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Government Conspiracy
by goddesshera＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Timmy C. Mayflower sexually molests little children, farm animals, and inanimate objects. < > < > V )_.._( V Timmy C. Mayflower \\ <____> // ~ <______> ~ > /~\______/~\ // /~\_____/~\ /_\ /~\____/~\ /_\ /~\___/\~\ _/_\/ \___/\__/__\/ \___/__\/ There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway." This message was automatically remailed. The sender is unknown, unlogged, and nonreplyable. Send complaints and blocking requests to <goddesshera(a)juno.com>.

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Re: cryptography eliminates lawyers?
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>> > Telecoms will certainly break the professional >> > monopoly of lawyers (and other professionals). >> This I don't. How do you mean exactly? >Licensing requires the ability to outlaw unlicensed transactions. >Since the Net trumps censorship and allows consultations at a >distance, it cracks licensing, It does reduce the ability of geographical organizations to restrict who does business there, so markets will probably force some shakeups in jurisdictions. But lawyer work seems to mostly involve either contracts or courts - as long as courts are still run by governments, they can restrict who gets to practice in them, and who's allowed to write paper that they'll judge disputes about. Crypto _could_ be used for a modern version of the Stamp Tax - documents might need to be digitally signed by Certified Lawyers (though of course that may be lawyers putting their stamps on work mostly done by clerks.) Crypto may make it easier to resolve some kinds of disputes, by identifying who did what when, but the net isn't going to make the number of disputes decrease.... #--- # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, Freelance Information Architect, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # Phone +1-510-247-0664 Pager/Voicemail 1-408-787-1281 #---

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Re: ECPA (Was: University logging mail to anon.penet.fi)
by keelings＠wu1.wl.aecl.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Incoming from Jim Ray: > "Josh M. Osborne" <stripes(a)va.pubnix.com> writes: > > >down somewhat, in a very libertarian society oyu might be able to > >run a profatable ISP selling to the very nich market of people who > >want to threten, harass, or generally make a nuicence of themselves). > > As the list's designated "very libertarian" advocate, I must object. > Here is what you must sign to become a member of the Libertarian Party: And here, I must object (sorry Perry; I'll be brief). Whatever do the workings of an hypothetical "libertarian" society have to do with the "Libertarian Party"? Certainly, it would be nice if the latter were working towards the former, but the two are not the same. I know of quite a few `l'ibertarians who strongly object to the `L'ibertarian Party pledge. -- "Remember, obsolescence (Win95) isn't an accident; it's an art form!" keelings(a)wu1.wl.aecl.ca s. keeling, aecl - whiteshell labs

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Re: GAK
by Carl Ellison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:09:03 -0800 >From: cman(a)communities.com (Douglas Barnes) > >One good (non-cypherpunk) argument against GAK is that it >concentrates a very large quantity of valuable keys in a few >places, where they become an extremely attractive target for >government or corporate espionage. [...] >Note that a few million keys would fit very easily on even a >low-end DAT tape (easily hidden in a pack of cigarettes). The same danger happens with the TIS DRC (see the company web page), even though there is no key escrow in the TIS system. Instead, the emergency access field (Data Recovery Field (DRF)) is stored with the file -- but the key which encrypts it is the public key of the Data Recovery Center (DRC). If too much attractive stuff is available by loss of any one public key, that key gets attacked. To compensate for this, the TIS DRC generates new public keys periodically to give out to new (or old) customers. However, a government warrant which demands the DRC's private key collection would gain quite a harvest. +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Carl M. Ellison cme(a)tis.com http://www.clark.net/pub/cme/home.html| |Trusted Information Systems, Inc. http://www.tis.com/ | |3060 Washington Road PGP 2.6.2: 61E2DE7FCB9D7984E9C8048BA63221A2| |Glenwood MD 21738 Tel:(301)854-6889 FAX:(301)854-5363 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Shrinks as Narcs for the State
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 8/30/97 12:00 PM, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM (dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com) passed this wisdom: >Can the priest be prosecuted for not telling the cops about the confession? Unless something has radically changed the sanctity of the Catholic confessional has never been breeched involuntarily ... i.e.,I do not believe that any court has ever successfully compelled a priest to divulge what he has heard in the confessional. Of course a problem lies in the construction of the question ... its easier to want to try to breech the confessional when you speak of a guy talking about killing a hundred people as opposed to a guy talking about stealing a candy bar. In various ethics discussions on this subject over the years it usually seems to comes down to the fact that morally the priest is bound to try to do something to stop the carnage without divulging what he was told. Brian B. Riley --> http://www.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys - Send Email Subject "Get PGP Key" "When I die, please cast my ashes upon Bill Gates. For once, let him clean up after me! " - Christian Worley

