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Re: PC E-cash (NewsClip)
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Secret Service Says Student Used PC To Print Money etc. This reminds me of something which happened to me last week in a Burger King in Chelsea(MA), where the skipper now keeps the boat I grind winches on. I'm paying for my lunch and the cashier takes out a felt-tip pen and puts a little mark on my $10 bill. She tells me that if the pen-stroke turns yellow instead of the black one she got with mine, the bill is counterfeit. She told me she got yellow mark on $10 bill once. Go figure. So now, we have a working miniumum competitive cost of on-line digital cash verification. The amortized cost of the ink it takes to verify a piece of paper cash. What? 20 cents worth of ink? .002 cents? More fun with numbers, Bob Hettinga P.S. We just put in 12 volt power for the Mac. I also bought an inverter. Banana daquiris on the hook. Raise the cocktail flag! ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Shipwright Development Corporation, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA (617) 323-7923 "Reality is not optional." --Thomas Sowell >>>>Phree Phil: Email: zldf(a)clark.net http://www.netresponse.com/zldf <<<<<

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Re: PC E-cash (NewsClip)
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>I'm suprised that they check, since most counterfeiters don't usually do bills >less than $20, due to the costs associated with printing high quality >counterfeited bills. Not too surprising for Chelsea. This is the first city to go bankrupt in the history of the United States. I think it's still in recievership... Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Shipwright Development Corporation, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA (617) 323-7923 "Reality is not optional." --Thomas Sowell >>>>Phree Phil: Email: zldf(a)clark.net http://www.netresponse.com/zldf <<<<<

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Re: Java and Safe-TCL security
by Hal 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Ray Cromwell <rjc(a)clark.net> > Hal, > One of the designs I have one the drawing board is to store per-script > persistent data in a dbm file, and allow scripts to import/export data > from/to a shared tuple-space. I would limit the data storage to 1024 > bytes (to make it portable, some DBM libraries have this limit) > Scripts could store variables via a new command added to the interpreter > like 'SafeTcl_putvar varname value', and access valuables with > 'SafeTcl_getvar varname', 'SafeTcl_varlist'. Also, there would be a > 'SafeTcl_read_variables' which could be executed at the beginning of > the script to reload all stored variables. > Scripts could talk to other scripts by means of a > > SafeTcl_export -value value scriptname1 scriptname2 ... > > The other script(s) could check for any incoming imports and use > SafeTcl_import to retrieve the value. (when the last import is done, > the data is garbage collected. Also, there would be a timestamp so that > old data would be purged after a time limit anyway) This sounds like an interesting approach. I hear that Telescript uses a remote procedure call concept for inter-script communication. So one script gets to call the public methods of another script. I don't know how it finds out what other scripts are arround for it to talk to, though, or decides whether they have anything of interest. The tuple space idea sounds good and is not too dissimmilar from the get/setconfigdata in safe-tcl. There are some problems about security though. Who gets to delete tuples? How do you prevent a malicious script from messing up the data? Maybe it depends on the application, what you want to use this data for. BTW what kinds of facilities are there in Java for scripts to have access to disk files? I know there was some discussion of using scripts for cryptography. Presumably the user would want to give "read only" access to the (public) keys he used. And how about other forms of I/O, email and the like? Can Java scripts do this? What are the restrictions to prevent abuse? Safe-tcl has a concept where a script can send mail, but the implementation pops up a window and asks the user first if it is OK to send. (Unfortunately that doesn't work for a telescript like application where there is no user around to vet the messages.) > The problem with all safe "agent" designs is that the programming language > itself isn't enough. There needs to be a meta-agent language for > querying capabilities of local environments. Yes, there was some discussion about this on the safe-tcl list. There is also an agents list I was on for a while but they couldn't even agree about what an agent was so not much progress happened there! There have been various proposals for standard ways agent scripts could specify what capabilities they need to run, etc. Doing web searches on "agents" will track a lot of these down. However most seem concerned with traditional issues like compute cycles, memory usage, etc., and not with the more difficult and important issues of knowing whether there is another agent there (or a local database) which has the specific information my agent is after. Hal

