Re: ACLU Opposes Exon-Like Speech Crimes in Managers Amend. to House Telco Bill
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 11:06:19 -0400 From: ACLUNATL@aol.com
The amendment would have the effect of actually usurping control from parents in favor of a government approval panel.
Anecdote: I was in Cambridge MA this past weekend visiting old friends, some at church. I sat across from one such at lunch -- a young guy up from Texas going on about how good it is that people are fighting cyberporn. I brought up parental control in attempted rebuttal and he switched immediately to the idea that `parents usually *are* the child abusers and we need to protect children from them -- not give parents control over what gets communicated electronically'. I was surprised at the speed with which he switched to that line of thought. It's clear that this chess game opening has been played by or around him before. [Come to think of it now, it's completely consistent with the anti-abortion stand: that children (starting at fetus) are the property of Society and parents are required to serve Society as soon as a child is conceived (or perhaps as soon as they start having sex). If it's child abusers you're talking about, that line of reasoning can carry emotional appeal. However, I lived in Utah at a time when it was illegal for parents to instruct their children about birth control (I was told (I didn't read the law personally.)).] - Carl +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Carl M. Ellison cme@acm.org http://www.clark.net/pub/cme/home.html | |PGP: E0414C79B5AF36750217BC1A57386478 & 61E2DE7FCB9D7984E9C8048BA63221A2 | | ``Officer, officer, arrest that man! He's whistling a dirty song.'' | +----------------------------------------------------------- Jean Ellison -+
On Mon, 7 Aug 1995, Carl Ellison wrote:
Anecdote:
I was in Cambridge MA this past weekend visiting old friends, some at church. I sat across from one such at lunch -- a young guy up from Texas going on about how good it is that people are fighting cyberporn.
I brought up parental control in attempted rebuttal and he switched immediately to the idea that `parents usually *are* the child abusers and we need to protect children from them -- not give parents control over what gets communicated electronically'.
I was surprised at the speed with which he switched to that line of thought. It's clear that this chess game opening has been played by or around him before.
I suppose it was pointless to point out (in this case, not in general public debate) that parents who are child abusers have no need to use the Internet to acquire victims? Two totally, completely, absolutely different questions. Or am I missing something? Jon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jon Lasser <jlasser@rwd.goucher.edu> (410) 494-3253 Visit my home page at http://www.goucher.edu/~jlasser/ You have a friend at the NSA: Big Brother is watching. Finger for PGP key.
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