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World-wide GAK
by Jeffrey Gold 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

For those who thought GAK was merely a local political issue, isolated to those barbarians in the USA, one that they could afford to ignore and morally refuse to address -- Quelle surprise! It's spreading: FRANCE PROPOSES KEY ENCRYPTION LAW The French government has proposed a law that would mandate a key-recovery system for all encrypted electronic documents, a move that is opposed by the business community and the European Commission. Earlier this month, the European Commission rejected the key-recovery approach to encryption, which some believe would make it easier for competitors to gain access to a company's business secrets. "I do not say this is the best system," says the chief of France's Central Service for the Security of Information Systems. "It is the least bad in trying to find a balance between national-security interests, economic interests and the protection of personal privacy." (Wall Street Journal 20 Oct 97)

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(no subject)
by Scott L. Haire 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Whats the deal on checking out DL info. on the web? I'd like to know what available info is on the web concerning my DL.

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Further Costs of War
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- A few more comments on World War II. Had World War II been prevented, along with deaths of 50 million or so people, we would also have been spared (in the United States) income tax withholding. Previously the only people paying income tax were fairly wealthy and there was no withholding. I doubt very much that income tax withholding would have been accepted if the War were not used to justify it. ("You don't want to pay taxes? What are you, a traitor?") Without income tax withholding, it would have been hard to get to the point where we are now. The U.S. Federal government consumes about 40% of the GDP. When the resources aren't wasted outright, they are used to perpetrate evil in the world. To put this in perspective, multiply your income by 1.4. For example, if your income is $50,000, that would be another $20,000 you would have every single year. Where could you spend that money? If you simply saved it at 3% a year, in 30 years you would have about $950,000. That's all for doing exactly what you do now. Who needs national health insurance? Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNHX525aWtjSmRH/5AQF3TQf+LWjfFPOsg3oOk2B00v9gFCiQumz7ZELg o+JFTi9sepLrhAnA7GdsnzPU2yPmJ5Q9w0j08AaBCEb29a7FNt/xX18V2XUGav9J KWVK1CTDTLBeC1iX8rUhnqhidV/pIZjIg860LllEg7T8jdQfwaaz+EeoH/egod6f C2Nd8D9wFlyGGxh992stC5/aicxTxwzVX9UgAox5iwdQIE0WEFRj+KAoBAfd+v6t BQ0qhLVpHmGKRnLO4I2IYXBwzIvzRtOcYAGcy7A/k/XbVSvKs9I7vHMhJAFUDqWw RECgxQKtKy1DK1S/xOed5oW/m52YvvIez2NDLsYoGAVeCuLNJja5Xw== =xefg -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Factor a 2048-bit number
by Antonomasia 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Monty Cantsin > Hint 2: There is an observation which suggests the number may be > factored. A one word hint will reveal this observation. > (I want to hold off on Hint 3 for a little while in case somebody is > already working on the problem. If anybody wants me to withhold Hint > 3, please post a message to the list and I may do so. It seems to me > that it will be more fun to solve without Hint 3.) > Wouldn't it be neat to actually factor a 2048-bit number which was the > product of two large primes? The wording of the original challenge suggested there was a trick to this particular factorisation. My guess that q=p+2 was wrong, so square rooting (cheap) and using the 2 nearest odd integers was a loser. -- ############################################################## # Antonomasia ant(a)notatla.demon.co.uk # # See http://www.notatla.demon.co.uk/ # ##############################################################

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index.html
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

CNN logo Navigation Infoseek/Big Yellow Pathfinder/Warner Bros Barnes and Noble Main banner rule POLL: YOUNG ADULTS WANT BETTER GOVERNMENT graphic November 19, 1997 Web posted at: 10:57 p.m. EST (0357 GMT) WASHINGTON (AP) -- Most young adults don't necessarily want to reduce government's role in America but want it to do a better job, according to a new poll. As for themselves, however, they see their future not in government work but in private business. The survey by pollsters Peter Hart and Robert Teeter was released Wednesday at the kickoff of a project by corporations and nonprofit groups to increase public trust in government. In the poll, 40 percent of respondents said government can help them achieve their goals in life, compared with the 48 percent who said government programs and policies are a hindrance. But a large majority, 71 percent, answered that government could help with better leadership and management, and 60 percent would prefer improving the government over simply reducing its size and power. On working in government themselves, 66 percent said a career in the private sector is more appealing. The telephone survey of 505 Americans between the ages of 18 and 34 was conducted October 29 and 30. The margin of error is plus or minus 4.5 percentage points. Copyright 1997 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. rule Related site: Note: Pages will open in a new browser window * Council for Excellence in Government homepage External sites are not endorsed by CNN Interactive. _________________________________________________________________ Infoseek search ____________________ ____ ____ _________________________________________________________________ rule Message Boards Sound off on our message boards You said it... [INLINE] rule To the top © 1997 Cable News Network, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Terms under which this service is provided to you.