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Re: Key Escrow Papers
by cme＠acm.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From: John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> >Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 20:55:49 -0400 > Note 1: It was Michael Nelson of the White House who said > that the reason to maintain the 64-bit limit for export was > because the key escrow methodology had not yet been proven > reliable and that the security agencies insisted on the > relatively weak system in case key escrow failed. Clint Brooks of NSA repeated this assertion, at least once. He said it during the August 17, 1995 meeting as well. I find this interesting, not least as a violation of security. This amounts to an open declaration that NSA can break through 64-bit keys. Could it be that NSA was miffed at being upstaged in the announcement of breaking through a 40-bit key and wanted to up the ante? .... :-) - Carl +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Carl M. Ellison cme(a)acm.org http://www.clark.net/pub/cme/home.html | |PGP: E0414C79B5AF36750217BC1A57386478 & 61E2DE7FCB9D7984E9C8048BA63221A2 | | ``Officer, officer, arrest that man! He's whistling a dirty song.'' | +----------------------------------------------------------- Jean Ellison -+

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Re: University logging mail to anon.penet
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:30 PM 9/6/95 -0700, you wrote: >Our local University apparently has been logging ALL mail to anon.penet, >including faculty, students, and off-campus users. Any time you're using non-encrypted remailers, you've got no protection against people doing that; even with encrypted messages they can still tell who's sending mail to anon.penet.fi, but can't tell who the messages are forwarded to. There may be ECPA issues involved, especially if CalPolySLO is a government- run university; the sysadmins certainly need to learn some ethics... If your ombudsperson can be reached by email, a note through anon.penet.fi explaining the usefulness of anonymous remailers for sensitive communications might be educational. After all, it's a technique they might want to use for handling sexual harassment cases or other problems requiring two-way communications. #--- # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, Freelance Information Architect, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # Phone +1-510-247-0664 Pager/Voicemail 1-408-787-1281 #---

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Cyphernomicon
by dsc＠swcp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thanks to all who helped me get my hands on Cyphernomicon. I now can breeze through the html site at www.oberlin.edu. I guess at 2am it didn't work because either I or oberlin were too sleepy. I still cannot open an FTP port at netcom. I got a copy on my Mac by giving a lot of memory to Netscape and getting it from www.swiss.ai.mit.edu. I also got a copy from Jeff's zipped copy at ftp.goblin.punk.net, but my unzipping utility hacked out a few lines. Here is a summary of what I learned: Cyphernomicon File Size: 1,287,731 (single character newlines) FTP sites: ftp.netcom.com/pub/tc/tcmay/CP-FAQ The original. "crowded" (I couldn't open an FTP port.) ftp.goblin.punk.net/pub/docs/cypherpunk.faq.gz ftp.goblin.punk.net/pub/docs/cypherfq.zip 28.8 bps modem, newline=CR, but .zip will change to newline=CRLF About 432Kbytes. (On PPP(a)14.4 it took me 6+ minutes to get it.) "until someone posts it on a site with higher bandwidth" [the upcoming new/changed/mirrored Cypherpunk site] HTML site: http://www.oberlin.edu/~brchkind/cyphernomicon/ nice. Other http: sites: http://www.swiss.ai.mit.edu/6095/articles/cyphernomicon/CP-FAQ text. very responsive and fast (6 minutes for my 14.4 connection). http:/www.isse.gmu.edu/~pfarrell/crypto/CP-FAQ text http://www.msen.com/~lwp/Cyphernomicon.gz About 432Kbytes. Need g[un]zip utility. Clearly missing are credits and contact info. I probably won't get to the FAQ much this weekend (wife & kids expect me to do my share and bring home the bacon), but maybe in a week or two. Do I have to read the sci.crypt FAQ, too, to earn my FAQ badge? Dar (list newbie) =========================================================== Dar Scott Home phone: +1 505 299 9497 Dar Scott Consulting Voice: +1 505 299 5790 <--- 8637 Horacio Place NE Email: darscott(a)aol.com Albuquerque, NM 87111 dsc(a)swcp.com Fax: +1 505 898 6525 http://www.swcp.com/~correspo/DSC/DarScott.html My preference for attached files are in this order: AOL, Mime, Binhex4, PGP, UUencode ===========================================================

