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A Clarification on My Loyalty and Allegiance
by an12070＠anon.penet.fi 27 Nov '93

27 Nov '93

Cypherpunks, I thought that the infamous L. Detweiler had stopped his posting, but it appears that he is back, and more neurotic than ever. I thought that it was the time for me to make another post relating to him, the list in general, and LD's obsession with pseudospoofing. OK, first, LD is pissing me off, as, I am sure, he is doing to many others out there in net.land. His raves are nothing if not persistant and ever increasingly long. I, being the founding member of the Colorado Cypherpunks, am not particularly prowd of him being affiliated with the group. I don't hate him, as some of teh others on this list apparently do, I just think he is a very persistant pest, a fly in the ointment. I think it is important to remember that in every movement there are fanatics, and in the best of intentions are those who would do harm while trying to crusade the good. I believe that Detweiler is one such person. He is experiencing some very serious problems with what he believes to be a concerted effort by some devilish cabal to warp and mung his brain through the rampant use of pseudospoofing. OK, fine if he believes that, I cannot keep him from thinking that some of us are emmisaries of Satan. I can, however, wish that he would leave me the hell alone and stop posting these long, drawn-out core dumps of his mangled psyche. I can ask him to stop his madness, though I know that it will only get me on his bad side, and possibly put me in physical danger (since I live in his vicinity, lucky me). I think that's enough on Detweiler himself, and I hope I don't have to talk about him anymore. On to pseudospoofing. I think that it exists, and that it's denial is just plain naive. The world is a non-friendly place, and there are dangers out there, and people who will exploit every aspect of the system to trick, decieve, and mangle others. This should not come as a shock to anyone on the list, since we are generally on (or close to) the cutting edge of new technologies and methods to use those technologies. I, myself have never participated in any kind of conspiracy with intent to confuse, nor have i ever posted under a name other than my own, and my anon.penet.fi identity. I have not posted as anyone that I am not, and have no intention to do so. I do not, however, object to the use of these technologies, or to the act of pseudospoofing. It cannot hope to be prevented, since there are always people out there who will figure out how to exploit the system to do their bidding. Yes, it's true, I am coming out in favor of pseudospoofing. I do not object to it's use, on the premise that it cannot be stopped, and it rarely does hard, aside from those (LD) whose minds are bent by the mere thought that it is happening. Enough of that. Now onto the list. I put some serious thought into dropping from the list for the past week or so, and I have decided _not_ to leave bacause sometime there are bits of information that I get from the list that are simply not available anywhere else. Some of the members of the list are, however, pissing me off. The list has degraded from a band of freedom fighters with things they cared about in jeopardy to a bunch of fucking children bickering over the most pathetic of things. I hope that the recent barrage of postings is not indicative of what is to come. If it is, then I may just reconsider and leave. I think that's all I have to say for now... I just wanted to let people know what I was thinking, and set the record straight if there are any members who think I am still on LD's side (which I was for quite some time). ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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RE: META: Filter Detweiler
by Pat Farrell 27 Nov '93

27 Nov '93

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I have to "strongly disagree" with Hal's suggestion that we source filter LD or anyone else. While I am as sick of him as the rest, I think that Sandy's Pledge is a much better idea. I've been observing my own version of the Pledge for about a month. I even thought about ignoring Hal's post. But it suggests something that is contrary to the fundamental ideas that I believe in: we should be using technology to improve privacy and our personal freedom. This starts with freedom of speach. The obvious solution is for each person to put LD, SBoxx, etc. in their own kill file. If your mail client doesn't support a kill file, you can always use the "d" command. Or find a client that supports kill files. Or even write some code! For folks that are paying good money to retreive trash messages that are simply going to be deleted, I suggest you look for an alternative service. There are many flat-rate services. Netcom is one, and I use it instead of the "free" services that GMU provides for all students. Send mail to "info_deli_server(a)netcom.com" with the body "get PDIAL" to get a list of servers accross the country and some international providers as well. Pat Pat Farrell Grad Student pfarrell(a)netcom.com Department of Computer Science George Mason University, Fairfax, VA Public key availble via finger #include <standard.disclaimer> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQBVAgUBLPeMdh9bGnaOb/KNAQEfywH8D81bolvoKbZVf1Mz8ifCPkVDBARJo17r OGPt43WkZzTlUFCBqrZnMwdPoUhSNOm+WZbP6xe4V6lC6POZyOMpvA== =a1zU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Pat Farrell Grad Student pfarrell(a)netcom.com Department of Computer Science George Mason University, Fairfax, VA Public key availble via finger #include <standard.disclaimer>

