December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: The BIG Lie (Jesus Confesses)
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:16 PM 8/10/97 +1000, you wrote: >Is it worth noting at this point that an evangilical Christian and the >religious right have little in common. Evangelicals (I'm one) belive the >Bible to be the word of God etc.. but don't add anythign else to it and >certianly wouldn't force thier beliefs down your throat. They would Well, most evangelists don't force things down your throat. They try to convince you to send them money to "Help" The Almighty (TM)'s cause. Usually, that money is spent on porno mags, hookers, and booze. >I would also have a problem with Christians controlling and censoring the >net. I would welcome (and do welcome) sites that which to argue against >Christianity. What wrong with that ?? It simply provides a forum for >Christians to defend thier beliefs. Besides if I censor you now because i >find your content un acceptable whats to stop you censoring me later when >your in the majority ! What utter stupidity to load the gun for others. >Particularly as i am a Christian I WOULD be critical of some of the >religious rights ideas and agendas and would happily argue from the Bible >that they are not a good thing. > Too many Christians try to censor atheist site because it defies their Almighty God (TM), and somehow clouds others views. >I thought school pray was outlawed in the states ?? mandatory prayer was. >> I have known far too many Christians who never read anything that >> challenges their basic belief structure. Nothing that could dare shake >> their faith in God and the Bible. In their isolation, they are taught to >> believe ideas that have no rational defense. (Like Biblical inerrancy and >> Creationism.) When challenged, these outcasts from reason have to rely on >> the "moral authority" of their unseen God or other appeals to authority to >> try and defend their irrational beliefs. > >Christians whould read challenging stuff. IT expands thier mind and >strengthens thier beliefs (Well i find it does), and in my expirence a >Christian who cant defend thier faith needs to learn more. Although i >would disagree with dismissing creationism and Biblical inerrancey. (not >that is is an appropriate forum for such a discussion) Bullshit. Most Christians I see IRL and on TV cringe at books other than The Good Book(TM). Creationism is bullshit, God didn't make everything in 7 days, we evolved from monkeys and various others (Although many half-evolved monkeys can be seen on TV Evangelism shows and in Congress). In order to believe in something, I need some hard facts. I need to actually see a god (while I'm sober) talk to me and I talk back and see him actually makes things. Unlike some of the weaker people, I can't just believe it because "anything's possible". I can't believe it because a minister or a book tells me. When I was around 8 years, I read this section of the bible asking questions like (it was in the back) "How do we know the bible is true?" I was intersted, reading further, I noticed some page numbers, so I went there, finding not words of a scientist, but supposed words of god. If god supposedly asked people to write this, and he says it's true, then that's called bullshit, because that's like someone writing a crypto algorithm, and stating it's secure even though no one else has seen it. In short, unless I see it for myself, I won't believe it fully. In religions case, at all.