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Re: Nobuki Nakatuji
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jonathan Wienke wrote: >Due to his distinctive writing style, John Young should probably have >his anonymous posts translated into English by Nobuki if he truly >wishes to remain anonymous. Good god, Jonathan, you trying to get the JY-box TWA 800ed on CIA-TV Barney? Send fee for using TM nym. Spoofing persistent identities, writing style, secret thoughts and hidden agendas are adult-nut-rated kid's stuff here, the weirdo pitches the easiest of all, especially the puretext missionary position in white socks style of blackhearts which ever vaunts itself best See Jane Read Spot. Who do you think "John Young" is if not a machinic composite of all previous, current and conceivable and abortable of cpunks, and pseudo-cpunks, extra bile-sauced with apish objective journalism gone stale, foul, rancid and roadkill tastier, by all the crazed truly knowns and unknowns passing through claoked in incredibly ordinary, goofily Anglicized, hide-shame names of the world's English-imitating kill-native cultures. To wit: "John Young," no other vapid pseudonym have ever been so often used to hide god's evilist holies. Except the other subscribers.

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Re: Overcoming War with Information
by Secret Squirrel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Monty Cantsin wrote: > The post-Yugoslav governments probably >cooperated in creating hatreds and division to lock in their rule. > >This can be hard to study because usually we don't have access to the >people doing this, their files, or their communications. Hmmmmmmmmm... So whose files and communications do "we" have access to? And who is "we"? Nerthus -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNHRaxOFWwZe05jcJAQGAtAf+M9WiR+ldO0Wc2q7aj49N1jtugEGlALcc 6aYbRnzv7PaRqF+oexamjpO0YNCH/YAVIrAX29df/mPDs3yUZxwPZ2XaKKmfgIK9 3GVIXpv7ZyCbspPffe3hvzpWuu/myoQakL2RLm9YVbxg3gv94tIBrwYU0/Fki4CD 8b/8B0kmetBpAmbHSsdCv7MmXo0nCozX9JsNWLqwKFqVVWmjBrH8MCO6DPeKAXQT 3myXVaeJ3giUEJUUxxik6FNfxNEqCNB11pCO+Eo2AnIZ5q9IrMvDn0/Gq9p+v+OA J5Knyq+/Ckvq3C/zbRvi6NQSjuGjya9qe1Hdl+COsubrbPRk5YQiOg== =jzF7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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(No Subject)
by Benjamin Chad Wienke 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Copyrights and Wrongs, from The Netly News
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

********* http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/opinion/0,1042,1588,00.html The Netly News (http://netlynews.com/) November 20, 1997 Copyrights and Wrongs By Declan McCullagh (declan(a)well.com) If you think nothing of trading copyrighted software with your friends, think again. A new law passed by Congress will make even casual copyright breach a crime punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 and five years in a federal prison. While you're cooling your heels in Club Fed, you'll have plenty of time to consider your misdeeds -- which in this case could have been making just three copies of Adobe Photoshop (cost: $389). The legislation covers anyone who copies compact discs, videocasettes or computer software worth at least $1,000. The No Electronic Theft Act, which President Clinton is expected to sign later this month, will be the first law in the history of the U.S. to imprison copiers looking to save (not make) a few bucks. The President's signature will come not a nanosecond too soon for the software and recording industry lobbyists who have demanded this legislation for years. "The function of the criminal copyright law is to deter people from commercial-scale piracy, just as it is to penalize those who prosecutors take to court," says Mark Traphagen, vice president of the Software Publishers Association, the software industry's largest trade organization. [...] ------------------------- Declan McCullagh Time Inc. The Netly News Network Washington Correspondent http://netlynews.com/

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Re: Digital Fingerprinting
by Hal 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm not sure how to do it for software, but for novels it should be easy to fingerprint. Every couple of pages the author writes a sentence twice in different forms. This would not take a great deal of extra effort on the part of the author. Software can then choose from the alternative variations in different patterns to produce a unique fingerprint for every copy. There would seem to be two approaches to removing the fingerprint. One would be re-writing every sentence in the novel. The other would be to collect enough copies to identify all of the sentences which have variations. Most of the mathematics of fingerprinting research is oriented around figuring out how many different points of variation there must be to be secure against a certain number of copies of the fingerprinted item being compared. Perhaps a similar approach could be applied to software, where in many cases a couple of statements could be trivially interchanged, or other kinds of simple transformations could be manually generated. Those could be marked by the programmers without too much extra work. I agree with Doug that fully automated fingerprinting schemes which post process "vanilla" documents are going to be forced to rely on security through obscurity, probably a losing battle. Also as Doug says the viability of legal sanctions against the source of fingerprinted docs is questionable. Maybe it could work if you had just a few copies out and the people who were given copies can be seriously held to non-disclosure agreements. Hal

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