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[NFJAD@acad3.alaska.edu: Republic of Georgia]
by aq528＠yfn.ysu.edu 12 Oct '93

12 Oct '93

================= Begin forwarded message ================= From: NFJAD(a)acad3.alaska.edu (Joe Davis) To: rita(a)eff.org Subject: Republic of Georgia Date: Tue, 12 Oct Hi, Speaking of fronteers and freedom, here is a need for communications equiptment for which I have been unable to get any direct help. Any chance of posting this on the EFF? Good Wishes, Joe Joe Davis nfjad(a)alaska.bitnet Joe Davis Box 15301, Fritz Creek, AK 99603 (907) 235.4069 Email: afcrrjoe(a)aol.com Oct. 12, 1993 Senator Stevens Washington DC Attn: Senator Stevens Anna Kerttula Anna KerttulaUs replacement Dear Senator Stevens, It is appalling what goes on in Georgia. It is a chaos of crime and needs direct attention now. Is there nothing that the US can do? Cannot Russia control her own boarders and disallow weapons and soldiers to assist in the murder of Georgians? How can we loan money to the Russians while this continues? And where is the United Nations during this critical time? I am faxing you the latest and perhaps the last information from the office of Mr. Shevardnadze and his assistant, Dr. Gomelauri. They need medical help, communications help, but mostly, UN peace keeping forcer and Russia to keep her word on helping to keep the peace. I realize the Russians have had their own problems this past week but that does not excuse them for their lack of help and allowing of arms and soldiers to attack the Georgians. Please read these two short letters I just received via email. Please pass them on to Dr. Butros-Ghali of the UN as I have neither his fax number or email address. I am very actively searching for grants relative to the communications needs of Georgia and as soon as I can find one I will apply and notify you of the same. Is there a way to get equipment for a node over there now? You will see that they need the freedom to communicate. Dr. Gomelauri of the Georgian Academy of Sciences working in conjunction with Mr. Shevardnadze would be the first level of priority to receive such equipment. If I can be of any assistance, please call on me. To sum up this letter: 1) Georgia needs peace keeping enforcement now. 2) Georgian needs humanitarian relief now 3) Georgia needs independent communication abilities now 4) Georgia needs American friendship Thank you, Joe Davis Attached: letter from Dr. Gomelauri letter from Mr. Shevardnadze both posted for general distribution From: ggom Subject: Re: URGENT from Paul M. Palo Alto From: ggom(a)coira.kheta.georgia.su Dear Paul, Thanks to you and all who are trying to support democratically- oriented forces in Georgia and personally Mr. Shevardnadze. Every day the situation is more and more tragic in Georgia. Our entrance in the Mow. computer node (the only canal to the Internet) is practically closed. I received your mail after 3 days you send it to me. WE NEED DIRECT ENTRANCE IN TO THE INTERNET to give the possibility our users including Brian to send you information from here promptly. The port POTI was occupied earlier few days ago by Kobalia supported by killers, Kazak and North-Caucasus Russian citizens. So Georgia can not be reached from the Black Sea. That means hunger will start fast. Separatist forces continued to move to the east. Pleas try to explain to ISF it is vital for Georgia TODAY to keep the node GGOM(a)CIT.GE in operation. My proposal about the Support and Renovation today is vital not only for the Academy but whole country. Big plans for future with many VAXes may not be needed if Georgia does not exist at all. To my Proposal satellite line must be added because as I see the dish of Georgian Foundation will not arrive this year. Please try to find someone who will donate CIT few mobile laptops (second hand PC/XT compatible) with modems, satellite canal and necessary hardware + software. You know we will put it in operation in few hours. This is tremendously important. We can not reach Moscow node few days so I am afraid you will get my mail too late if ever. Here is very important information from the Head of the State for the posting worldwide on the networks. Please continue to do this. George Tbilisi October 03, 1993 From: ggom Subject: Tragedy in Svaneti - Georgian Caucasus From: ggom(a)coira.kheta.georgia.su D E C L A R A T I O N On September 16, 1993 the Gudauta side once again violated the July 27 Sochi cease-fire agreement and began a large-scale assault upon the city of Sukhumi. Disarmed pursuant to the above agreement the defenders of Sukhumi after selflessly fighting a fierce battle left the city along with the tens of thousands of civilians. However, the Gudauta separatists were not content with this and continued hostilities in the direction of Ochamchira and Gali. The only safe area where the refugees could hide themselves from the barbaric atrocities, perpetrated by the mercenaries hired by the Gudauta side, was the mountainous region of Svaneti. Therefore, over one hundred thousand refugees among whom the overwhelming majority are women, children and old people are currently seeking shelter in the mountains. This created a very difficult situation in Svaneti. It has been snowing for some time now. Dozens of people have already died of hunger and cold, and what is particularly tragic there are infants among the dead. The Georgian leadership is taking all possible measures to help people. Food and warm clothes as well as various conveyances to bring the refugees out of Svaneti are being sent there. This, however, is not enough. The acute economic crisis raging in Georgia makes it impossible to use every means to save those in trouble. Unless immediate decisive measures are taken, the current disastrous situation will turn tragic. The overall situation is being seriously aggravated by the supporters of the ex-president, who have cut off the major communication arteries. Considering the present situation Svaneti shall be declared the zone of distress. I request all the neighboring countries, the people of good will - to empathize with the Georgians in trouble. Do not let tens of thousands of children, women, old men die of hunger and cold. The quickest and the most convenient way to bring them out is by helicopters. However, Georgia has only a few. We are also in dire need of warm clothes, foodstuffs and medications. I want you to know that Georgia expects and believes that you will help promptly. The delay is tantamount to death. May God bless you. Eduard Shevardnadze. -- -=> mech(a)eff.org <=- Stanton McCandlish Electronic Frontier Foundation Online Activist & SysOp NitV-DC BBS 202-232-2715, Fido 1:109/? IndraNet 369:111/1, 14.4V32b 16.8ZyX

