December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: HOUDINI ON CRYPTO
by blancw＠accessone.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Sandy Sandfort . . . there is a section about Houdini's fascination with cryptography. He talks about relatively primative substitution ciphers and the like. One example, though, I thought might be of interest to Cypherpunks. He said the following inscription was written over the Decalogue in a country church. Apparently, no one was able to read it for over 200 years. Can you?: PRSRVYPRFCTMNVRKPTHSPRCPTSTN .................................... It looks to be something like this to me: PRESERVE YE PERFECT MEN ?VR? KEEP THIS PERCEPT (or PRECEPT) SATAN .. Blanc

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Re: Something occured to me
by us009440＠interramp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 10:54 PM 07/22/95, Lucky Green wrote: > >In article <199507221725.NAA18382(a)bb.hks.net>, jburrell(a)crl.com ("Jason >Burrell") wrote: > >>The pity, of course, is that we can't get Exon for passing around a book >>that he said contained child pornography, since he's immune while he's on >>the Senate floor. > >Wouln't the book become part of the Congressional Record? I'd love to know >what Exon considers child pornography. > It would seem to me that, while the book may become part of the Congressional record, the contents will somehow be redacted. After all, isn't redacting the number one hobby in D.C.? Regards, Fred -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMBJh0VSU4cVs4SvxAQGxPwQApiNjMcn+3V9fA5kDdt3+AduGR2zyzl7X vcIiJBC/yHQas9d26sW6dJw+EFgF1pOhRBvUARGApgRjESU5amrNXfnEtr3kGUAM lHkQ475mnNorQeALUgPvdpFJ6QsZLKBZ3oakKj7C+jlzSO55XCmSIaOwTXvdD3Tj sq9a+KcJD9M= =E16K -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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OVR_byt
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

7-23-95. NYPaper "True Believers Gather To Honor White Race: Aryans Open Annual Congress in Idaho. Angry outbursts, and an increasing focus on Hitler and Nazi ideals." White supremacists from around the country and Canada gathered here this weekend for the Aryan World Congress, an annual celebration of the white race and anti-Semitism. The congress is being held at a time when Federal lawmakers are pushing to learn more about white supremacists, paramilitary organizations and other fringe right-wing groups following the Oklahoma City bombing. NAZ_raz "The Unending Search for Demons In the American Imagination. Pick a villain. The Jesuits? The arms makers? The U.N.? Or maybe you like Ike." Today's militia members aren't the first to warn that plots are eating at America. There's a familiar ring to much of their fear. A vast array of Cassandras echo through American history. Through the centuries the vlllains of the pieces have shifted -- from Masons to Catholics to Jews, for example -- but the alleged plots also have a lot in common: a foreign (or otherwise alien) connection, a tie to big money, a secret organization more powerful than any state. IFU_knu "Attack of the Cyberthieves, and Other Assaults." Cyberthis. Cyberthat. Could it all be cyberhell? As we venture through the digital gates into information heaven, it might be wise to recall earthly matters. Like theft, for starters. NFO_rip Tri-Lat: OVR_byt

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Re: Cyberporn on NPR today
by lethin＠ai.mit.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>But I expect it to focus on the technology questions, not the shrill >"Save our children from the plague..." hysteria. Only two callers through, first one should have hung up when he heard all of his arguments made (better) in the first half hour. Second caller asked whether the Pynchon mailing list he's on would have to censor itself if the Exon ammendment passed (seemed a decent point - succinct too). The rest of the time was the same old political debate with a few moments about Surfwatch. Equal time given to the opposition, who spoke about the horrors of unspeakable besiality, rape, etc. -- --- Concurrent VLSI Arch. Group 545 Technology Sq., Rm. 610 MIT AI Lab Cambridge, MA 02139 (617)-253-0972

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NOISE: advice on applications
by Allen Robinson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've just recently set up a PPP account, mainly so I could run Netscape. I'm thinking of adding PC Eudora for mail. Any advice on a good newsreader and any other applications it would be handy to have? Thanks. AR [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one." - Thomas Paine, _Common Sense_ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Allen Robinson..................................sebaygo(a)intellinet.com PGP public key AD022AA9 fingerprint 5A3BC05B2EC67724 F5664A20AEEAB07A

