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Re: [NOISE] Re: Nazis on the Net
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"richieb(a)teleport.com" "Rich Burroughs" 23-APR-1996 14:15:55.60 >In July, 1986, Fadeley attended the World Aryan Congress at Hayden Lake, >Idaho. During this assembly, Fadeley was introduced to Weaver, who was at >that time of no particular investigative significance to BATF.[FN25]" >Weaver may have just been attending the World Aryan Nations Congress for the >beer and chicks... Yes. For instance, I am a member of the Extropy Institute - but I'm _not_ an anarcho-capitalist, even though that's one of the things that the Institute stands for. >Portions of the report are online at >http://isdn33.eng.uc.edu/~rabagley/ruby/ruby.toc.html However, one reference in this report to Weaver's calling for a meeting to oppose the "Zionist Occupation Government" does provide an argument for calling him a racist of the anti-Semitic variety. On the other hand, the only person claiming this is the FBI's informant; the truth of his statements has been called into doubt. So far as I can tell, it's uncertain. -Allen

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Re: CO$
by Jim Byrd 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:21 PM 4/23/96 -0400, Scott Binkley wrote: >Hi, lately we have had numerous threads on the CO$, and its threats to >remailers, and the such, I am quite interested >in the discussions regarding the cult, and want to know if anyone out >there knows of a mailing list that deals with it that I can join. There's no particular mailing list, but there is a very active discussion group at alt.religion.scientology. There are numerous web pages, a good place to start is http://www.cybercom.net/~rnewman/scientology/home.html. It has pointers to many other pages. Also, many of the critics (including several who have been raided, sued, or threatened) show up on IRC channel #scientology. Be careful of what you post in alt.religion.scientology, or the cult could start emailing threats to you too.

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Re: [NOISE] Re: Nazis on the Net
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"richieb(a)teleport.com" "Rich Burroughs" 23-APR-1996 17:19:45.60 >On Tue, 23 Apr 1996, E. ALLEN SMITH wrote: >[snip] >> However, one reference in this report to Weaver's calling for a meeting >> to oppose the "Zionist Occupation Government" does provide an argument for >> calling him a racist of the anti-Semitic variety. On the other hand, the >> only person claiming this is the FBI's informant; the truth of his >> statements has been called into doubt. >I'm sure it has been. That doesn't mean his report is untrue. Is the >standard of proof the same for both of these issues? We need proof to >establish that Weaver is a racist, but not to establish that the FBI >informant is lying? I require a higher standard of proof for worse accusations. I consider calling someone a racist a worse insult than calling them a liar. Furthermore, that this is an FBI _informant_ is a strike against the person to begin with in terms of trustworthiness. >Separatist/supremacist... I don't see much difference between them, and I >believe the former is largely just a cover story for the latter. Weaver >is no hero, IMHO, though I believe the govt. fucked up big at Ruby Ridge. I don't approve of either separatists or supremacists; I just see the former as not quite as evil as the latter. Calling Weaver a supremacist is most common among the organizations that seem to believe that such actions as at Ruby Ridge are just fine, so long as they are against their enemies; it appears to be a public relations ploy (although the evidence is admittedly uncertain). I don't call Weaver a hero, either, but the most evil ones at Ruby Ridge were the governmental types. -Allen

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Re: EYE_suk
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Responding to msg by adam(a)lighthouse.homeport.org (Adam Shostack) on Tue, 23 Apr 2:26 PM >Isn't the CIA forbidden from doing anything on US soil? Probably the CIA officers are linguists or analysts, maybe even cryptographers, who will be doing that they do at Langley and other US stations: processing foreign (non-US-citizen) intelligence coming into the country from a variety of sources. These roles would fit this paragraph of the article: To keep tabs on such potential foreign threats, around 25 CIA officers will be stationed alongside officers from the Defense Intelligence Agency the National Security Agency, and the FBI at an "all-source" intelligence command post to be established at an undisclosed location in the Atlanta area. Any CIA officers or agents or contractors here want to comment, top secretly? We're all compartmentalized, yes?

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Re: Nazis on the Net
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"nobody(a)REPLAY.COM" 23-APR-1996 18:33:53.11 [Neo-nazi holocaust revisionist bullshit deleted] My grandfather was among the people collecting the documents used at Nurenburg, and among those organizing the documents in question that were used in the trials. Look in the records for the Paris Documents Center, and you'll see his name - William H. Smith. (He would have been a major or a lieutenant colonel at the time, I believe). Anyone who tries to deny that the Holocaust happened - by which I mean that the Nazi government, probably with the complicity of the German people, comitted mass genocide, rape, and torture - is a fanatic, a moron, an ignoramus, or some combination of the above. It would have been better if the atomic bomb had been ready in time to use against Germany and Stalinist Russia. -Allen