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Re: EFF GIF file recall n (fwd)
by ssteele 12 Oct '93

12 Oct '93

Hi Stanton. Duncan asked: >Didn't the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals decide that the transport and sale >provisions (unknowing posession) of the federal kiddie porn law were >unconstitutional? Wouldn't a warning like yours risk converting unknowing >to knowing posession. The case to which Duncan is referring is U.S. v. X-Citement Video, Inc., decided last December in Pasadena, CA. The Ninth District Court didn't hold that the transport and sale provisions of the federal child porn statute were unconstitutional. What it did hold was that the statute was unconstitutional in that it did not require knowledge by the prosecuted individual of the age of the depicted youth. The court was clear to distinguish the lack of a knowledge requirement of the age of the depicted youth (which was unconstitutional) from the lack of knowledge that the files were sent (in this case mailed, which the court held was not really an issue.) My warning to sysops simply said that these files were listed on a federal indictment, so the "lack of knowledge of the age of the depicted people" defense remains -- I did not identify the people depicted as being under the age of 18. (I couldn't have done so -- I haven't seen the files. I was only passing on the info contained on the indictment.) In addition, provisions of a federal statute are not officially unconstitutional in all jurisdictions until the U.S. Supreme Court declares them to be so. (In other words, the court's decision is only binding on the 9th Circuit.) Shari P.S. Say hi to the 'punks for me. I really enjoyed the list, but the volume was just prohibitive. -- -=> mech(a)eff.org <=- Stanton McCandlish Electronic Frontier Foundation Online Activist & SysOp NitV-DC BBS 202-232-2715, Fido 1:109/? IndraNet 369:111/1, 14.4V32b 16.8ZyX

