December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Financial Latency noise
by liberty＠gate.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- There is no way for both of you to get in the last word, so allow me. You're both right. Now please, make it stop! JMR - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Freedom isn't Freeh iQCVAwUBMBrnCW1lp8bpvW01AQESGgP/Vtfym5YJh7lNUd2wWRNvFnS+mmHwWE6X DyVMPZ089YBqkxJUiXd74TyIVuoO90FiCMi6GbcRS9QziZRcVtl71hNdQb/IB62G 31kHa6n6rCzyrfdxN7NnZ/3MJh0bY+kK2hh2YK0tPjcT9o9ab/8OIp8XyukvdFbx N4QYIxIBgXw= =gwXi - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Regards, Jim Ray "This year or next, for the first time since the end of World War II, we will spend more for interest payments on the debt than on defense. Quite a stunning thing." -- President Bill Clinton "I'm sure as hell stunned!" -- citizen Jim Ray - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PGP key Fingerprint 51 5D A2 C3 92 2C 56 BE 53 2D 9C A1 B3 50 C9 C8 Key id. # E9BD6D35 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Support the Phil Zimmermann (Author of PGP) Legal Defense Fund! email: zldf(a)clark.net or visit http://www.netresponse.com/zldf ________________________________________________________________________ - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBMBrnySoZzwIn1bdtAQFXLAGAqpniQwKB+kSjyyzJYmppOE2nKv69k3QK ZdENdZKGTq2wxEiqAyAMCb4qStYeXUCP =v2Yv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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CMOS
by monty.harder＠famend.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

O > stored? How much space is in the "memory" of CMOS? Typically, on the order of 64 bytes. YMMV. * Forrest Gump of Borg: Assimilation is =not= like a box of chocolates.... --- * Monster(a)FAmend.Com *

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Mail2news Gates
by kdf＠gigo.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

futplex(a)pseudonym.com wrote in a message to John Erland: fp> John Erland writes: > Can someone send me a list of functioning mail-2-news gates? fp> You asked this before (on June 4) and I answered (on June fp> 21), but I take it you weren't reading the list then. I specifically mentioned that I had but intermittant access to the list, but I believe I got the answer netmail. Unfortunately, it is already outdated, which is why I am asking again. fp> Briefly, Matt Ghio's list is the only publicly announced fp> list I've found -- the pertinent Usenet FAQs point solely to fp> his list. mailto:mg5n+remailers@andrew.cmu.edu for the fp> current list. Coolio. Just the thing! fp> I don't know how much Matt's been updating it, but I have fp> yet to find an alternative. I hope he does it fairly frequently, as these gates seem to have a half-life of about fifteen minutes. @news.demon.co.uk was one of the old standbys that seemed to be stable, but it appears to have locked us all out now. Thanks for the address! --- timEd 1.01 -- : Fidonet: John Erland 1:203/8055.12 .. speaking for only myself. : Internet: kdf(a)gigo.com

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Re: Crypto Law Survey
by dani.goldenholz＠vircomm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thanks man!

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SIN_not
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

7-30-95. NYPaper: "His Terrible Swift Sword: Thomas Sowell takes the shortest way with left-liberal elites." [Book Review] His stated mission is to attack and destroy the dominant intellectual elites of modern America: those liberal and left-wing intellectuals whose disproportionate control over the American psyche he believes responsible for the drift, stagnation and disquiet of our times. The anointed, as he dubs them with ill-concealed derision, have the right degrees and clubby credentials, but tbeir false sense of noblesse oblige and their inordinate faith in their own intelligence and probity blind them to the cautious, decentralized and incremental logic of markets. In consequence, they unwisely embrace huge government interventions to end a set of social "crises" that never existed. They have expanded civil liability beyond recognition. They have led the civil rights movement away from equal opportunity and individual merit into the bottomless pit of affirmative action and minority set-asides. They have wrecked the criminal justice system and have licensed judges to stray from judicial restraint into the lawless world of judicial activism. NIF_pig "N.R.A. Criticized for Aggressive Tactics: Against the A.T.F." The National Rifle Association has entered an aggressive new phase in its long and contentious relationship with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Opponents of the N.R.A., as well as some of its longtime supporters, say some of the organization's tactics have crossed ethical boundaries and may well have backfired, reinforcing an image of the group as dominated by right-wing zealots. NAW_leg Duet: SIN_not

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Re: Encrypted Telnet
by uSuRa 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ed Carp sez: : On Sun, 30 Jul 1995, Flame Remailer wrote: : : > Announcing CryptoTCP beta version 0.9 [..] : Oh, thanks a lot - tell us everything except where to get it... ftp://utopia.hacktic.nl/pub/crypto/ -- Alex de Joode Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt, Inc.

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Re: You asked for it...4/5
by Alex de Joode 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I did only receive picture number 4, the others never showed up. -- Alex de Joode Fear Uncertainty and Doubt, Inc.