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CFP - Electronic Commerce Conference
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From: Ravi Kalakota <kalakota(a)uts.cc.utexas.edu> >Subject: CFP - Electronic Commerce Conference >To: www-buyinfo(a)allegra.att.com >Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 12:44:28 -0600 (CDT) >Cc: kalakota(a)uts.cc.utexas.edu >Mime-Version: 1.0 > > > >Call for Participation: > > The First International Conference on Electronic Commerce > --> Conference Theme: Frontiers of Electronic Commerce <-- > > >We are pleased to announce The First International Conference on >Electronic Commerce, which will be held on Monday, October 30 >and Tuesday, October 31, 1995, at The University of Texas at >Austin's IC2 Institute in Austin, Texas. This conference is designed >to address research issues facing academia and industry in the age of >electronic commerce. The conference will bring together experts in >both academia and business to identify and develop a set of critical >issues for research in this area. The dual goals of the conference >include shared learning on electronic commerce practices and >defining a research agenda which will directly address issues >concerning companies today and position them for the challenges of >tomorrow. > >If you have any questions or need more information, contact: Ravi >Kalakota (kalakota(a)uts.cc.utexas.edu) > >or see --> http://cism.bus.utexas.edu/ravi/ecomm.html > >We hope you are able to attend this conference. Registration >information, speakers list and materials are enclosed. > > >Conference Summary >------------------------- >As the fastest growing facet of the Internet and other component >technologies, electronic commerce offers functionality and new >ways of doing business that no company can afford to ignore. The >basis for moving to an electronic commerce is a belief that electronic >markets have the potential to be more efficient in developing new >information-based goods and services, finding global customers and >trading partners to conduct business. Electronic commerce via the >Internet or the next generation network infrastructure -- Information >Superhighway -- will change business institutions, operations and >products/services as we know today, just as the telephone, TV, fax, >e-mail and EDI changed the way businesses and consumers >communicate. > >This conference is aimed at pushing and provoking electronic >commerce research and practice to "go where no firm has ever >ventured before." We expect electronic commerce to obsolete much >of the accumulated research in business. Instead of merely >transforming the way commerce is done today from a non-electronic >world to an electronic platform, the new way of commerce will >create and demand radical changes in the process, product and >promotion to better exploit the digital platform. > >It is no longer sufficient for electronic commerce to be viewed as a >path- breaking technology. Electronic commerce is already playing >an significant role in determining the strategy of today's companies >in providing value to external and internal customers. The challenge >facing companies is to increase the effectiveness of electronic >commerce activities in order to achieve superior business >performance. As successful organizations have taken a process- >oriented view of their businesses, they will have to re- evaluate the >role of the electronic commerce in terms of alignment with corporate >goals. > >Expanded roles for electronic commerce within the business include >activities which support other internal business processes. Questions >such as how this activity should be carried out, how electronic >commerce should be integrated with other organizational units, and >how electronic commerce technology can facilitate the goals of the >organization turn out to be complex decisions for executives making >these investments. > >Likewise, electronic commerce can become a key liaison to >customers. These electronic commerce based organizations are >increasingly taking on activities which expand the service offerings >of the company. An new breed of expertise -- electronic commerce >specialists -- is bound to emerge that focuses on creating increased >satisfaction and stronger relationships with customers. > >However, this emerging electronic marketplace