December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Another remailer
by hfinney＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Found this on the nets: >Xref: portal alt.cyberpunk:31472 alt.anonymous:125 alt.privacy.anon-server:683 alt.security.pgp:11417 >Path: portal!portal.com!decwrl!hookup!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!swrinde!news.uh.edu!jpunix!perry >From: perry(a)jpunix.com (John A. Perry) >Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk,alt.anonymous,alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.pgp >Subject: New Anonymous Server! >Message-ID: <043094125146Rnf0.78(a)jpunix.com> >Date: Sat, 30 Apr 1994 12:51:00 GMT-6 >Organization: J. P. and Associates >Lines: 76 X-PGP-Key-Fingerprint 67 91 9D E9 97 E1 0F D9 F7 A5 B2 58 EA AB 3A F9 X-Newsreader: Rnf 0.78 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Everyone! Thanks to Patrick Oonk (kafka(a)desert.hacktic.nl) I would like to announce the creation of a new anonymous mail/usenet server. This server is based on the PGP-compatible Cypherpunk mail servers and operates with the same set of commands. The address to this new server is remailer(a)jpunix.com. Here is a brief description of how to use the server: How to use the Cypherpunks Remailers ------------------------------------ by Hal Finney, <74076.1041(a)compuserve.com> There are two general ways of specifying the remailing instructions. The simplest is to add an extra field to the header of the message. All of the Cypherpunks remailers will accept the field name "Request-Remailing-To:". (Several of the remailers also accept shorter versions of this name, but there is no standard for the short versions accepted.) Simply put the address that you want the mail to be forwarded to after "Request-Remailing-To:" in the message header, and the forwarding will be done. (Case is important in this header field, so be sure to put in the capital letters as shown.) This remailer software also supports "X-Anon-To:". Many people have mailers which will not allow them to add fields to the headers of the messages they send. Instead, they can only put material into the bodies of the mail. In order to accomodate such systems, the Cypherpunks remailers provide a mechanism for "pasting" the first few lines of the message body into the header. These lines can then contain "Request-Remailing-To:" / "X-Anon-To:" commands. This is done by having the first non-blank line of your message be the special token "::" (two colons). If the Cypherpunks remailers see this as the first non-blank line, all following lines up to a blank one will be pasted into your mail header. Then the message will be processed as usual. Here is how the message above would be prepared if Sue were not able to add lines to her outgoing message header. This new server will also support posting to USEnet in the form: Request-Remailing-To: news.group where news.group is the newsgroup the user wishes to post to. If you have any problems or questions, feel free to contect me at perry(a)jpunix.com. Please find the public key of the new server listed below for those of you wishing to encrypt to the server. - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.3a mQCNAi3CjRsAAAEEAMYPWIxjbDCBgUVi4sEkuv3EP59wBcRFEkDTojZqsf61tk3Q a701snXLfDITk3wzVjOj4LMYgEfZpwVNr3B1xdttQj44F/h1p2kmRW9NbDkm+OgP Ts7lZ0ac5PHkpb1q/qD2Y5yfiNNN+rZBaT1QLc3il3VIYy21BecyzSVK9nCVAAUR tDFQR1AtYmFzZWQgUmVtYWlsaW5nIFNlcnZpY2UgPHJlbWFpbGVyQGpwdW5peC5j b20+ =osYc - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- John A. Perry - perry(a)jpunix.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLcKctVOTpEThrthvAQGwFwP+OYwVry77liwHnpOxWZ5oZhdxUo9LA2BG VUK4sLUZ+phcJJAWvkA0KqV2D6WM0hc7beZqPspZ5ejCN2q/V9qrFiQjCN8MuOdk k+EREPHqqkOQDSzYOX9sZuD/17cg7nusxkpmPN2a4b9oouB8uq28nNC2VUz0yBte jgwh0f+voUY= =jF/y -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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MAIL: remailer list