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Encrypted Telnet
by Flame Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Announcing CryptoTCP beta version 0.9 CTCP is a public domain software package to do encrypted TCP sessions on unix systems. It features Diffie-Hellman key exchange with triple-DES encryption. This initial release is to be considered a beta version. Bug reports or comments on security issues are invited. Features: - May be installed by any user on the system and does not require root privileges. - Server can protect all TCP-based services (mail, news, web, etc.) - Includes a secure telnet client. - A random key is chosen for each session, so sessions can not be decrypted later or replayed. - Source code is available and in the public domain. - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.71828 mQCNAjAalD0AAAEEAMBUTOJHpIlIkK+bHYlOvt36k6szaJE9QgygMmtTlWKpDRZA aKT4LaFKdB9trS5zUCBan55Gg+3Yj0MItwoS+8B+x9IpCizFsaymOhpt75a59kFY 935ozxxAs6GCziXb1BiCDz07OVE5X10QCa8lz9ZvDrt0X1iLk/32LDYerV6NAAUT tCBNYXVkZSBYIDxhbHQuYW5vbnltb3VzLm1lc3NhZ2VzPg== =WP49 - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Detached signature for ctcp.0.9.tar: - -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.71828 iQCVAgUAMBqiPf32LDYerV6NAQHUoAP/RLU0mM3ydxC9vjzay8hR5Qmb5zupHyCO klW8IYjxIt14jnBTqkVM7q+mnaAWK2Ishppe14H5K6MAn/VOe2o5Hf61wAzJuxzw wywiA9ZOdb+2cxm86YMgdbrnv430BCbSjPITV5PHyorovSqhX4RLLB1R8oOX4WUB 5WwzgLyV6Kc= =ltvK - -----END PGP MESSAGE----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.71828 iQCVAgUBMBqp7f32LDYerV6NAQHBhAP9FTq0XIlPOcd5EqtAEQISFQkZ2ISZCwQi u4Kfpfp8xv435dBVO22Awc1R8FxgsWab7x/98CTMkKtTCtz5P30xVECfrYJP4aDF aTEZTdBQZzx/NsozqmdhZSh7uuuS5h4IQCZWwG+dgexFZzgXYdw7+e/IIoJfo2pZ bk5/Y1u3HGI= =d5iJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Experimental Ecash Market
by Rev. Mark Grant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

For those who want to buy and sell ecash for real cash, there's now an experimental Ecash Market WWW page at : http://www.c2.org/~mark/ecash/ecash.html You can submit an offer to add to the lists of buyers and sellers for free (though if people start submitting fake offers I may charge for it in future), or buy the email address of a buyer or seller for c$ 0.50. Since I'm still in the process of finishing off the software, the site may go up and down, or simply get dodgy, over the next few weeks. Mark

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Re: Zimmermann legal fund
by nsb＠nsb.fv.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Nathaniel Borenstein <nsb(a)nsb.fv.com> writes on cpunks: >The URL being used is http://www.netresponse.com/zldf, and nowhere >does it mention using PGP and CC #'s. Most people who can't use PGP >aren't going to be interested I would have thought. Actually, I think you're wrong on that score. I've met quite a few people who understand the importance of the principles involved, and who support Phil's caue wholeheartedly, but who have never even tried to learn PGP (never felt the need, I guess). However, I agree that the pages should at least contain a link to the other ZLDF site, which mentions how to use PGP and credit card numbers. >Okay, now separate issue, really talking about FV now. For me, the >main thing holding me back from using it is that I'm not in the US, >and don't have a US bank account to open a FV seller acct. (I would >have liked to use it as one of the few net payment systems actually up >and running, as a payment method for the RSA T-shirts, it would have >been a nice system, allowing me to effectively accept VISA payments >which I have otherwise been unable to do.) > >Any news on this front? Last I looked on your WWW page, you were >investigating this and payments in other currencies. US$ would be >fine though, as long as it was possible for the seller to create a US >account, or have it paid to a non-US account (would it not be possible >to pay to non-US account?). Of course it's possible, and it's definitely something we intend to do *eventually*. The real question is how hard it is, and how high-priority it is. We're trying to do a zillion things at once, as you can imagine. To pay into non-US accounts, we need to establish banking relationships in other venues. For the most part, we need to do it one country at a time, which is awesomely time-consuming (although there may be some shortcuts, e.g. to do all of Europe at once). However, it is worth noting that we DO have non-US sellers already. Remember, the requirement is not that you be in the US, but rather than you have an account in a US bank. This is not all that hard for a non-US citizen to do **IF** you can show up physically at a US bank. Thus, if there's a US bank that has an office near you, you can walk in and open an account to which deposits can be made through the US direct-deposit system, and you're in business with FV. What we'd really hoped to have up and running by now, as a short-term expedient, was an expedited mechanism whereby non-US people could open accounts at a US bank by mail, without the physical presence. This turns out to be contrary to a lot of established procedures in the US banking world, so we're still looking for a bank that's willing to set up this kind of expedited procedure for account setup. If and when we get that working, we will certainly be announcing the availability of that service on fv-users and similar venues. (I probably won't announce it on cypherpunks, since I think many people already think FV is too-much-discussed here. My intent with FV on cypherpunks is to only talk about FV in contexts where it is directly relevant, in particular when other people bring it up.) -- Nathaniel

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