December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Cypherpunks Bay Area Meeting, This Satuday September 13th
by Hugh Daniel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

What: Cypherpunks September 1997 Bay Area Meeting When: Saturday September 13, 12 noon till 5pm Where: PGP World Headquarters, 2nd floor meeting room Bayview Bank Building, just south of Hwy. 92 2121 S. El Camino Real, San Mateo California http://www.pgp.com/pgpcorp/contactpgp.cgi#head Agenda: Forbes Article background, everyone Cypherpunks at HIP'97, Lucky Green, David Del Torto Ecash announcement, Jeremey Barrett, BlueMoney Software Corp. Linux Onion Router, Jeremey Barrett Diffie-Helman Free of Patent, ??? New FBI Anti-Crypto Bill, how to react, everyone Domain name conference report, John Gilmore Attacks on US remailers etc., Bill Stewart ??? After: Eat dinner somewhere yet to be decided... PGP Building Access: This is an Open Meeting on US Soil and it is free for anyone to attend. There is a minor building security formality due to the facilities being in a bank building: anytime after 12 noon, approach the Bayview Building's Information window (in the plaza, see below for directions), and ask the Guard on Duty to let you up to the 2nd Floor for the Cypherpunks meeting (use the passphrase "cypherpunks release code"). If you have any difficulty (eg. if the guard is on a break), simply call DDT at +1 415 730 3583 he I'll let you in. You can arrive at any time during the scheduled meeting hours, though earlier is better if you want to hear the interesting stuff.

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The problem of playing politics with our constitutional rights
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The Commerce Committee got a two-week extension from the Speaker... Now, is this good or bad news for crypto? Not sure if it's bad news, but it's far from necessarily good news. The Eavesdrop Establishment is swarming on Capitol Hill right now. The staff on Intelligence are jubilant. Goodlatte may be standing firm, based on what other journalists and his staff tells me, but other supposed friends of freedom (including one fellow who's a guest speaker at a forthcoming Cato conference) are talking about more crypto-in-a-crime restrictions. The Commerce Committee, I'm told, got briefed by Freeh in a closed-door hearing yesterday evening without staff present. This, as I've said for months, is the problem of playing politics with our constitutional rights. -Declan On Thu, 11 Sep 1997, Hiawatha Bray wrote: > Till when, Declan? And do you know why, perchance?

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Bean Counting
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

After giving careful consideration to the amount of press coverage dedicated to the bombing of the Oklahoma City Federal Building, and judging the proportion of outrage over the deaths of the children in the daycare center compared to the amount of outrage over the remaining victims, I have come to the conclusion that in the interests of saving lives terrorists and psychos should be encouraged to murder the youngest children possible. While my studies are preliminary, they indicate that terroists and madmen would only have to kill half as many people to achieve comparable results in the arena of publicity and public attention if they were to confine their slaughter to young children. This figure declines further if the children are white, and even further yet if they are cute. By promoting cute young white children as the target of preference for terroists and crazy people, we could save innumerable lives each and every year. Next Week: The role of Senior Citizens in slow check-out lines.

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Re: More on House Intelligence committee amendment on crypto
by Bill Frantz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 3:38 PM -0700 9/11/97, Declan McCullagh wrote: >So I'm reading through the 43-page amendment to SAFE that the House >Intelligence committee approved today. It includes:... They're really foaming at the mouth back in 'ol DC. Lets see: (1) Free speech is dead. c.f. Judge Pattel's opinion in the Burnstein case. (2) The right to a public trial is gone too. (3) The right to privacy is forgotten. Close those clinics. (4) If crypto is an armament, then the right to keep and bear it is gone. (But that right was already in tatters.) (5) The right to be safe from unreasonable search is gone if you can't challenge a search in the courts. (6) etc. etc. And over what is merely the practical application of some obscure mathematics, these turkeys are willing to trash the constitution they are sworn to support and defend. It would be really funny if it wasn't so grim. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | The Internet was designed | Periwinkle -- Consulting (408)356-8506 | to protect the free world | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | from hostile governments. | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: The problem of playing politics with our constitutional rights
by Syniker＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I still maintain... they can diddle one another all they want in washington... if ENOUGH people use crypto everyday... there's bascially not a damned thing they can do about it... If it becomes 'fashionable' to use it -- whatever it takes... the sheer numbers will work... Why not a 'crypto' YES WWW thing like our blackout pages??? If enough people put those perl lines on their hompage... there you are -- instant mass 'export'.... boom... Larry.

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Cypherpunks Bay Area Meeting, This Satuday September 13th
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 06:08:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh Daniel <hugh(a)ecotone.xanadu.com> To: cypherpunks-announce(a)toad.com Subject: Cypherpunks Bay Area Meeting, This Satuday September 13th Reply-to: hugh(a)xanadu.com What: Cypherpunks September 1997 Bay Area Meeting When: Saturday September 13, 12 noon till 5pm Where: PGP World Headquarters, 2nd floor meeting room Bayview Bank Building, just south of Hwy. 92 2121 S. El Camino Real, San Mateo California http://www.pgp.com/pgpcorp/contactpgp.cgi#head Agenda: Forbes Article background, everyone Cypherpunks at HIP'97, Lucky Green, David Del Torto Ecash announcement, Jeremey Barrett, BlueMoney Software Corp. Linux Onion Router, Jeremey Barrett Diffie-Helman Free of Patent, ??? New FBI Anti-Crypto Bill, how to react, everyone Domain name conference report, John Gilmore Attacks on US remailers etc., Bill Stewart ??? After: Eat dinner somewhere yet to be decided... PGP Building Access: This is an Open Meeting on US Soil and it is free for anyone to attend. There is a minor building security formality due to the facilities being in a bank building: anytime after 12 noon, approach the Bayview Building's Information window (in the plaza, see below for directions), and ask the Guard on Duty to let you up to the 2nd Floor for the Cypherpunks meeting (use the passphrase "cypherpunks release code"). If you have any difficulty (eg. if the guard is on a break), simply call DDT at +1 415 730 3583 he I'll let you in. You can arrive at any time during the scheduled meeting hours, though earlier is better if you want to hear the interesting stuff. --Lucky Green <shamrock(a)netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. DES is dead! Please join in breaking RC5-56. http://rc5.distributed.net/

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Different Ways to Serial Murder AOL Members' Children
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Different Ways to Serial Murder AOL Members' Children: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5.

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Any talk of limiting _existing_ crypto? (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 21:39:52 -0700 > From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> > Subject: Any talk of limiting _existing_ crypto? > If not, then our strategy should be to get the simpler, text-centric, > crypto programs massively and widely deployed. Spend the year or so we have > before D-Day getting crypto onto every CD-ROM being distributed, every > public domain site, etc. > > Integration with mailers and browsers may not even be such a good idea, as > the evolution of such products will cause obsolescence. Better, perhaps, to > leave the crypto at the "text edit" level, the ASCII level, where it can be > dropped in cleanly to whatever program is current. (Also an old strategy, > one with many advantages.) How about the system file i/o level? ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Different Ways Polly Klaas Could Have Been Killed
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Different Ways Polly Klaas Could Have Been Killed: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5.

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