by Karl Lui Barrus 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Changes: 1) two new remailers! anon(a)desert.hacktic.com and remailer(a)jpunix.com I put the public keys up at the gopher site (chaos.bsu.edu) and once the semester is over I will get organized and upload to soda.berkeley.edu. 2) Matt Ghio's update list of email-to-usenet gateways, gained from trolling misc.test. Thanks! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Cypherpunk anonymous remailers, 5/1/94 Q1: What are the anonymous remailers? 1: nowhere(a)bsu-cs.bsu.edu 2: remailer(a)chaos.bsu.edu 3: rperkins(a)nyx.cs.du.edu 4: remailer(a)soda.berkeley.edu 5: hal(a)alumni.caltech.edu 6: ebrandt(a)jarthur.claremont.edu 7: remailer(a)utter.dis.org 8: anon(a)desert.hacktic.nl 9: remailer(a)jpunix.com 10: remailer(a)rebma.mn.org 11: catalyst(a)netcom.com 12: hfinney(a)shell.portal.com 13: remail(a)extropia.wimsey.com NOTES: 1-3 no encryption of remailing requests 4-11 support encrypted remailing requests 11 special - header and message must be encrypted together 7,10,13 introduce larger than average delay (not direct connect) 1,2,7,10,13 running on privately owned machines 4,8,9 features USENET posting 11 features anonymous pools 8,13 located outside of the U.S. ====================================================================== Q2. Other Services: 1. Miron Cuperman's anonymous pool. To subscribe, send mail to pool0-request(a)extropia.wimsey.com. Mail sent to pool0(a)extropia.wimsey.com will be sent to all subscribers of the anonymous pool. 2. Matt Ghio's pseudo-account remailer. Send mail to mg5n+getid(a)andrew.cmu.edu You will receive an encrypted mail address of the form mg5n+eaxxxxx(a)andrew.cmu.edu Mail sent to this address will be forwarded to you. Mail sent to mg5n+remailers(a)andrew.cmu.edu will return a list of remailers to you. Mail sent to mg5n+anz3ajg8o1yxicqzt6v6qgpg3tkhddpqw3jl(a)andrew.cmu.edu will be forwarded on to cypherpunks(a)toad.com 3. Jay Prime Positive's mail pool Send mail to jpp=0x123456(a)markv.com, and the mail will be encrypted with the key matching 0x123456, and sent to alt.test with a subject line of "Ignore 0x123456" To add a key, send to jpp=poolnew(a)markv.com. The body of the message should contain the public key in pgp format. If there is a key clash, a message with the subject "Ignore jpp=poolnew key already in use" 4. Finger remailer(a)soda.berkeley.edu for instructions and a ping report. 5. Usenet posting: anon(a)desert.hacktic.nl and remailer(a)jpunix.com allow posting to usenet with the following syntax: Request-Remailing-To: news.group remailer(a)soda.berkeley.edu uses the following syntax: Post-To: news.group OR Anon-Post-To: news.group ====================================================================== Q3: What help is available? 1. Look in ftp://soda.berkeley.edu/pub/cypherpunks/remailer (soda.berkeley.edu = 128.32.149.19) chain.zip - program that helps with using remailers dosbat.zip - MSDOS batch files that help with using remailers hal's.instructions.gz - in depth instruction on how to use hal's.remailer.gz - remailer code pubkeys.tar.gz - public keys of remailers which support encryption pubkeys.zip - MSDOS zip file of public keys scripts.tar.gz - scripts that help with using remailers 2. Or try to gopher to chaos.bsu.edu and look in "Anonymous Mail"/Remailer Instructions" 3. Cypherpunks WWW home page is ftp://soda.berkeley.edu/pub/cypherpunks/Home.html ====================================================================== Q4. Email-to-Usenet gateways? 1: group-name(a)cs.utexas.edu 2: group.name.usenet(a)decwrl.dec.com 3: group.name(a)news.demon.co.uk 4: group.name(a)news.cs.indiana.edu 5: group-name(a)pws.bull.com 6: group-name(a)ucbvax.berkeley.edu 7: group.name(a)undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca 8: group.name(a)magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu 9: group.name(a)ccs.uwo.ca 10: group.name(a)julian.uwo.ca 11: group.name(a)paris.ics.uci.edu 12: group.name(a)cs.dal.ca NOTES: * This does not include ones that work for single groups, like twwells.com. * Remember to include a Subject: with your post, may cause failures if missing #6 blocks from non-berkeley sites (so use the berkeley remailers :-) ====================================================================== This is the remailer.data file I use with pingmail, a script for pinging anonymous remailers: 01:n:nowhere@bsu-cs.bsu.edu 02:n:remailer@chaos.bsu.edu 03:n:rperkins@nyx.cs.du.edu 04:n:remailer@soda.berkeley.edu 05:y:hal@alumni.caltech.edu 06:y:ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu 07:y:remailer@utter.dis.org 08:y:anon@desert.hacktic.nl 09:y:remailer@jpunix.com 10:y:remailer@rebma.mn.org 11:y:catalyst@netcom.com 12:y:hfinney@shell.portal.com 13:s:remail@extropia.wimsey.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLcPtioOA7OpLWtYzAQHXCgP/RWK7gAGZZ7bH/x6qKa9U+D3xPdpSOJT8 CqzFi/prqPSiJB1B+d5to+omiidSu4HK1DbOUUSlM//wvlNsYGExrTbaxDw8pUC3 ZWKfvHVklfJjbcmvLZQbal4Gjf8HHAlrnZG7fNFkLnZ6gGBh4qPqS4QxxadnT/I6 jiBcBMp7Gq8= =N7g/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Karl L. Barrus: klbarrus(a)owlnet.rice.edu keyID: 5AD633 hash: D1 59 9D 48 72 E9 19 D5 3D F3 93 7E 81 B5 CC 32 "One man's mnemonic is another man's cryptography" - my compilers prof discussing file naming in public directories

