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SurfWatch for employees (ugh)
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Consistent with the trend towards treating employees like children, Webster Network Strategies has announced (but apparently has not shipped) a product similar to SurfWatch but aimed at an employment environment. The product is called "WebTrack" and supposedly supports access lists of URLs, where access can be allowed to "all but these sites" or "only to these sites". The product also can be configured to log all Web usage by users subjected to its reign of terror. :) WebTrack is priced at $7,500 with an annual subscription to its list of interesting (err, forbidden) sites priced at $1,500. The article in the 7/10/95 Infoworld doesn't list contact information for Webster Network Strategies. What is it, two months between deployment of software designed to restrict net access to one segment of the population perceived as especially vulnerable and the subsequent application of that technology to other target groups? My bet is the next target group will be university students, followed by "affinity marketing" with various repressive organizations (whose names I elide in the interests of greater Cypherpunk harmony, pick your own and imagine them here.) Of course, the next step is to use restrictive licensing/distribution terms (a la Netscape/Mozilla) and a nifty freeware/software package available only from a site which also carries porn (or other forbidden fruit) to make the customers/purveyors of this crap twist in the wind a bit. Break the terms of the license and get the software somewhere else? Avoid using the coolest new thing because you're hooked up via we'll-think-for-you.net? Doh. (Pedants need not point out that personal choice (and personal filtering) are always appropriate, and indeed empowering. Neither WebTrack nor NetSurf are marketed to help people subject themselves to a regime of repression - they are intended and sold to allow the purchaser to control what others (perceived as having fewer or no rights) will read and view. ". . inasmuch as you have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me." Matthew 25:45) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMAtWUn3YhjZY3fMNAQH8EAP/aFXe7uI1EuIB31L8h7H+5l3Mg1aQE7e9 i86FnqwGMDg5JlDvJD05dXOBXeInvKtc6ZD0Us+qwDmg2ISo/Yu0QCfedTBgZ7fq s/3WFwtOcpiBG7YTkxGJrvB+r4KIgodb9QSGEQ8yofKaRLT33IkgO3ijxrnyoNkX vm/tZ8EnoV0= =hrOo -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: bi-directional dining cryptographers
by stewarts＠ix.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:24 PM 7/17/95 -0500, Phil Fraering wrote: >I'd also like to point out that this system indicates that during >an attack/disruption on a traditional dc-net, the disruptor can >tell what the original person was trying to send, even though noone >else can. > >And then perhaps XOR the data with something offensive, and if the >original sender tries to re-send, broadcast the result of the XOR, >resulting in a total net output of the offensive material. That's difficult - you have to identify that the sender is sending the same message while the message is being sent, rather than one or two bit-times later, and you can't fake encryption with an unknown keyid or digital signatures. (Digital signatures aren't something everybody would use very often on a DC-net, since the purpose of the net is to be anonymous, but since you can do anonymous broadcasts, you can anonymously post a signature key for your nym if you want to.) Also, there's no need to combine jamming and posting an offensive message; they both work well separately. I suppose you could do that if you only want to harass the net a bit (e.g. replace all trafic to remailer X with new remail to whitehouse.gov, or replace all postings from Cancelmoose with complaints about censorship), but basically DCnets degrade rapidly if the social structure of the net members does. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, Freelance Information Architect, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com

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DED_hed
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

8-10-95. NYPaper Page-Oner: "Jerry Garcia of Grateful Dead, Icon of 60's Spirit, Dies at 53." By Jon Pareles, Music Critic. [With] "Sadness From the Streets to High Offices." By John Markoff. DED_hed