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Re: HOUDINI ON CRYPTO
by Robert A. Rosenberg 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 23:53 7/22/95, Samuel Kaplin wrote: >On Sat, 22 Jul 1995, Sandy Sandfort wrote: > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> SANDY SANDFORT >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> >> C'punks, >> >> Blanc wrote: >> >> >> PRSRVYPRFCTMNVRKPTHSPRCPTSTN >> > .................................... >> > >> > It looks to be something like this to me: >> > >> > PRESERVE YE PERFECT MEN ?VR? KEEP THIS PERCEPT (or PRECEPT) SATAN >> >> Close, very close. >> >> >> S a n d y >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Preserve ye perfect men ever keep the precepts ten > >(As in Commandments!) In that case you gave an incorrect message to decode (by adding vowels) since your expansion/decode had no S between the TH of "THe" and the PRCPTS of "PReCePTS" <g>.

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S.974 Action, & Senate Judiciary Subcommittees
by lmccarth＠cs.umass.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[please don't cc: me on any replies also directed to cypherpunks@toad] Paul Elliott asked about the subcommittee referral of S.974 in the Senate Judiciary Committee. Although I've never done more in Arizona than loiter in the Phoenix airport, a staffer in Sen. Kyl's office kindly responded to my request for information about Judiciary subcmtes. and action on S.974 (on a Sunday, no less !) Charles Grassley (R-IA) is the primary sponsor of S.974, and Jon Kyl (R-AZ) is the cosponsor. Sen. Grassley chairs the Subcmte. on Administrative Oversight & the Courts, (202) 224-6736. Sen. Leahy (D-VT), who's sponsoring an alternative to the CDT, also sits on this subcommittee. Sen. Kyl sits on the Subcmte. on the Constitution, Federalism & Property Rights, (202) 224-8081. Sen. Feingold (D-CO), who has spoken out against the CDT, is also a member of this subcommittee. Both Grassley & Kyl are on the Immigration Subcmte., (202) 224-6098, but it's hard to see why the bill would get referred there. The Subcmte. on Terrorism, Technology & Government Information, (202) 224-6791, might take an interest in S.974, but neither Grassley nor Kyl sits on it. Leahy belongs to this subcmte. There's no sign in the Congressional Quarterly synopsis of any subcommittee referral of S.974 thus far: Forwarded from info(a)kyl.senate.gov: > 1 of 1 items CQ's WASHINGTON ALERT 07/23/95 > > *** FULL REPORT -- DIGEST, LEGISLATIVE ACTION, COSPONSORS, SPEECHES *** > > MEASURE: S974 > > SPONSOR: Grassley (R-IA) > > BRIEF TITLE: Anti-Electronic Racketeering Act of 1995. > > OFFICIAL TITLE: A bill to prohibit certain acts involving the use of > computers in the furtherance of crimes, and for other > purposes. > > INTRODUCED: 06/27/95 > > COSPONSORS: 1 (Dems: 0 Reps: 1 Ind: 0) > > COMMITTEES: Senate Judiciary > > SHORT TITLE AS INTRODUCED: > Anti-Electronic Racketerring [sic] Act of 1995 > > CRS SUBJECT INDEX TERMS: > Crime and criminals > Actions and defenses > Civil liberties > Computer crimes > Computer networks > Computer software > Criminal justice > Damages > Data banks > Destruction of property > Electronic surveillance > Evidence (Law) > Jurisdiction > Law > Legal fees > Money laundering > Organized crime > Right of privacy > Searches and seizures > Technology > Wiretapping > > > LEGISLATIVE ACTION: > > 06/27/95 Referred to Committee on the Judiciary (Text of bill > appears on pgs. S9180-S9181 of the June 27, 1995, > Congressional Record) (CR p. S9174) > > 06/27/95 GRASSLEY, R-Iowa, Senate speech: Introduces the > Anti-Electronic Racketeering Act of 1995. (Text of > bill) (CR p. S9180-S9181) > > 07/20/95 Cosponsor(s) added: 1 > Kyl (R-AZ)