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Re: Another remailer
by nobody＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hal Finney wrote, quoting John Perry: > Thanks to Patrick Oonk (kafka(a)desert.hacktic.nl) I would like > to announce the creation of a new anonymous mail/usenet server. This > server is based on the PGP-compatible Cypherpunk mail servers and > operates with the same set of commands. The address to this new server > is remailer(a)jpunix.com. Here is a brief description of how to use the > server... It's gone now and the PGP key has been revoked. I think Mr. Perry deserves the Guiness world record for having the shortest-lived remailer! :-|

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Dominating public debate (Was: Cypherpunks as lobbying/propaga
by Robert Michael Hoff 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

While I agree that the cypherpunk list is too fragmented and informal to pass off as a coherent lobbying group, there remains a very deep need to get information out to the "general public" (read as, "people who might have heard about something the NSA is doing, but don't quite remember what....") Lets face it. For all the successful lobbying EFF and CSPR and individuals have done, upwards of 75% of the population won't recognize the word Clipper. This needs to change, since the NSA depends on the masses to be uninformed for Clipper to become reality. Press kits and making the cypherpunk label known are steps in the right direction, but we need to go more directly to the people. And sadly, probably the most successful way to stimulate debate and educate in the United States is best demonstrated by... "Harry and Louise" You know, that annoying commercial the insurance industry ran? That Bill was concerned enough about to parody? It's time the Clipper debate got one too. Mind you, we'd keep ours factual and non-sensational, but interesting enough to catch the eye of Joe and Mary Blow at the dinner table. An interesting concept: it would be (to my knowledge) the first time a grass roots campaign went prime-time. Problem is, getting airtime over the hours our target audience is likely to be watching isn't cheap. But hey, the software industry hates this as much as cypherpunks do. Pass the hat. And for that matter, if you think you're concerned enough to read this list, chip in $20 bucks to the currently non-existant (EFF? CSPR? Cypherpunk Nonproft Foundation for Truth?) Fund for Commercials. You want to get attention? THAT'S the way you do it in the US. It's unfortunate, but if you want to stop Big Brother, you're going to have to play with the big boys by their rules: who dominates public debate wins, not who's right. And the anti-Clipper movement needs to quit the discussion-group mode and move into action. Very, very soon. Comments encouraged. Robert Hoff. -- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.3a mQCNAi1cCbwAAAEEAM3mH6Wm+DjLAZHHaKAPEE6BpQpE6cCsI46HJzEekyQca18Z nnNJpVbFfs21P+nkzT02ZQ7HJ5lnQz8TGWN0LSJ8f45DSR5VElTO3MkOCrYSoZ3c WO3IxW4oxm4fWx+3ipN+KKrB/0oooT7n4u0LV0aaImIn2Uzm7I8jOOi7F8jFAAUR tCpSb2JlcnQgTS4gSG9mZiA8cmhvZmZAYmx1ZS53ZWVnLnVpb3dhLmVkdT4= =JUO8 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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So, what are we going to do?
by PMARKS＠VAX1.UMKC.EDU 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Very interesting threads going along in here. I'm a fairly new reader to the list. In fact, until I started reading WiReD, Cud, EFF, and this list, I didn't even know that I had to worry about privacy in cyberspace. RE: the folowing *************************************************************************** This is largely, however, off the topic. What is important, and a point on which I think we agree, is that the regulation of strong crypto, or in your definition, the interference in the marketplace, is unacceptable, unneeded and nothing more than a calculated attempt to maintain the status quo of usurpation of individual rights in favor of federal power and influence. Even the national security externality falls when one considers the uselessness of export regulation in the age of digital communication. *************************************************************************** It may be too late for the federal gov't to regulate cryptography. The genie is already out of the bottle. They might legislate it, even criminalize it, but private non-clipper crypto is here. I believe it is here to stay. At least, I'm not giving up _MY_ copy of PGP. As long as I've got a copy, my friends can get copies. Their friends can get copies from them. Just _HOW_ heavy-handed does the Justice Dept. plan to get? Will they come in at midnight, knocking down doors, shouting "we have a search warrant to locate illegal cryptography in your possession!" and run off with my equipment? _That_ could be quite embarrassing for crypto users like me, who are _not_ pornographers, drug dealers, or terrorrists to show up in court. What is the prosecuter going to tell the judge? "So far, we've decyphered his secret bar-b-que sauce recipie and his grandmothers instructions for making chocolate-chip cookies, but we expect to have the plaintext of his letter to his sister anytime now." What could I possibly tell the judge? "I just felt that my own data files were my own, and nobody else's, business. I just thought I was entitled to a little privacy." How would that read in the press? Could the government really afford to look that stupid? (Unless, of course, they really _are_.)