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Legislative One-Liners
by J. Kent Hastings 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-- [ From: J. Kent Hastings * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- DANGER: Legislature In Session! "One-Liners" List of 104th Congress privacy legislation. Latest update: 8/1/95. The overview compiled by the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC), info(a)epic.org, http://www.epic.org is edited here into single line entries by J. Kent Hastings, zeus(a)pinsight.com, Assistant Director of the Agorist Institute, http://www.pinsight.com/~zeus/agorist/ The full text of pending bills, and other legislative materials is available from cpsr.org /cpsr/privacy/epic/104th_congress_bills/ - -- House Bills -- Taking Back Our Streets (HR 3). Limits sanctions for illegal searches. Personal Responsibility (HR 4). Databases of new hires and child support. Risk Assessment (HR 9). Government Information Locator Service (GILS). FBI Counterintelligence (HR 68). Easier access to credit reports by FBI. Electronic Anti-Stalking (HR 112). Electronic harassing a federal crime. Obscenity and Computers (HR 121). Network obscenity 10-year fed penalty. Quality Assurance in Drug Testing (HR 153). Requirements for drug testing. Individual Privacy Protection (HR 184). New national privacy commission. Interstate Child Support (HR 195). New hires database, IRS collection. Export Administration (HR 361). Studies software encryption overseas. Antitrust Reform (HR 411). Orders FCC privacy survey, limits CPNI. Postal Privacy (HR 434). Prohibits P.O. selling info to direct marketers. Fair Health Information Practices (HR 435). Health care privacy bill. Restricted Explosives Control (HR 488). Federal permits, even black powder. Social Security Anti-Fraud (HR 502). Telephone verification of applicants. Immigration Reform (HR 560). Tamperproof ID cards for immigrants. Consumer Reporting Reform (HR 561). Limits cost and use of credit reports. Enforce Employer Sanctions (HR 570). SS card w/fingerprint, barcode, photo. Exclusionary Rule Reform (HR 666). Violates 4th Amendment, except IRS/BATF. Criminal Alien Deportation (HR 668). Wiretaps OK for illegal immigration. Illegal Immigration Control (HR 756). Wiretaps, machine SSN I.D., databases. Child Support Responsibility (HR 785). Parents SSN birth/marriage documents. Paperwork Reduction (HR 830). Coordinates federal information policy. Comprehensive Antiterrorism (HR 896). "Terrorist organization" fund raising. Child Support Enforcement (HR 906). Allows access to all financial records. Communications Decency Act (HR 1004). Same as Exon bill in Senate (S 314). Illegal Immigration Control (HR 1018). Tamper proof Social Security cards. Welfare Transformation (HR 1157). Database of new employees, parent locator. American Health Security (HR 1200). Health records database for research. Food Stamp Simplification (HR 1214). Increases SSN use. Electronic benefits. Basic Health Care (HR 1234). Weak limits on medical information access. Sexual Crimes Against Children (HR 1240). New penalties, computer networks. DNA Identification (HR 1241). Revises funding authorized for Violent Crime. Family Stability (HR 1250). Database of employees, parents, more SSN use. Family Privacy Protection (HR 1271). Prohibits questionnaires of minors. Revise Aliens and Nationality laws (HR 1292). Employment verification card. Children's Media Protection (HR 1390). "V-Chip" TV filtering, ratings. Communications Act of 1995 (HR 1555). Privacy of customer info, except CDA. Antiterrorism Amendments (HR 1635). Eases wiretaps, credit report evidence. Quality Assurance in Drug Testing (HR 1706). Standards for drug testing. Comprehensive Antiterrorism (HR 1710). Eases wiretaps, credit evidence. Constitutional Rights Oversight (HR 1738). Creates inspector general review. Prevent Fraud in Health Care (HR 1758). Sharing of medical information. Health Information Modernization (HR 1766). Health Information Network. Counterterrorism Research (HR 1847). New DOJ surveillance and tracking. High Risk Drivers (HR 1866). SSN as common identifier for drivers liscenses. Health Care and Paperwork Reduction (HR 1912). Magnetic ID, SSN/health plan. Immigration in the National Interest (HR 1915). More wiretaps, bank records. Internet Freedom and Family Empowerment (HR 1978). On-line srvc screening. Parental Control Inappropriate Programming(-ed.) (HR 2030). Another V-Chip. -- Senate Bills -- Violent Crime Control (S 3). OK's illegal search, wiretaps by foreign govts. Family Health Insurance Protection (S 7). Democratic health care bill. Exclusionary Rule Limitation (S 54). OK's violations of 4th Amendment. Paperwork Reduction Act (S 244). Government Information Locator Svc (GILS). Immigrant Control (S 269). National registry for workplace verification. Private Long-Term Care (S 294). Creates "health information network". Communications Decency Act (S 314). Outlaws sexual and anonymous messages. High-risk Drivers Act (S 387). National system of driving records, uses SSN. Marking of Plastic Explosives (S 390). Wiretaps terror "material support." Interstate Child Support (S 456). Databank of new hires, SSA link. Illegal Immigration Control (S 580). Wiretaps immigration and smuggling. Child Custody Reform (S 632). Database of all child custody cases. Telecommunications Competition (S 652). Restricts indecent Internet speech. Taxpayer Browsing Protection (S 670). Stops unauthorized tax data viewing. Child Support (S 687). Support obligation database. SSNs related documents. Amend Fair Credit Reporting (S 709). Limits employment credit reports. Study of Internet Pornography (S 714). Replacement for Comm Decency (S.314). Comprehensive Terrorism (S 735). "Roving" wiretaps, Internet bomb info. Economic Opportunity (S 746). Expands National Parent Locator Service. Immigration Enforcement (S 754). Telephone verification for applicant SSNs. Illegal Immigration (S 759). Database non-immigrants' entrance/exit dates. Omnibus Counterterrorism (S 761). Pays for Digital Telephony and wiretaps. Interstate Child Support (S 828). Both parents' SSNs birth/marriage/driver. Real Welfare Reform (S 834). "Designated industries" support obligations. Work and Gainful Employment (S 840). Child support, new hire, SSN documents. Health Information Modernization (S 872). National health info network. Protection of Children (S 892). Criminalizes indecent computer data. Intelligence Authorization (S 922). Credit info, FBI "counterintelligence." Interstate Child Support (S 926). Database of W-4 forms and child support. Healthy Mothers, Healthy Children (S 933). Children's immunization database. Information Technology Management (S 946). Chief Information Officer of OMB. Anti-Electronic Racketeering (S 974). Bans encryption software distribution. National Information Infrastructure (S 982) Newly defined computer crimes. Illegal Immigration Control (S 999). Internal passport for all citizens. - --- End of Listing --- ANNOUNCING: The "MIND YOUR 0WN BUSINESS" audiotext program. 1 - 9 0 0 - C A N - M Y 0 B (1-900-226-6902) Notice the zero digit, not the letter "O." The Feds say you can't have privacy, but we say you CAN "Mind Your 0wn Business!" And now we have a 900 number to reveal new methods to defend your privacy from criminals and tyrants. Sponsored by The Agorist Institute. The cost of each call is just 99 cents per minute, average cost $2.97, average length 3 minutes (August 1995 only. Future messages will be longer.) You must be at least 18 to call or have parental permission. This is a much better deal than you'll get from most psychic or sex lines ;^) The line will be updated by the 1st of each month. By September 1, 1995, our message will be recorded by a professional audio producer, but for now, you get to hear me read the first script. Don't be surprised if we update it during August. Kent J. Kent Hastings, Assistant Director of The Agorist Institute zeus(a)pinsight.com -- http://www.pinsight.com/~zeus/agorist/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMCqAeDTxxI221vktAQEaTAQAitl0r9d6nii64lfdIszWvnePURR0ti9h JsL3pMk+CYwz3CweuVvCXXJKp3TX6P+hkL6kdjt2zJ6axQFAfRcLcl6BqpQcxI7p MnHQbkLFQgI/4t9nM3RxieX5/a4idYtEAZuZh+y3ca160ftxCFLUaP6kordg/KI2 YgvAqrljkOA= =SQWP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