is an unknown and >much like the "Wild West" of the past needs to be tamed. The >challenge is simple: using emerging technology how do we create a >business environment or infrastructure that will ensure efficient >electronic markets? What does it take in terms of new organization >structures like the network structures facilitated by smart and >wireless messaging; new electronic institutions such as brokerages >staffed by electronic brokers or agents; new business processes >better suited for mass customization, global sourcing and logistics; >new financial payment mechanisms and mercantile protocols? > >To achieve exploration and exploitation of new frontiers, we need to >integrate business concerns with the changing technology. This >conference aims at providing this integration by bringing together >leading business researchers who specialize in the various facets of >electronic markets, namely economics, finance, marketing >production and operations management, and technology experts in >the industry who are creating the electronic commerce infrastructure. >In addition, we are inviting experts who specialize in the WWW >browsers, electronic cash, encryption, software agents, MIME- >based messaging, EDI and structured documents. > >In sum, investments in electronic commerce, whether in time or >money, typically introduce far-reaching organizational and >technological issues. The outcome of this conference will be a better >understanding of the shape, structure, and operation of business in >the coming millennium. > >We hope you are able to attend this conference. Registration >information and materials are enclosed. > >The First International Conference on Electronic Commerce > > Conference Sponsors >--------------------------- >-- National Science Foundation (NSF) >-- RGK Foundation >-- IC2 Institute >-- William E. Simon Graduate School of Business Adminstration, >The University of Rochester >-- Center for Information Systems Management and >College and Graduate School of Business >The University of Texas at Austin > > Who should attend >------------------------ >* Academics in information systems, marketing, finance, >organizational behavior, and service management concerned with the >emerging research topics in the electronic commerce domain. >* Software developers and managers in the electronic commerce area >* Executives concerned with developments in banking and finance >* Executives concerned with providing excellent customer service >* Executives who make investments in next generation technology >* Executives who develop internal operations support > >Arrangements >---------------- >Registration >------------- >To register for the conference, complete and mail the enclosed >registration form along with a check (payable to the RGK >Foundation) for the registration fee before October 13, 1995 to the >RGK Foundation, 1301 W. 25th Street, Suite 300, Austin Texas >78705 > >The registration fee is $300 for all attendees. This registration fee >covers the banquet on Monday evening, breakfast and lunch on >Monday and Tuesday, coffee breaks, conference materials, and >scheduled ground transportation to and from the hotel and >conference site. > >Payment must be made by check or money order payable to the >RGK Foundation. > >Please complete and mail this registration form along with >registration fee before Friday, October 13, 1995 to: > >Electronic Commerce Conference >RGK Foundation >1301 W.25th Street Suite 300 >Austin, TX 78705 > >Phone: 512-474-9298 >Fax: 512-474-6389 > >Accommodations >--------------------- >We have reserved a block of rooms at the Red Lion Hotel, 0121 N. >I-35. You are responsible for making your own hotel reservations >and guaranteeing your room for late arrival if necessary. Please call >the RED LION at 512-371-5200 and mention the Electronic >Commerce Conference. > >List of Speakers >------------------- >Dr. Nathaniel Borenstein (First Virtual) -- Electronic Commerce > >Win Treese (Open Market) -- Challenges facing Online Commerce > >Dr. Clifford Neumann (ISI/USC) -- NetCash and NetCheque -- >Electronic Payments > >Dr. Arthur Keller (Stanford University and CommerceNet) > -- Smart Catalogs and Virtual Catalogs > >Dr. Donna Hoffman (Vanderbilt University) -- Hyper-Marketing > >Ravi Kalakota (University of Rochester) -- Intermediation and >Electronic Brokerages > >Dr. Jean-Philippe Favreau -- ECAT -- The Government of the >Future -- National Institute of Standards and Technology > >Dave Croker -- Internet EDI -- Brandenburg Consulting > >Dr. Preston McaFee (MIT) -- FCC Spread Spectrum Auctions using >Game Theory > >Dr. Andrew Whinston and Dale Stahl (University of Texas at >Austin) -- Pricing Internet Services > >Smoot Carl Mitchell and John Quarterman (Matrix Organization) -- >Internet Service Providers -- Changing Dynamics > >Larry Masinter (Xerox Palo Alto Research Center) -- URI, URN >and URLs -- Implications for the Digital Libraries > >Dan Connolly (W3 Organization) -- The evolution of HTML -- >Implications for the Future of the World Wide Web > >Dr. Su Shing Chen (National Science Foundation) -- NSF and >Electronic Commerce > >Dr. Jan Stallert (University of Texas at Austin) -- Supply-chain >Management and Electronic commerce > > > >Registration Form >--------------------- >Name (Please type) >__________________________________________________ > (Prof., Dr., Mr., Ms., Mrs.) First Last > >Title: >______________________________________________________ > >Organization: >______________________________________________________ >_ > >Address: >______________________________________________________ > > >______________________________________________________ > City State Zip Code Country > >Telephone: (_____)__________________ Work >(_____)_____________Home > >Fax: (_____)_______________ Email: >_________________________ > >Which days do you plan to attend? > Sunday, Oct.29 ______ (Reception) > Monday, Oct.30 ______ (Lunch) > Monday, Oct.30 ______ (Banquet) > Tuesday, Oct.31 ______ (Lunch) > >Registration Fee: Before October 13, 1995 ______ $300 > : After October 13, 1995 ______ $350 >(Payment must be made by check or money order payable to the >RGK Foundation.) > >Please complete and mail this registration form along with >registration fee before Friday, October 13, 1993 to: > >Electronic Commerce Conference >RGK Foundation >1301 W.25th Street Suite 300 >Austin, TX 78705 > >Phone: 512-474-9298 >Fax: 512-474-6389 > ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Shipwright Development Corporation, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA (617) 323-7923 "Reality is not optional." --Thomas Sowell >>>>Phree Phil: Email: zldf(a)clark.net http://www.netresponse.com/zldf <<<<<

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Re: Java and Safe-TCL security (was Re: Java, Netscape, OpenDoc, and Babel)
by Rich Salz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sorry for not being clear: when I talked about compile-time safety, I was referring to safe-tcl.

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Re: ACLU Opposes Exon-Like Speech Crimes in Managers Amend. to House Telco Bill
by Carl Ellison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 11:06:19 -0400 >From: ACLUNATL(a)aol.com > The amendment would have the >effect of actually usurping control from parents in favor of a government >approval panel. Anecdote: I was in Cambridge MA this past weekend visiting old friends, some at church. I sat across from one such at lunch -- a young guy up from Texas going on about how good it is that people are fighting cyberporn. I brought up parental control in attempted rebuttal and he switched immediately to the idea that `parents usually *are* the child abusers and we need to protect children from them -- not give parents control over what gets communicated electronically'. I was surprised at the speed with which he switched to that line of thought. It's clear that this chess game opening has been played by or around him before. [Come to think of it now, it's completely consistent with the anti-abortion stand: that children (starting at fetus) are the property of Society and parents are required to serve Society as soon as a child is conceived (or perhaps as soon as they start having sex). If it's child abusers you're talking about, that line of reasoning can carry emotional appeal. However, I lived in Utah at a time when it was illegal for parents to instruct their children about birth control (I was told (I didn't read the law personally.)).] - Carl +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Carl M. Ellison cme(a)acm.org http://www.clark.net/pub/cme/home.html | |PGP: E0414C79B5AF36750217BC1A57386478 & 61E2DE7FCB9D7984E9C8048BA63221A2 | | ``Officer, officer, arrest that man! He's whistling a dirty song.'' | +----------------------------------------------------------- Jean Ellison -+

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Cox/Wyden passed, but so did "Managers' Amendment"
by Mike Ingle 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