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Re: Constitution and Contract [Was: CIA & FBI]
by Black Unicorn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've often felt that the solution to this problem is that citizenship should not be given by birth. Everyone, whether born in the US or abroad, should have to go through roughly the present process to be granted citizenship. I'm explicitly including required study of US history and taking an oath to support the Constitution. ++PLS <- So what protections does a minor have before he or she passes the "test"? Will a passport be issued to a non-citizen?

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Blum-Blum-Shub source?
by Urban Nilsson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Timothy C. May says: > I don't think generating random numbers is all that much of a > priority. The Blum-Blum-Shub C code is available, and I defy anyone to > break _that_ PRNG! Where is this code available? Pointers anyone? Urban Nilsson | Use 'finger' for PGP2.3a public key. d7urban(a)dtek.chalmers.se |------------------------------------- Chalmers University of Technology |A person is just as big as the things Gothenburg, Sweden |that makes him angry.

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Re: PC-Expo
by rarachel＠prism.poly.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This is my reply to Perry about the PCExpo Cypherpunks attack. I'd originalkly meant this as a private message, but there's enough good info/requests that I'd like >ALL< of us to read it. I hope you won't mind Perry. For those of you just tuning in, this is an idea I've had: I want some cypher punks to join in together and simply hand out disks and flyers at PC Expo which contain crypto files and articles. This will be in NYC June 28-30. My gut reaction is to try and make it for the 1st day since that's when it's busiest, and perhaps we can catch some press-attention if possible. However, this will depend on who is free and when. We don't have to register for PCExpo nor go in. In fact, it would be a bad idea to hand out these disks on Javitz's property because we haven't rented a booth there (I'd rather we spend the money on duplicating disks.) If all of us chip in $20 worth of disks, it will make a very big difference. You can get disks very cheap from MEI microcenter at 800-634-3478 or whereever. Just make sure you get 3.5" 1.44M disks... If you can't attend because you're not in NYC or not available and are a good writer, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE write some anti-clipper anti-digital telephony articles. We need this because I don't want a copyright infringement on our hands (ie: information liberation front and newspaper articles.) As usual we can take quotes out of articles say "New York Times said Clipper is a brain dead idea" and such, but we need stuff that we can't be thrown in jail or sued for. We also need folks to contribute ideas/software to add to the disks and more importantly to review the disks... Re: Disks & $$$ Not really. Disks are pretty damn cheap these days. If you buy'em from MEI MicroCenter you can get 3.5"HD's for $0.41 cents a piece, or cheaper if you get'em in over 300. 10 disks=$4. IF every PC-Expo-punk chips in 20 disks, we should have plenty to make a neat dent in the Clipper-ignorant-crowd. The software: PGP, SecureDevice/Drive, a file viewer (sor of like list) which I've written that does some minimal mouse support, a menu system I guess, and lots of articles. I'd need someone to look at articles and kill off the ones that may cause copyright problems for this disk. I'm not putting my name on the disks, but if someone were to sniff hard, they'd catch my smell, so that's one thing I want to avoid. Basically, if you have any articles, or better yet if you'd be able to write some or get other c'punks to write some which we can distribute, it would be very cool. If you can attend PC Expo, please send email to rarachel(a)photon.poly.edu for faster processing. Oh, one more thing: I'll be making the disk duplications myself. This is so that our "spook" friends don't install viruses in our software. There is of course the question of trusting me, but I know I trust myself. :-) Perhaps the simplest thing is to include a virus scanner on the disk. Whatever... We also need someone to mass produce labels for the diskettes with a logo. NO CYPHERPUNK CRIMINAL LOGO! It's a cool logo, I have the T-shirt, but PCExpo attending yuppies will fear us more than the spooks if they see "Criminal" on the disk. I suggest "Free Security Articles And Software Demo" as the title of the disk. MAke it look like some corporation is giving out freebies. Oh,I really hate this one, but we should all be dressed professionally (ie: suits, ties, yuck!) This would hurt our credibility if we didn't.... Anyhow, nothing is organized yet, except that a few volunteers have signed up. So please, if you can contribute anything join in. After this is over, we'll have a cypherpunk diskette whch other cpunks in other citities can use to mail to the media, give out to other expos, etc.