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Re: ON OFF-TOPIC [NOISE]
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Is there something authoritarians want, that we don't mind them having, >for which crypto would be an enabling technology? Some of them _might_ >be interested in having better encryption for TV channels so that kids >can't watch a NotForKids channel (though many of them might rather ban >it outright) or so they can easily control whether their kids get to >watch MTV even though the V-Chip doesn't have a NoisyKidsMusic bit. >Perhaps they'd enjoy having reputation systems available, so they can >easily filter out politically incorrect material, or do a thumbs-down >on things they disapprove of, or let the Baptists and Catholics and >Anti-Baptists all have their own convenient ratings. MTV has a pretty funny parody of the V-chip concept that they have run on occasion. They are advertising that kids should get the MTV-chip which prevents parents from watching MTV while the kids are at school. Their slogan is "keep mind control at home where it belongs". (I find it interesting that they have an anti-censorship stance, yet censor many of their videos. Kind of hypocritical...) | Minister of Forced Caffinization in the DNRC | alano(a)teleport.com | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmerman unites | Disclaimer: | |all mankind free in one-key-stenography-privacy!"| Ignore the man | | -- PGP 2.6.2 key available on request -- | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.teleport.com/~alano | <fnord> |

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[NOISE/Fun] some 'special' primes
by Laurent Demailly 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I hope this is not extremely already know,... but, seeing on the list a sig with someone claiming to have the 'last' prime, I played a bit this nite and searched for the *first* alphabetically sorted prime (once written as spelled, sorted like with unix's sort) dependending on the language : Easiest: English : 11 : eleven A bit more fun : German : 811 (dunno how to write it, but it starts with an "a") Exotic one : slovenian: 10019 desettisocdevetnajst And..... the tricky one, which I hope is the good one (challenge: find one 'before') : French (and possibly spanish/italian,...too) : 105 105 000 105 167 (it spells cent cinq mille cent cinq milliards cent cinq mille cent soixante sept) [note that 'billion' is not used for numbers in common language, and that soixante-dix has a - and not a space :-) ] More languages ? better results anyone :-) ? Regards dl ps: I used gnu MP lib for my hack when I hit the 2^32 limit, but it's rather slow... (ok, its prolly due to my lasy prime algo too, but...) is there some well-known fast mp lib to play around with primes ? (should I look and extract PGP's ?) - -- Laurent Demailly * http://hplyot.obspm.fr/~dl/ * Linux|PGP|Gnu|Tcl|... Freedom 105 105 000 105 167 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.3, an Emacs/PGP interface iQCVAgUBMFEKvXk52/beodHxAQH+cgQAwUzDczvIzXaBzYx/Q5oerXFZ/ABDjp8b Sz20qgBmB3BP9jE8GbibqIF1FOExS2r3irg4PQHhUwuX7wWT/deo8KzWMrb3C2fi X3kMbtWM9hQNHJ1mRpAE41M1NuHgk8xM43WbkZcLyYOPXXWSAAs0qc+bdNamtUDT iujkF9fQxck= =mkaz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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