------------------------------------------------------------------------ ****** ******** ************* ******** ********* ************* ** ** ** *** POLICY POST ** ** ** *** ** ** ** *** August 4, 1995 ** ** ** *** Number 23 ******** ********* *** ****** ******** *** CENTER FOR DEMOCRACY AND TECHNOLOGY ------------------------------------------------------------------------ A briefing on public policy issues affecting civil liberties online ------------------------------------------------------------------------ CDT POLICY POST Number 23 August 4, 1995 CONTENTS: (1) House Approves Cox/Wyden 'Internet Freedom' Bill 420 to 4 Major Victory for Cyberspace -- Indecency Statues Remain A Serious Issue (2) Subcribe To The CDT Policy Post Distribution List (3) About CDT, Contacting US This document may be re-distributed freely provided it remains in its entirety. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ (1) HOUSE PASSES COX/WYDEN 'INTERNET FREEDOM' AMENDMENT MAJOR VICTORY FOR CYBERSPACE -- INDECENCY STATUTES REMAIN A MAJOR ISSUE By a overwhelming vote of 420 to 4, the US House of Representatives today approved the 'Internet Freedom and Family Empowerment' amendment, sponsored by Reps. Chris Cox (R-CA) and Ron Wyden (D-OR), which would prohibit the federal government from regulating content on the Internet, commercial online services, and other interactive media. Unlike the Senate-passed Exon/Coats Communications Decency Act (CDA), the Cox/Wyden amendment ensures that individuals and parents can decide for themselves what information they or their children receive. By contrast, the Exon/Coats CDA would grant the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) broad powers to regulate the expression of each and every one of the millions of users of the Internet. The Cox/Wyden amendment: * Prohibits the FCC from imposing content regulations on the Internet or other interactive media. * Removes disincentives for online service providers to exercise editorial control over their networks and to provide blocking and screening technologies to their uses. * Seeks to create a uniform national policy prohibiting content regulations in interactive media. CDT believes that the Cox/Wyden amendment is an enlightened approach to addressing the issue of children's access to objectionable material online. Unlike the Senate-passed CDA, the Cox/Wyden approach recognizes that the Internet is a global, decentralized network, with abundant capacity for content and tremendous user control. House passage of the Cox/Wyden amendment sets the stage for a direct battle between the House and Senate on the issue of government content regulation in interactive media. CDT will work vigorously to ensure that the Cox/Wyden amendment replaces the Exon/Coats CDA in the final version of telecommunications Reform legislation. NEW UNCONSTITUTIONAL INDECENCY RESTRICTIONS ALSO APPROVED Although the House vote today significantly advanced freedom of speech on the Internet, the threat of unconstitutional indecency restrictions remains. In a vote unrelated to the Cox/Wyden amendment, the House also approved changes to federal obscenity laws which would criminalize the transmission of constitutionally protected speech online. These amendments were approved as part of the "Managers Amendment" to the Telecommunications reform bill (HR 1555). Although these amendments are more narrowly drawn than the Exon/Coats CDA or the Grassley/Dole "Protection of Children from Computer Pornography Act (S. 892), they clearly violate the First Amendment and remain an issue of serious concern to CDT. The new criminal law amendments are opposed by several prominent members of both the House and Senate, including Cox and Wyden. As the bill makes its way through the House/Senate conference committee, CDT will work with Reps. Cox and Wyden, Senator Leahy, and others to: * Remove the unconstitutional indecency restrictions added as part of the "Managers amendment" * Ensure that the Cox/Wyden amendment replaces the Exon/Coats CDA in the final telecommunications reform bill * Clarify that the Cox/Wyden amendment does not affect privacy protections under the Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA) * Strengthen provisions that pre-emption state online censorship laws. COX/WYDEN AMENDMENT PROTECTS CYBERSPACE FROM GOVERNMENT INTRUSION, RECOGNIZES PARENTAL CONTROL POSSIBILITIES The Cox/Wyden bill seeks to accomplish four principal objectives: * PROHIBIT FCC CONTENT REGULATION OF THE INTERNET AND INTERACTIVE COMMUNICATIONS SERVICES. The bill explicitly prohibits the Federal Communications Commission from imposing or content or other regulations on the Internet or other interactive communications services (Sec 2 (d)). This provision recognizes that Interactive media is different from traditional mass media (such as broadcast radio and television), and will enshrine in statue strong protections for all content carried on the Internet and other interactive communications services. Instead of relying on government censors to determine what is or is not appropriate for audiences, this provision recognizes that individuals and parents are uniquely qualified to make those judgments. * REMOVE DISINCENTIVES FOR ONLINE SERVICE PROVIDERS TO EXERCISE EDITORIAL CONTROL OVER THEIR NETWORKS AND TO DEPLOY BLOCKING AND SCREENING TECHNOLOGIES FOR THEIR SUBSCRIBERS. The bill would remove liability for providers of interactive communications services who take good faith steps to restrict access to obscene or indecent materials to minors or provide software or hardware to enable their users to block objectionable material.