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RISKS: Java security/privacy bug
by stevenw＠best.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From RISKS: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Apr 96 17:37:54 +0200 From: goldstei(a)iamexwi.unibe.ch (TERMINATOR) Subject: Java security/privacy bug We have found a privacy/security bug in the Java implementation of the Netscape Navigator. It is very easily possible for an applet to find out the pathname of the directory in which the Netscape Navigator was started. This information could then be sent back to a CGI program for logging. Clearly this information should not be available to an applet, as is indicated by the fact that applets are prevented from reading the "user.home" and "user.dir" system properties. When the Netscape Navigator is run under the Windows 95 OS, the pathname usually does not contain any critical information. However, when the Navigator is run under a multi-user network OS, such as UNIX, the pathname often contains the e-mail and/or login name of the user. In addition, the pathname might reveal details about the topology of the user's network, which an experienced hacker might be able to exploit. There are two ways to protect yourself from this problem: Either start up the Netscape Navigator in a directory whose pathname does not reveal any critical information, or disable Java altogether (Options | Security Preferences | General). A system administrator can protect his network by configuring the HTTP proxy server not to retrieve Java ".class" files. This bug is present in at least the following versions of the Navigator: 2.0 2.01 3.0b2 2.0GoldB1 2.01Gold and in the implementations for at least the following platforms: SunOS 4.1.2, 4.1.3, 4.1.4 SunOS 5.3, 5.4, 5.5 Windows 95, Windows NT IRIX 5.2, 5.3 HP-UX A.0903, A.0905 Linux 1.2.10, 1.2.13 FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE OSF1 V3.2 We have not tested whether this bug also exists in Sun's HotJava browser. We will release full details of the bug as soon as Sun and Netscape have issued patches which fix the problem. Full details have been sent to Sun and Netscape. This announcements has also been posted to the "comp.lang.java" newsgroup and has been sent to CERT. Daniel Abplanalp and Stephan Goldstein (goldstei(a)iamexwi.unibe.ch) Berne, Switzerland ------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Weller | Weller's three steps to Greatness: | 1. See what others cannot | 2. Think what others cannot stevenw(a)best.com | 3. Express what others cannot

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Re: arbiter/escrow agent for hire
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"bryce(a)digicash.com" 24-APR-1996 10:05:20.14 >1. Acceptable digital signature upon the "bet statement" >from each bettor. (Note that PGP signatures from PGP key >pairs which are not connected to me via the Web of Trust, or >which are not verifiable by me via an out-of-band >connection, are not acceptable digital signatures. This is >because of the MITM attack problem, not because I need True >Names to be connected to the signatures.) IIRC, currently Black Unicorn doesn't have any signatures on his public key of others. Therefore, this requirement, while understandable, could cause a bit of a difficulty in the current situation. >3. Amount of the bet from each bettor. This chunk of money >will be known as the "ante". Note that depending upon the >details of the "bet statement", each bettor may submit a >different ante. (Yes, up front. Yes, I get antes from both >bettors. Yes, I keep them while the bet is being settled. >Why do you think my fee is so low?) Chuckle. -Allen

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Re: PEP Announcement (fwd)
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hey, Amos! Talk to me about using your spiffy chain-remailing script button with the new Eudora... It asks me for a directory in an open box now, and urps... Cheers, Bob ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "If they could 'just pass a few more laws', we would all be criminals." --Vinnie Moscaritolo The e$ Home Page: http://thumper.vmeng.com/pub/rah/

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Anonymous banking
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Speaking of the below information, what is anonymous banking like in Austria, Colombia, Venezuela, and Thailand? -Allen >Copyright 1996 Nando.net >Copyright 1996 Reuter Information Service >VIENNA (Apr 24, 1996 11:18 a.m. EDT) - The United Nations, fighting a >rearguard action against illegal drugs and money laundering, on Wednesday >turned its fire on sloppy banking laws and called on all states to ban a>nonymous accounts. [...] >Experts say anonymous bank accounts are a safe haven for drugs money and >are an ideal vehicle for laundering cash. >They say the drugs trade must be attacked at its roots by cracking down on >transfers of narcotics-based "dirty money." [...] >Drug barons use a number of ruses including anonymous bank accounts and >specially set up front businesses, such as restaurants, to channel large >sums of money and obscure its origins. The money comes out "clean," or >laundered. >Helmut Butke, who chaired the meeting of the 53-member Commission of >Narcotic Drugs, said the United States was the main sponsor of the >resolution which seeks to streamline and increase international cooperation >against money laundering. >The draft resolution, which was shown to Reuters, "urges states to prohibit >banks and other financial institutions from offering accounts identified >only by a number, anonymous accounts or accounts in obviously false names." >It also urges states "to take all reasonable measures to ensure that such >institutions are informed of the identities of beneficial customers in all >transactions." [...] >Austria, the only country in the EU which allows anonymous bank accounts, >was adamant its current legislation did not run counter to the resolution. [...] >The Vienna government is clinging on to its banking system, saying the >accounts were useless for money laundering as they do not extend to >deposits over 200,000 schillings ($19,000). >But Washington last year ranked Austria alongside Colombia, Venezuela and >Thailand in a league table of nations that tolerate money laundering.

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Militias, reputation capital, unfounded rumor-mongering, and the DNS
by Rich Graves 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anatomy of a paranoid troll: http://fight-censorship.dementia.org/fight-censorship/dl?thread=FBI+monitor… Someone sent a message to Declan alleging that the FBI, with the cooperation of ISPs, was reading/disrupting/censoring the email of people interested in "patriot" movements. Declan said hmm, I can see the FBI doing that, and forwarded the message to fight-censorship. I pointed out that the story was complete bullshit, which is easily verified (yvv.com's incompetence in managing their DNS affects all users, including postmaster(a)yvv.com, not just the paranoid), but evidently my reputation capital on the moderated fight-censorship list is so low that instead of my objections, subscribers to the fight-censorship list got to read another, more paranoid rant. I do not expect this story to die, even though it's completely false -- it's too good. The meme in the subject line is awfully strong, lots of people won't take the time to read more than the title, and who really listens to a FUCKING STATIST anyway. Truth is indeed stranger than fiction, but seldom in the way you think. -rich

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