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Remailers & local newsgroups
by Checkered Daemon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Do any of the posting remailers accept the inclusion of regional usenets in their active files so that people can use them to post directly to regional newsgroups? -- The Checkered Daemon cdaemon(a)goblin.punk.net

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RE: Netscape the Big Win(dows)
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 12:32 PM 7/21/95, Timothy C. May wrote: > >No, I don't use any of the "-works" apps, and I think the success of the >Web speaks for itself... This is not a view I have just come to, as my >recent message shows. Agreed. My posting seemed to get stuck in the response queue to the original post, and came out a little "dated", I guess... > >And I'm not wedded to "Netscape" per se, though that particular environment >has the current momentum. I've also used Mosaic and MacWeb to do much the >same things, but find Netscape smoother. I agree. By far the best web-browser out there is Netscape. They don't call it Mozilla for nothing. > >Out of curiosity, the phrase "grown out of Netscape," aside from the >implied barb, means what? Just what am I missing and what do I need to >"grow out of"? No. That seems to be my unintentional verbal style on the net, a little prickly around the edges. My actual barbs are so over the top that you'll never misunderstand them for their subtlety. What I mean is, that after you've used Netscape, a web client, to read news for a while, you'll start to think about more specialized applications like Newswatcher, for instance. The reason that Netscape has either built-in news reading or mail reading functions is feature creep. My hypothesis is that feature creep is brought about by some combination of venture capitalists, securities analysts, and "real marketing people", all of which Andreasson at Netscape has in spades, now, all with their chins on his shoulder saying, "That's nice, what else will it do?". In-line gifs or jpegs (or mpegs or whatever) are integral to the function of seeing what's on the web. So are in-line FTC, Gopher, etc. I think. My opinion about e-mail and news are that they're pretty orthogonal to the functionality of a web-browser. Kind of like building wheels on a boat. >If, perchance, this is just what of those throwaway barbs, implying I move >from fad to fad (as Fraering's post implied), you should know that I stuck >with tin/elm/emacs/Eudora for more than 3 years, as nothing obviously >better--and worth the learning curve to switch to--had come along. (In the >Mac domain I used other programs, none of them "-works" packages.) No, Tim, your mother does *not* wear army boots. ;-). I just have several friends who recently moved to a TCP net feed and thought they only needed Netscape. That is, until they used Eudora, and/or Newswatcher (preferably in it's "value added" editions), and switched to them instead for their respective purposes. >But, I'll tell you what, I *will* tell you about it in 6 months, whether or >not I've grown out of Netscape! Of that we can rest assured. :-). Cheers, Bob Hettinga -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMBLOsPgyLN8bw6ZVAQEzbAP/eosm6SNC1TdvduCWlPVO9WDbqlAcQtvj jL+jsy0QjEgMNwsGQGCQBAHMXxtOJC2GPC+lGVfGZcTDFljvgzhBJc2/QWI0mQcK Jz/vdYGfxhkBSlW0Xm+zcilmyYgvMr/KeIeJUcExYyVSSWpof7fuSG6jkfVmTWZ5 JDSHHd922U4= =ipGf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Shipwright Development Corporation, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA (617) 323-7923 "Reality is not optional." --Thomas Sowell >>>>Phree Phil: Email: zldf(a)clark.net http://www.netresponse.com/zldf <<<<<

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An idea about Java and remailer clients and servers...
by Phil Fraering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I think someone mentioned the possibility of running a Mixmaster client in Java. I was under the impression that there was a lot of common code between the Mixmaster client and server versions, at least in the current version. Does it have to be the case, then, that we even have separate client and server versions? If a new program is going to be written in Java, can't it have the functionality of both client and server? Why not "charge" for the ability to send an anonymous message with the duty to have for a short time (maybe an hour or two) running on your machine a node in a remailer network? Phil

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