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Pat Townson's latest escapades
by jgd＠dixie.com 10 Oct '93

10 Oct '93

Thought you guys might be interested in seeing Pat the Moderator's latest escapades. Just when you thought he couldn't get any more sleazy. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DIGITAL DETECTIVE 2241 W. Howard #208 Chicago, IL 60645 Phone: 312-465-0707 Fax: 312-743-0002 I wish to announce my recent aquisition of some databases which are primarily used by skip-tracing, investigative and government agencies to locate people, any assets they may have, and other pertinent and personal details of their lives. These databases are being made available to anyone who wishes to have access to them. The charges are simply being passed along, 'at cost' based on what I am paying. First, a description of what is available and the cost for access. Then, information on how to obtain the information you want. SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER TRACING: =============================== You provide an SSN. I will advise you of all the names which have been used with this SSN, and the addresses which go with each. Or it can be the other way around: you supply an exact name and address (it can sometimes be a former address), and I will supply you with the SSN used by that person. Cost for each lookup, either direction is $60.00 PEOPLE FINDER: ============== You provide a name. Any name okay, but very common names will render a useless list. Middle initials and last known address is requested if possible. You'll receive a listing of every person who has that name, along with other data: New address if they moved; Telephone number provided the number is published; Residence type; Length of residence; Gender; Date of birth; Up to four other household members and their dates of birth. For additional information, People Finder also can provide a neighbor listing which includes up to ten neighbors, their addresses, phone numbers and residence types. The People Finder database has 120 million names, 80 million house- holds and 61 million telephone numbers. It can be searched by telephone number only: You provide the phone number, I will respond with the person's profile and neighbor listing. Ot it can be searched by address only, with the same results. Cost for each lookup is based on how extensive the search is. Within a single state only, $80 Checking two or three states, $95 Checking nationwide, $120 Address or phone trace, $50 (either one) Both address/phone trace $90 People Finder comes with a guarentee: if I cannot produce at least one person with the name you request plus an address for that person, then there is no charge. CONSUMER CREDIT REPORTS: ======================== Consumer Credit reports availale from one bureau, $60 Consumer Credit reports available from three bureaus, $100 I need two things: 1. The name and address of the person, plus SSN if possible. 2. A *signed* statement that your request is for bonafide, legal reasons, i.e. you are considering an extension of credit to the person, or possibly employing them, etc. I cannot proceed without this signed statement. OTHER DATABASE FEATURES: ======================== Has someone ever filed bankruptcy? The database will tell you if they have or not. Not all federal districts are yet installed but for those that are in the database, I can get you the details: Any one district $40 Checking all districts avail. $160 Commercial Credit reports available on any business in file, $95 About fourteen million businesses and corporations included. Criminal History records available at $75-100 per jurisdiction you request searched. Want to know if someone has ever been in prison? Want to know if someone has ever been sued, or been a defendant in a criminal action? I need the exact name, SSN and DOB of the person. (If needed, get the SSN and DOB by using the lookups mentioned earlier.) If you have a good idea *where* such action or incarceration may have taken place, it will greatly reduce your costs in using this database. Death Records can be provided in various formats: By SSN only - is the holder of that SSN deceased or not? $30 By name - a more detailed account of their demise $40 Drivers Records can be pulled but the exact name and DOB is essential; otherwise if you have the full driver's license number, the search can be reversed, providing a name and DOB plus address. (Then use People Finder address trace on them.) $65 Education and degree verification is possible, and frequently used to expose those people who are not what they claim to be. $35 Real Property Asset Locator database $75 I can do this, but need to know *which* areas to search. With this information, you know whether or not it is advisable to sue someone 'for everything he has got' or not. Who is the real owner of the corporation with which you are having a dispute? The name(s) and address(es) of the officers of corporations are