December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Randomness of a bit string
by nobody＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I remember one of those MENSA-type tests where your were supposed to find the pattern in a set of numbers. One of the strings were the stops of a NY City subway line!

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4th ammendment and Cryptography
by Roy Franz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello all, I am considering writing a research paper on how the constitution will hold up in light of rapidly changing technology and the use of it. The main issue I plan on addressing is the right to privacy. My concern is that I will not be able to find enough "scholaly works" that address this issue. I know that opinions abound, but I am in need of citeable sources. Any ideas? Has much been published on this issue? Thanks, Roy ----------------------------------------------------------- Roy B. Franz rbfranz(a)ucdavis.edu Software Engineer Viewgraphics, Inc

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Re: 4th ammendment and Cryptography
by Phil Karn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I presume you are not a lawyer or law student. (Neither am I.) Therefore I would start with a couple of books on the Constitution and Bill of Rights that were written for general audiences to get a feel for how they've been applied in real cases, to set a backdrop for what you want to talk about. Two recommendations: "In Our Defense - The Bill of Rights in Action", Ellen Alderman and Caroline Kennedy [yes, *that* Caroline Kennedy], Morrow, ISBN 0-688-07801-X. "May It Please The Court", Peter Irons, ed. (Book with optional cassettes). Narrated excerpts from actual audio recordings of important Supreme Court cases since 1955. I don't have the ISBN number because I've since given this to my dad. Very well done. Phil

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Re: subpoenas of personal papers
by greg＠ideath.goldenbear.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Chris Knight <uunet!crl.com!cknight> writes: > [quoting Phil Karn] > > There was a flurry of laws during the 1970s that extended somewhat > > similar privileges to reporters and their sources, but they don't seem > > to have held up very well since the Big Lurch to the Right. > > As I mentioned in the second paragraph of my original letter (The one you > didn't quote in your reply), I stated that those cases didn't hold > against reporters because of constutional backing (i.e. Freedom of the > Press). A protection which we do not have, unless you happen to publish. That constitutional backing is of questionable value - Rik Scarce (author of the book "Ecowarriors") recently spent months in jail in Washington State for refusing to reveal, to a federal grand jury, the whereabouts of a person he interviewed for a book about animal rights activists. He was released because a federal appellate court was convinced that holding him longer wouldn't make him reveal the information sought. - -- Greg Broiles "Sometimes you're the windshield, greg(a)goldenbear.com sometimes you're the bug." -- Mark Knopfler -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.4 iQCVAgUBLUYrNn3YhjZY3fMNAQGoPAP/W9ScBEcSeIFQ+ZKljRIyYGS9pV/vghEe EVTIBdmx9PQSwDTTIZITcApcr8vwdyGP3gzLghXfWDfYQz5ZhWlt7W8bgzZlBb3x geUVnSovXwWGqse2ZwlFEZrc8t1YfJcjYYktarhOFSl7Ko/K8ETEEY8zPaOLuRaM /5KygvnmWRc= =m1yI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Free US Patent Searches! [REPOST]
by trestrab＠GVSU.EDU 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re:quote of the day
by an56238＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Carl_Ellison(a)vos.stratus.com writes: > > Only those means of security are good, are > certain, are lasting, that depend on yourself > and your own vigor. > - Machiavelli > That reminds me of my first reaction to CypherPunks: why would the government spend thousands of $$$ of supercomputer time & mathematician brains to see your miserable piece of information, when all they have to do is lock you up at the back of a countryside garage, beat the shit out of you, inject various chemicals into your blood until you spit out your secret key ? That was a bit harsh, but, going back to the essentials, a crypto system is as weak as its weakest link, isn'it ? Now that we've got them pgp, RSA and IDEA and whatnot, fine, we've built a 20 inches thick steel chain around our little secrets. Except that this marvelous piece of technology is held together with a hair strand: your brain. Where you key is kept, and where everybody assumes it's safe. Isn't time we take a look at another kind of cryptographic attack, the ancestor of which bore the delicate name of penthotal ? Nobody ever speaks of them chemicals that make you talk. But they exist, and as well as cryptography techniques developed fast recently, trust the government, those chemicals must have made a few advances. Like, for example making you tell what you don't want to and then make you forget about anybody asking. Or maybe I watch too many serials. Does anybody have informations about state of the art tell-us-you-story-pills ? - -zap -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCUAgUBLUX4+Sk+9PttYUp1AQEnsAP1GzsaUC6iMSM9g1HJPh15ygqYgwdHVce5 L90Z9k6VB5+WBseUMKMEE2RJkGTa1aXZPZR5JEcQeLoHV4yu4wb3u43GmJIib1w1 05GN4Y+2E+S33XY58LNaQksJjliOKI+6t9UksW8xkDdyKr2u62Lw/3Oh2YhZblJL GkVqQidrRg== =r75G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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Re: Curve Encrypt 1.0 Release Announcement
by edgar＠spectrx.saigon.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Will Kenney posted: Curve Encrypt 1.0, IDEA encryption for the Macintosh is now available for ftp from ripem.msu.edu, directory: ... Distribution: Curve Encrypt (c)1994 Curve Software. Permission granted for distribution within the United States only. It's fine with me if you make the software available by giving it to your friends, putting it on _local_ BBS's, taping floppies to stalls in the men's room, things like that. But don't export the software, and don't make it available on places like international anonymous ftp sites. And please make sure that the people you give the software to understand the export restrictions. This applies the application and the source and anything that _contains_ Curve Software copyrighted source. Is this sufficiently clear to keep me from getting Swanked? You need have no concern about Swank himself since he is not interested in Macintosh software. It should protect you from being "Swanked" (thank you for making a verb out of my name; a rare honor) by others -if- you independently wrote all the code. But if you copied, for example, the IDEA code from a copylefted product like PGP or SecureDrive then the copyleft applies to your entire product; at least that's my understanding. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLUWy3N4nNf3ah8DHAQGBvwP/XMRhqOr8OSOj5IHWMdRD0k8yi9bXDU+T 3oI3sSmshLSl3VRj9FRX4c6ZqUGFt6T10PWxN5Hc2/prkdx6Cvn2XnY9rejZ7F+2 aEJ2lUtXnAASm07BS7mCPzSZyyYR2THVLQVZapj5YSY+mybhYX5fRpOrOcUxwNH5 ZS7MB1gLOcU= =inso -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- edgar(a)spectrx.saigon.com (Edgar W. Swank) SPECTROX SYSTEMS +1.408.252.1005 Cupertino, Ca

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unsubscribe
by smm＠engr.uark.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

please remove me from the list. There is still TOO much traffic to read. thanx, steve

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Examples of Digital cash in use
by Aviel David Rubin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am compiling a list of places that are actually using digital cash. If anyone knows of current implementations, or of any plans that will probably be implemented, can you please send me the info.? Thanks a lot.

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Re: Randomness of a bit string
by m5＠vail.tivoli.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jim Thompson writes: > its a joke, you didn't get it, or Ray's bought into > the biggest joke of 2 years hence. No, it was a joke, and I'm just ignorant. Duhh. Thanks to everybody who sent mail and didn't call me an idiot. -- | GOOD TIME FOR MOVIE - GOING ||| Mike McNally <m5(a)tivoli.com> | | TAKE TWA TO CAIRO. ||| Tivoli Systems, Austin, TX: | | (actual fortune cookie) ||| "Like A Little Bit of Semi-Heaven" |

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