunger

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Political News from Wired News
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/6605.html Senators Embrace Mandatory Data Keys by Wired News Staff 12:03pm 4.Sep.97.PDT In a major advance for hard-line proponents of giving the government wide access to electronic data, several influential senators have declared their support of mandatory key recovery features for all encryption-enabled software sold in the United States. At a Judiciary subcommittee meeting Wednesday, Senator Dianne Feinstein was among those who came out strongly in support of the position taken by FBI Director Louis Freeh that mandatory key recovery is essential to deterring crime. "Nothing other than some kind of mandatory key recovery really does the job," the California Democrat said at a hearing of the Senate Judiciary Committee's technology, terrorism, and government information subcommittee. "The public-safety issue is a paramount one." The subcommittee's chairman, Senator Jon Kyl (R-Arizona), added that he was "in complete agreement." The Clinton White House, like past administrations, have, along with major police and spy agencies, been strong supporters of such measures. But in Congress, sweeping measures to give government agents an easy-open back door to scrambled data have been met with strong opposition and legislation that cuts in the opposite direction. Bills in both the House and Senate have sought to exclude mandatory key recovery systems as a requirement not only for US software-makers and users but also for export products. The Senate version of this liberalized policy is, practically speaking, dead, supplanted by the Secure Public Networks Act by Senators Bob Kerrey (D-Nebraska) and John McCain (R-Arizona). The bill offers incentives to software manufacturers for building key recovery features into their products. In the House, a liberalization bill by Representative Bob Goodlatte (R-Virginia) is not only alive but has gained a majority of members as cosponsors. The software industry, civil liberties advocates, and privacy groups on both the right and the left have opposed mandatory key recovery. Some opponents were stunned by Wednesday's hearing. "It was really shocking to hear how casually senators and the FBI director talked about imposing domestic controls," said Alan Davidson, staff counsel at the Center for Democracy and Technology. "They've crossed a new line in this debate." "It appears that Senator Feinstein wants a Constitution- free zone for the Internet," said David Banisar, staff counsel at the Electronic Privacy Information Center. Reuters contributed to this report.

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clipper.csc.uvic.ca moved?
by nobody＠neva.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone know if clipper.csc.uvic.ca has moved to another location?

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