will someone just CUT THE @#$%^&* FOSTER CONSPIRACY THEORIES?? I'm getting F---ING SICK AND TIRED of all the BULL**** that is being posted to this F---ING LIST!!!! does anyone give a flying f--- whether Foster was killed or suicided or hit by a bus?!?!?! WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH CYPHERPUNKS? WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH CODE??? PARRY IS RIGHT. everyone else who disagrees can KISS MY ASS. sign up for the PLAN TO ENCRYPT CYBERSPACE. parry is the man to start with. he will get you started on his campaign like any good drill instructer. oh yes, so many of you pansies need to get into a serious digital BOOT camp. learn some real manly things for a change!!! besides gossiping and tittering like grizzled grandmothers who haven't a clue or a life!!! he's right, little TIMMY MAY hasn't done one @#$%^&* productive thing in the last 5 years after he quit Intel. oh yeah, he is raking in cash off all his little darling stocks, but what the hell does he have to say that is even slightly relevant to coding? my god, here is a guy that barely even knows what linux IS, let alone how to install it. I bet he thinks that "bash" is something you do to the NSA!!! oh yeah, he goes to his silly little "mind masturbating and drug fondling" parties every few days with all the Hoi Poilloi Holier-Than-Thou pricks of the world, the "cum of the net" ejaculating all over each other, hehehehehehe what a bunch of effeminate nobodies... PARRY is the premiere cypherpunk. he should be worshipped by everyone. he has written dozens of RFCS which have made cyberspace a far better place as we know it. if you don't contribute to his solution, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM. PARRY is part of the solution. HINT FOR THE CLUELESS: GET WITH THE PROGRAM. don't you think that you are being the most scurrilous swine for taking up PARRY's time with your filling up this mailing list with GARBAGE? TRASH? EXCREMENT? ODIOUS EFFLUVIA??? don't you know that it cuts into his insanely precious programming time by hours to have to monitor this list closely to see if anyone posted some boneheaded conspiracy theory or insulted him??? that TAKES PRECIOUS TIME THAT HE COULD BE SPENDING TRADING PROGRAMMING TECHNIQUES WITH BRILLIANT PEOPLE WHO KNOW UNIX SOFTWARE AND HOW TO WRITE A CORRECT DNS LOOKUP VIA SOCKET LIBRARIES. are we cypherpunks, or cypherprogrammers? GET A CLUE, PEOPLE. I SWEAR if I see one more FORWARDED ARTICLE TO THIS GROUP, I'M GOING TO MAILBOMB THE WHOLE LIST. that'll teach the @#$^%^&* bastards to mess with MY VALUABLE TIME.