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5881.html
by Damaged Justice 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[1][Masthead] [] [2][Navigation bar] [3][Stocks] __________ ______________ [4][Search] [5][WIRED magazine] Matt Richtel --> [] [6][Back] He Tries to Draw Legal Borders in Cyberspace by [7]Matt Richtel 5:04am 11.Aug.97.PDT In one of the first undercover stings ever run on the Internet, Missouri Attorney General Jeremiah "Jay" Nixon in late June handed an 18-year-old intern a credit card and sat her down in front of a computer terminal. According to court records, the intern visited the World Wide Web site of [8]Hog's Head Beer Cellars of Greensboro, North Carolina. She succeeded in ordering a 12-pack of microbrews, which were duly delivered. Then Nixon swung into action. He filed a lawsuit against Hog's Head, alleging that the company had not asked for a driver's license number from the intern or taken other steps to prevent a minor from purchasing alcohol. "There was no mention on the Web site that you have to be of age," Nixon said. "It's safe to say that any establishment in the state of Missouri [that similarly served drinks to minors] would lose their license." Co-owner Jim Lowe concedes that Hog's Head lacked an age-checking mechanism when Nixon sicced the minor on him, and says that shortcoming has been remedied by requiring customers to fax a signed waiver form and copy of their drivers' license to get an order processed. Protecting sovereignty, defining borders Nixon's beef is not, however, merely about selling alcohol to minors. He speaks of protecting the sovereignty of states and of maintaining order in the increasingly borderless world created by the Net. His targets say, not surprisingly, that he has another agenda, too: waving the flag of supposed cyberspace lawlessness to win votes for his 1998 US Senate campaign. "He's using this as a political springboard," said Lowe. "People are emailing us saying: Doesn't the AG have anything better to do than surf the Internet?" Over the past three months, Nixon has made an increasingly visible effort to crack down on what he alleges are illegal businesses run by Web-based firms. He has twice sued online gambling businesses, in one case winning a fine. Nixon said that he has taken a tough stand on the issues, particularly in the case of Internet gaming, because the federal government has dropped the ball on regulation. "We're going to have to, as 50 different states, get very, very active that the protections afforded our constituents continue," Nixon said, adding that in the case of gaming, "The federal government has basically been AWOL." Interference with commerce? Legal entanglements aside, Lowe said he has a bigger problem with Nixon's approach. Instead of trying to clarify how the law might operate in cyberspace, Nixon is actually interfering with Internet-based commerce. And Lowe numbers himself among the growing number of merchants that feel they need the Internet to compete. Meanwhile, Nixon finds himself fighting perhaps more visible cases with two gaming businesses on the Internet. In April, he filed a lawsuit against Interactive Gaming & Communications Corp., accusing the Pennsylvania company of setting up a casino that violates Missouri gaming laws and fails to caution citizens of the Show Me state that what the site promotes is against the law. Nixon won an initial victory in May, when a court ordered Interactive Gaming to pay $66,050 in penalties and costs. Nixon said the firm refused to pay or to back down. So in June, he asked the grand jury in Springfield to indict Interactive Gaming president Michael Simone. In what is believed to be the first criminal indictment of its kind in the nation, the grand jury handed down a charge of promoting gambling in the first degree, a Missouri Class D felony that could carry a five-year prison sentence and $5,000 fine for Simone and a $10,000 fine for his company. Interactive Gaming's attorney, Lawrence Elliott Hirsch of Philadelphia, said in a statement that Missouri has no jurisdiction over them. "Michael Simone has never set foot within the state of Pennsylvania," said Hirsch. "Mr. Nixon should not be permitted to be a super-regulator/legislator of activities conducted lawfully on the Internet." Nixon's response was cool. "Missouri law makes only narrow exception for legal gambling, and the Internet is not one of those exceptions," he said. Battling a tribal lottery Nixon is also embroiled in a dispute with Idaho's Coeur d'Alene Indians. Early this summer, he filed suit to prevent the tribe from offering its Web-based US Lottery game in Missouri. As in the Interactive Gaming case, Nixon alleges that the Coeur d'Alene are violating Missouri law - this time because they have not received permission to operate a lottery. Uncertainty about who really has jurisdiction over Indian gambling complicates the case. The 1988 federal Indian Gaming Regulatory Act permits tribes to establish casinos on their land, with the permission of their home-state governments. The Coeur d'Alene argue that since they have permission from Idaho, and since the Net lottery is run exclusively on their land, they should be able to offer it anywhere they please. "All the gaming is happening on Indian land - the server is there, the random drawing is there, the game itself is played there, the customer service is there, the cash account is there," said Mike Yacenda, president of Unistar Entertainment, a Connecticut company that manages the Coeur d'Alene lottery. "This is the only legal lottery site on the Internet." David Matheson, chief executive officer for gaming for the Coeur d'Alene, accuses Missouri of trying to keep the tribe down. "You can stand in their lines and buy their lottery tickets," he said. "They're trying to make us a poster child for their political games." The legal nature of the Net Nixon's stance on the Coeur d'Alene puts him at odds with the many who argue that efforts to legislate Net activity - whether the subject is gambling, pornography, spam, or taxation - is doomed to failure because of the network's diffuse global nature. But the attorney general doesn't buy any of that. He said there's a big difference between Missouri's legal gaming, such as on riverboats, and the intrusions from the outside. He argues that Internet-based casinos are merely trying to excuse unregulated activity on the specious basis that technology makes everything different. Or that when an activity is legal in one area - for example, a reservation - it should be universally legal because of the Internet. Nixon said if that's the case, other states or countries will use the Net to import activities or substances that are illegal in Missouri but legal in their place of origin. That gets to what Nixon said is his larger point: Some Internet businesses are threatening Missouri's sovereignty and someone needs to "draw a line." "If we don't draw these lines," he said, "then there are no lines." Find related stories from the Web's top news sites with [9]NewBot [10][Back] [11][Navigation strip] [12]Rants & Raves: Send your rants and raves to Wired News. [13]Tips: Have a story or tip for Wired News? Send it. [14]Copyright © 1993-97 Wired Ventures Inc. and affiliated companies. All rights reserved. [15][HotWired and HotBot] [] [] [16]Oracle [Politics] POLITICS Today's Headlines [17]Info Watchdogs Challenge FBI Wiretap Plan [18]Amid Cycling Uproar, Evidence Goes Online [19]He Tries to Draw Legal Borders in Cyberspace [20]ACLU: Labeling May Lead to Lost Liberty [21]Scans: Spinning the FCC [22]Invitation to a Beheading [23]Oracle References 1. LYNXIMGMAP:http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/5881.html#masthead… 2. 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17 Dec '03

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Forged headers
by travel23＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone know of a URL where you can get information on how to forge headers and email addresses? The Traveler ----------------------------- "Sometimes you're the bug, sometimes you're the windshield."