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Re: Leahy Clipper hearings - May 3rd (fwd)
by lassie!jim%lassie＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FORWARDED MAIL ------- From: lassie!jim%lassie(a)netcom.com (Jim Nalbandian) Date: 01 May 94 Originally To: netcomsv.netcom.com!panix.com!stc Good letter, But...... I keep a current list of fax numbers for both house and senate in Arizona on my fax program, I think, don't you that most cypherpunks should (or do). I ran your letter thru my word processor and added or colleagues to the attended meatings line and then faxed to all AZ senate and house members. Maybe it would be a good Idea to make up a letter that went into deapth on this clipper proposition and send it out. I myself would post in arizona and I think others in other states would post too this way we could reach all of the house and senate. I know from common sense that real long letters would not work ( < 1 page) and also that the prime point like "please oppose the clipper legeslation) should be in very visible print. I sent mine in 20 pica bold underline. Let me know what you think and glad to be of help even though I am new to this list and probly would be deemed clueless, but I due wear nomex underwear..... :{) -- * Spelling errors are intentional and international * Jim Nalbandian lassie!jim%lassie(a)netcom.com Tempe, Arizona, USA N7SZS(a)K7BUC.AZ.US.NA No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain there right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government. <-------- Thomas Jefferson -- -- * Spelling errors are intentional and international * Jim Nalbandian lassie!jim%lassie(a)netcom.com Tempe, Arizona, USA N7SZS(a)K7BUC.AZ.US.NA No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain there right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government. <-------- Thomas Jefferson --

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Re: PC-Expo (fwd)
by lassie!jim%lassie＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FORWARDED MAIL ------- From: netcomsv.netcom.com!phantom.com!bruce (Bruce Fancher) Date: 01 May 94 Originally To: prism.poly.edu!rarachel (Arsen Ray Arachelian) passes. I think handing out floppy disks is NOT a very cost efficient scheme. It makes more sense to spend the money on xeroxing flyers explaining to people what encryption is, why it's important and how they can get the tools for themselves. Very people are going to load up a program from a disk that some stranger gave them. You'll also likely get thrown out of Javitts. I think that uploading to a local BBS is a bueno idea. I downloaded all PGP and shell programs from Internet and then uploaded them to a local BBS. I then put a classified add in the local Mensa paper (monthly) and gave phone number, description and asked that if anyone downloaded the files to upload a copy to their favorite BBS. In Haydukes book "Get Even" they called this the multiplier effect. Although the add costs me nothing and they circulation is only around 900 or so issues there is a good chance the software will travel to another 25 or so boards. I am also condidering taking out an add in the Arizona Republic (circulation aloat) and offering PGP !!!!FREE!!!! to anyone that calls my friends BBS. That should make him happy and should also spread the program to thousands of non Internet users. The cost to me is about $25 but the satisfaction is imense. Hayduke is right about the multiplier effect, just like I said about faxes earlier. If all members of this group fax to their non-long-distance government representatives then we can get the word out effectivly stronger than any other group. The ol' multiplier effect on the good ol' cypherpunks group. several hundred times 6 is 1200 messages from one letter. I think this is good. -- * Spelling errors are intentional and international * Jim Nalbandian lassie!jim%lassie(a)netcom.com Tempe, Arizona, USA N7SZS(a)K7BUC.AZ.US.NA No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain there right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government. <-------- Thomas Jefferson --

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