(Sec 2 (c)) In addition, the bill would overturn the recent court decision (Stratton Oakmont, Inc. v. Prodigy Services Co., N.Y. Sup. Ct. May 24, 1995) which held Prodigy liable for content on its network because the service screens for sexually explicit material and language. Prodigy now faces a $200 million lawsuit. The bill does not intend to create an obligation for providers to monitor or screen content or to allow violation of Federal privacy statutes (such as the Electronic Communications Privacy Act), although some concerns remain on these points. CDT remains committed to addressing these concerns as the legislation moves to conference, and has been assured by Rep. Cox and Wyden that these issues will be addressed. * PRE-EMPT INCONSISTENT STATE LAWS REGULATING CONTENT ON INTERACTIVE COMMUNICATIONS SERVICES. The bill seeks to pre-empt States from enforcing inconsistent laws, including restrictions on content available on interactive communications services. (Sec 2 (e)(2)) The actual scope of this preemption remains an issue of some discussion. CDT believes that any legislation in this area MUST contain a strong pre-emption of inconsistent state laws. A patchwork of state laws which impose varying, and in some cases contradictory, obligations on service providers and content providers must be avoided. CDT will work to ensure that the Cox/Wyden bill creates a uniform national policy which prohibits states from imposing content regulations on interactive media. * NO EFFECT ON CRIMINAL LAW. The bill is not intended to prevent the enforcement of the current dial-a-porn statute or other Federal criminal statutes such as obscenity, child pornography, harassment, etc. (Sec 2 (e)(1)) NET ACTIVISM A CRITICAL FACTOR When Senator Exon (D-NE) first proposed the CDA in February 1995, the net.community reacted with strong opposition. A coalition of online activist organizations, including CDT, EFF, People for the American Way, EPIC, the ACLU and organized with the Voters Telecommunications Watch (VTW), worked tirelessly over the last six months to mobilize grass roots opposition to the CDA. Through our efforts of generating thousands of phone calls to Congressional offices and an online petition which generated over 100,000 signatures in support of an alternative to the CDA, the net.community was able to demonstrate that we are a political force to be reckoned with. The net.campaign and public education efforts helped to encourage House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA) to come out against the CDA, and was an important factor in Reps. Cox and Wyden's decision to propose their alternative. As the legislation moves to the conference committee and then on to final passage, the net.community must be prepared to continue to fight to ensure that the new criminal provisions are removed and that the Cox/Wyden amendment is not weakened. GENESIS OF THE COX/WYDEN AMENDMENT After the Senate passed the CDA by a vote of 84-16 on June 14, CDT stepped up our efforts to find an alternative which protected the First Amendment and recognized the unique nature of interactive media. Both on our own and through the Interactive Working Group (a group of over 80 public interest organizations and leading computer and communications companies, content providers, and others, coordinated by CDT. The IWG includes the ACLU, People for the American Way, the Progress and Freedom Foundation, America Online, MCI, Compuserve and Prodigy, and many other organizations and corporations), worked directly with Reps. Cox and Wyden to bolster the case that parental control technologies offered an effective alternative to government content regulations. To this end, the IWG held a demonstration for members of Congress and the press in mid-July to demonstrate parental control feature of products offered by Netscape, SurfWatch, WebTrack, America Online, and Prodigy. In addition, the IWG issued a comprehensive report reviewing current technology and the state of current laws prohibiting trafficking in obscenity, child pornography, stalking, threats, and other criminal conduct online (this report can be viewed on CDT's web site URL:http://www.cdt.org/iwg/IWGrept.html) Through these efforts and the efforts of VTW's online coalition, to educate members of the House about the problems with the Exon/CDA and the promise of interactive media, the House today has enacted an enlightened approach to dealing with children's access to inappropriate material online. Today's vote represents a tremendous victory for the first amendment and