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Re: Eternity Uncensorable?
by John Kelsey 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- [ To: cypherpunks(a)algebra.com, Wei Dai ## Date: 08/08/97 10:37 pm ## Subject: Re: Eternity Uncensorable? ] >Subject: Re: Eternity Uncensorable? >To: Cypherpunks Lite <cp-lite(a)comsec.com> >From: Wei Dai <weidai(a)eskimo.com> >Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 11:33:55 -0700 (PDT) >I suggest using information dispersal to spread risk amongst >remailer operators. Use Rabin's information dispersal technique >to divide up a document into n shares such that k of them can >reconstruct the original, and post each share via a seperate >remailer. It would be hard for the government to single out an >operator to go after since an individual share by itself is >useless. I'm a little concerned with the usefulness of this idea in a legal sense. Imagine the physical analogue: Alice buys the guns and masks, and leaves them in a pre-arranged place. Bob anonymously buys a car and leaves it, with the keys inside, in another pre-arranged place. Carol and Dave collect the guns, masks, and the car, and use them to rob a bank or hijack an airplane. Do you suppose the feds will have any problem prosecuting Alice and Bob for their part in the conspiracy? >If n>k this also increases reliability and resilience of the >eternity service against technical attacks. This part is somewhat more useful. However, n copies of the message are probably better. I think the general problem here is unsolveable--running an Eternity server is just going to be a dangerous thing to do if you live somewhere where the police are likely to see possessing, distributing, or selling some of the information on it as a crime. There are two possible solutions I can see: Either make Eternity servers so widespread that taking down individual servers in individual jurisdictions is futile, or find some jurisdictions where virtually *nothing* will provoke the police to act. (Note that legal jurisdiction isn't the only issue here. Some groups may be willing to use terrorist tactics to shut down these servers.) Note: Please respond via e-mail as well as or instead of posting, as I get CP-LITE instead of the whole list. --John Kelsey, kelsey(a)counterpane.com PGP 2.6 fingerprint = 4FE2 F421 100F BB0A 03D1 FE06 A435 7E36 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM/ChJUHx57Ag8goBAQFTdwP/cX/+SsXEkjmSrTYcvSBP9bHsAzRcXs+z FmPIq1dd9T7Mm6tlJGe8iC4lXmpm4JVqhmZMTGoJlkw6ld1MWGiOevpDWhycpAPQ 6ohDd/R2G3dRHkWCvPklyeKQx3v8GfWAhPrupJZNNAUCIJqDMlg6kJQv4BDiEukr G7C89qeaXqA= =WXLf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --John Kelsey, Counterpane Systems, kelsey(a)counterpane.com PGP 2.6 fingerprint = 4FE2 F421 100F BB0A 03D1 FE06 A435 7E36

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Dept. of Commerce Forum on CAs
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 12:17:40 -0700 Reply-To: Digital Signature discussion <DIGSIG(a)VM.TEMPLE.EDU> Sender: Digital Signature discussion <DIGSIG(a)VM.TEMPLE.EDU> From: "John D. Muller" <jmuller(a)BROBECK.COM> Subject: Dept. of Commerce Forum on CAs To: DIGSIG(a)VM.TEMPLE.EDU The Department of Commerce has started to build up a Web site with content from its request for comment and July 24 forum on public certification authorities. Public comments submitted electronically are now online at http://csrc.nist.gov/ecforum. John Muller jmuller(a)brobeck.com --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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Guy Polis
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

'punks, There's a crackpot by the name of Guy Polis (guy(a)panix.com, polis_guy@ jpmorgan.com) who posts a crackpot "cryptographic manifesto" and sounds like a bad troll intended to make the folks who promote the use of crypto look like, well, crackpots. Be warned. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Re: List of crypto-related courses
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text X-Sender: tnh(a)nepop.mediaone.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 16:35:22 -0400 To: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> From: "Timothy N. Hill" <tnh(a)acm.org> Subject: Re: List of crypto-related courses Cc: dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu, Avi Rubin <rubin(a)research.att.com> Sender: bounce-dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Timothy N. Hill" <tnh(a)acm.org> At 14:51 -0400 97-08-12, Robert Hettinga wrote: >--- begin forwarded text > > >From: Avi Rubin <rubin(a)research.att.com> >... > > http:/www.cs.ny.edu/~rubin/courses.html Make that <http://www.cs.nyu.edu/~rubin/courses.html> ^ ^ - Tim Timothy N. Hill <tnh(a)acm.org> "Let me tell you something, son, Wellesley, Massachusetts, USA Before you get much older. <http://tnh.ne.mediaone.net/> You cannot hit the ball, my friend, PGP 3FAA C8B3 D7BB 9C93 882E With the bat upon your shoulder." 4221 2F66 EFF4 00C6 CF92 - Bill "Lord" Byron, The Singing Umpire For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "dcsb-request(a)ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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Re: HIP hip hooray
by Mark Grant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Zooko Journeyman (zooko(a)xs4all.nl) wrote: >HIP rocked. I'm still trying to adjust to the mundanity >of everyday life. I loved meeting some cpunks in Real >Life. Hey, Zooko! You were the only Cypherpunk who made the article in the 'Independent' (by that blonde reporter who was wandering around), though Lucky Green was mentioned by name. '"[hacking] can be a wonderful thing", explained Zooco, a member of the CypherPunks. "Pretty much every useful aspect of modern computing was devised by hackers -- like the Internet and email."' So did she spell your name wrong, or were you using a pseudonym ;-) ? Mark

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by mornings＠concentric.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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