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No Subject
by Ford Prefect 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

perry, of course, is a dysfunctional human "cipher" himself, who couldn't be civil if he was at a tea party of grandmothers. yes, in 15 minutes he would end up screaming and mooning them all because they hadn't heard of Netscape or Chaum or something. what a prick. so he wants to lobby congress and write some code?? well perry, good for you. you just go off on your little excursion. let us know how you are doing. send some postcards to Blacknet, OK??? as for TCM and his invest-in-stocks-and-evade-taxes shtick, it's starting to bore me too. frankly I think that both TCM and PM should take a long, long vacation from the cypherpunks list and go take a cruise together. yes, help patch up that relationship that is so strained lately. it hurts us all to see two grown men fighting each other. make love, not war!!! hehehehe

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Re: PERRY METZGER: YOUR MOMMY IS CALLING YOU HOME
by bshantz＠nwlink.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>I'm tired of Perry. <REST DELETED> I think that any Perry bashing can be taken offline. I don't think that 700 people subscribed to the "I Hate Perry Metzger" list; they subscribed to cypherpunks. If you have anything to say to Perry, tell him in private e-mail. Don't post a milion lines of shit to the list. Get a clue folks... Brad

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It may be time to electrify the floor...
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

... because we seem to be in the throes of a listwide piss-fight. Unless we're the victim of duelling rant generators -- but I don't think this is the case, as they all happened too fast. It's a nice night. Maybe I'll go sit on the back porch and smoke the base-ball-bat Macanudo (cigar) I bought at Erlich's today... See you all in the morning. Don't forget to insulate yourselves, everyone... Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Shipwright Development Corporation, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA (617) 323-7923 "Reality is not optional." --Thomas Sowell >>>>Phree Phil: Email: zldf(a)clark.net http://www.netresponse.com/zldf <<<<<

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"Protect the children" as passphrase to Constitution
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I was reminded the other night by someone of the "'National security' is the root passphrase of the Constitution." The idea being that the normal Constitutional protections are bypassed by invocation of "national security." But it occurs to me that we are seeing a new variant of this: "Protect the children." Some recent examples: - Clinton's Executive Order today which limits advertising of cigarettes, limits the display of tobacco-related symbols and words on t-shirts, baseball caps, billboards, and publically-visible signs at sports events. (There were all kinds of details, most of them blatantly in violation of the First Amendment. I half-watched the Clinton announcement, but didn't take notes...consult your newspaper or the Web.) The critical phrase: "We have to protect the children." (Oh, and one amazing detail: the possible issuance of I.D. cards to all of those under the age of 18. Besides being useful for things like curfews, video tape rental prohibitions, and the cigarette ban, it would lead to I.D. cards for those over 18. naturally (if those over 18 don't have to carry them, then all a child less than 18 has to do is to claim not to have to carry one because he's 18!) - The whole Exon and V-chip debates, now likely to be passed by Congress, are about "protecting children." - and the Oklahoma City bombing, not that I supported it in any way, was seen as especially horrific because of the children that were killed. This means that restrictive legislation, such as bans on explosives information, guns, etc., can be justified as measures to "protect children." And so on. Now clearly this strategy will be welcomed by many. It's hard to argue against children and against the "protection of children." Arguing the Constitutional side is tough when "the children" are at issue. More speculatively, I think Clinton has hit on this strategy as a way to line up support from the Republican majority in Congress on many key issues. There may even be repercussions for welfare and health care issues (which Clinton can also cast as "protect the children" issues). The potential crypto relevance? Look for arguments about limiting access to strong crypto to be more heavily focussed on "pedophiles" and "pornographers." Look for calls to have a national I.D. card--which serves many State-needed purposes (and I don't mean in terms of Revelations). A national I.D. card could then be tied in to GAK/escrow systems. "We have to protect the children." --Tim May Special note: My ISP has changed its domain name from "sensemedia.net" to "got.net" (as in "got milk?"), so I have to again ask you all to bear with me and use my new e-mail address, "tcmay(a)got.net". ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net (Got net?) | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-728-0152 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Corralitos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^756839 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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F*** FOSTER
by anon-remailer＠utopia.hacktic.nl 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