the promise of cyberspace. NEXT STEPS The House Telecommunications legislation (HR 1555) is expected to pass later today (8/4). The Senate approved similar legislation (S. 652) in June. Both bills now move to a House/Senate Conference Committee where differences will be worked out. The Conference Committee is expected to begin deliberation in early September. Once the Conference Committee agrees on a version of the bill, it will be sent back to both the House and Senate for final approval. This vote is expected to occur before the end of October. The Internet-censorship provisions of the Senate bill are among the key difference between the House and Senate proposals. However, several key members of the Senate, including Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT) and Russ Feingold (D-WI) have expressed opposition to the Exon/Coats approach. CDT will fight vigorously throughout the remainder of this Congress to ensure that the Exon/Coats CDA does not become law. We will also work to remove the new unconstitutional criminal law amendments passed by the House today. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ (3) How To Subcribe To The CDT Policy Post Distribution List CDT Policy Posts, which is what you have just finished reading, are the regular news publication of the Center For Democracy and Technology. CDT Policy Posts are designed to keep you informed on developments in public policy issues affecting civil liberties online. SUBSCRIPTION INFORMAITON 1. SUBSCRIBING TO THE LIST To subscibe to the policy post distribution list, send mail to "Majordomo(a)cdt.org" with: subscribe policy-posts in the body of the message (leave the subject line blank) 2. 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Secure FileSystem vs Secure Device
by gjeffers＠socketis.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Secure FileSystem vs Secure Device Cypherpunks, I have been studing the software package SFS110 ( Secure File- System) version 1.10 by Peter Gutmann. I originally wanted to use SECDEV (Secure Device) but mistook Secure File System for it. I have heard references to Secure Device on Cypherpunks but I have heard nothing about Secure FileSystem. Does anyone have knowledge of both of these systems & can give me advice on which is superior? Also, I found Secure Device compressed with a .arj compression system. What is this compression method? Is there a DOS version of Secure Device? I have done some preliminary reading of Secure FileSystem & I find it to be very impressive! So, why no mention on Cypherpunks? Is Secure Device that much superior or has Secure FileSystem just been over- looked? Also, what are the latest version numbers of both of them? PUSH EM BACK! PUSH EM BACK! WWWAAAYYYY BBBAAACCCCK! BBBEEEAAATTTT STATE! Gary Jeffers

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Re: Using MacPGP to revoke a key...
by jgrubs＠voxbox.norden1.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- "Robert A. Rosenberg" <hal9001(a)panix.com> writes: > There is no need to revoke the old key - you just create a new key with > both the old and new keys and send it to the KeyServer. The normal PGP > "Default" when there are more than one key with the same Email Address is > to use the last one (which would be last in the keyring as well as have the > latest date). Which is another good reason why one ought resist the itch to tinker with one of those PGP keyring sorting programs. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: LIBERTY!! Use it or lose it!! iQCVAwUBMCOKA974r4kaz3mVAQEKnAP8Cgjwj/9Lol1sXUepgAbh72R+cudYrWz1 F7BWC28as8SrTfYRPtcC3g2jDGbPBJu66FFfY8UjBo3vdMYbOIMxDCfoyqZmAxAg QY0q8/DoZsJYXwwaxxNJD+3syreT6PyS52ML1GhYGfKrDIObnb4utDzliQ+NJDYT YL87oqTT0b4= =A8IV -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Web page
by merriman＠arn.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've *finally* gotten a Web page (Netscape optimized, Mosaic tolerant), and included several links to crypto-related sites. Suggestions, feedback, and comments welcome. We now return you to your regularly scheduled flame war :-) Dave Merriman This is a test (3 UUE lines) of the unconstitutional ITAR - 1/713th of the PGP executable. See below for getting YOUR chunk! ------------------ PGP.ZIP Part [015/713] ------------------- M=$<(&L`#*IPP",(G6(,,S,`P](<2RWU96XCW86/JBYV8A\D8@X'HB_9H#&\X MX'PCUB.,13B"X8`R?^J-:UB.M_`U\>[#)BS&5$0C,Y#^1CS>1`\T1QTXX6!3 M8H,),S$8G>&.WP(8IRA`-M['+`Q%&_C"">5-F%LX@<_Q$;*P'',Q$Z/AA[8M ------------------------------------------------------------- for next chunk to export --> http://dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/export/ <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> My web page: http://www.geopages.com/CapitolHill/1148

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