this vince foster thing is BS. total bs. Perry is right. there's not a single smidgeon of honest reporting going on. its just slime being stirred up by internet thugs and rapscallions. let foster rest in peace. multiple people have ruled it was a suicide. perry can attest that it was a suicide. perry can attest that the NSA was not involved. he has seen everything, and if he has an opinion on something, you can take his word that it was based on the FACTS. the FACTS of the case are that FOSTER was fed up with his nothing life, and pulled the trigger and blew his brains out in a park. so what if they couldn't find the brains anywhere? or they are missing a few here and there??? they were splattered on the grass. when there is that much splatter all over the place, you can be sure that the people showing up with the spatula are not going to be that meticulous. they probably did about 5 minutes of scrape, scrape, scaping and then vomited and passed the spatula to the next guy. I mean, cut these guys some slack. the NSA stuff is total, utter poppycock. the NSA has absolutely nothing to do with vince foster. Clinton has nothing to do with foster. Hillary has nothing to do with foster. why, the way people are ranting you'd think there is a major political scandal going on. NOTHING IS GOING ON HERE. please step aside, and move along. PLEASE MOVE ALONG FOLKS, THERE'S NOTHING MORE TO SEE HERE. the fact that foster may have had access to intelligence secrets such as cryptography is IRRELEVANT to the cypherpunks. the fact that a scandal may have taken place is IMMATERIAL to our goals. our goals are to WRITE CODE. FOR GOD'S SAKE, WRITE THAT CODE. I don't care if you have to create code generators. CODE, CODE, CODE. post the code to the cypherpunks list. talk about the code. critique the code. study the code. salvation for all humanity lies in finding the magic formula. and we can't find it, UNLESS WE CODE, DAMMIT. perry understands this. some people think that there is a magic government program that will solve poverty, give freedom to everyone in the US, and solve P=NP. they're WRONG. the government cannot do any of this. BUT PROGRAMMERS CAN!!!! put your programming hats on. if you haven't banged a keyboard a half million times, fired up VI to edit a C file for the ten zillionth time, NO PROGRESS IS BEING MADE. ITS AS SIMPLE AS THAT. if you haven't compiled something recently, RECOMPILE IT JUST TO BE SAFE. we just aren't making any progress without CODE, CODE, CODE. we have an utter shortage of code. the problem is not politics, but LACK OF CODE. anyone can look at the net today and see there is a HORRENDOUS SHORTAGE OF CODE IN CYBERSPACE. we have to train everyone to program NOW or the future is lost to the incompetent. we will be back to Vic 64's if people don't keep up the constant programming. software is the key to salvation. every second devoted to the vince foster thing is a precious second taken away from code. NOTHING POSITIVE CAN COME OF PREOCCUPATION WITH CONSPIRACY THEORIES. PERRY CAN ATTEST TO THAT. remember when PRZ was getting indicted? perry was right on then too. some people were scared shitless and raving out of their minds, saying the world would end tomorrow, but NOT PERRY. perry has NO FEAR. he said that we should CODE, CODE, CODE. and you know what??? HE'S RIGHT. if people followed PERRY, we would not be in this @#$%^&* predicament we are in. if we could just get it so that every person who signed up to the internet could CODE, we would be home free. salvation. utopia!!! then we could rest a little. but only a little, otherwise the NSA will beat us again at the code race. once again: forget Foster. nothing, absolutely nothing about this scandal could possibly help our cause of trying to expose corruption in government to the mainstream populace, to keep them better informed, to put limits on the NSA, to show that they have been involved in horrendous abuses, that there is something utterly smelly in our government. FORGET IT. NOTHING LIKE THIS WILL EVER BE PROVEN OR ESTABLISHED. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE, JUST LIKE PERRY SAYS SO. when anything new comes of this foster stuff, just remember that perry predicted way ahead of time that it would amount to NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING. and the more you preoccupy your brains with this TOTAL MINUTIA, the less you are coding. STOP IT RIGHT NOW. just remember, if you don't, you will be SORRY, and when you come crying back to Perry that nothing of value came of all your conspiracy mongering, he will have NO SYMPATHY, in fact if he had a gun around he'd probably be tempted to blow your brains out. and you can just FORGET about the spatula.

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