available in many places. Sometimes you get their home address and phone number in the process. If you know what state the corporation is based in $45 If you wish to have a search of 30 states done $165 Would you like to know if soeone is getting workers comp money? If you know what state they are likely to get it from, I can verify it (only in selected areas) $63 Uniform Commercial Code filings by state $52 VIN (vehicle identification numbers) checked by state $50 ================================== Now those are the basic items available in the databases. There are other features and further, more detailed searches can be done at the rate of $100 per hour. Some caveats: You have to pay for the lookup whether or not it is successful because *I* have to pay each time I access the databases. The better the information you provide to start with, the more likely you will get positive results. The exception is 'People Finder'. If I cannot provide you with *at least one name* which matches your request or *at least one person* at the specified address or phone number, then there is no charge. 'People Finder' may or may not include unlisted/non-pub phone numbers. Don't count on it. It won't work with PO Box addresses. Regards SSN Trace, it does not work well if the person to whom the number is issued is less than 21-22 years of age. The number has to be circulating for a year or so in order for it to make its way into the database. Meaning, a person has to have credit, have entered into various agreements, etc ... and they may have done this as early as age 18, but best results are obtained on these traces if the person is at least a few years older. On the Drivers Records checks, CA only lists names without addresses and MA/GA are difficult to work with. If you want a credit bureau report on someone, I repeat: you must send a signed statement (by fax is okay) stating that you have a bonafide, legal reason for this information. Spouses are *not* legally entitled to the credit bureau file of their 'other half' without permission. ================== How to obtain the information you want: Payment can be by credit card, electronic funds transfer from your USA bank account, or check sent with your inquiry. If you pay by credit card or EFT, then transactions can be handled by phone or fax entirely. With your request, include your VISA/MC number, the name on the account, and date of expiration. Or, include the name of your bank, the exact name on the checking account, and *all* the numbers across the bottom of your check. Telephone: 312-465-0707 or Fax: 312-743-0002 Generally, your search results will be returned to you within 24-36 hours under most conditions. If you prefer to send a letter, you can include your check or relevant credit card information in the letter addressed to: Patrick Townson 2241 West Howard Street #208 Chicago, IL 60645 ------------------------------------------------------ Information should be available to everyone, not just the lawyers and bankers and government agencies. I'll provide information to anyone, at anytime from the categories above. Hope to hear from you soon with your requests. Here's to successful snooping! Get the goods on your friends and enemies alike. An imposter/fraud/con-artist on the net? Expose them in a detailed message with stuff you get from the database. Patrick Townson for DIGITAL DETECTIVE -- John De Armond, WD4OQC | For a free sample magazine, send Performance Engineering Magazine(TM) | a digest-size 52 cent SASE Marietta, Ga "Hotrods'n'computers" | (Domestic) to PO Box 669728 jgd(a)dixie.com "What could be better?" | Marietta, GA 30066 Email may be published at my sole discretion.

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Re: PGP/Constitutional Defense, Take IV (fwd)
by Mike Godwin 30 Sep '93

30 Sep '93

EFF TO DEFEND CRYPTO RIGHTS LEGALLY Washington, D.C. -- The Electronic Frontier Foundation has committed itself this week to legal defense efforts in response to what is apparently a U.S. government campaign against the use and export of cryptographic technology. EFF's response to the anti-cryptography campaign, which has been directed initially against the "Pretty Good Privacy" (PGP) encryption program written by Phil Zimmermann, is three-fold: o EFF and EFF board members will immediately contribute funds to Phil Zimmermann's current legal expenses as they relate to constitutional issues, and will encourage others to make donations for this legal effort. o EFF will continue to vigorously investigate the facts of the PGP case and other cryptography-related cases that may arise, in order to spotlight the constitutional issues raised by such cases. o EFF is now planning to launch in the near future a First Amendment campaign aimed both at raising funds to support legal work on the Constitutional issues raised by these cases, and at educating policymakers and the general public about need to reform our outmoded export control laws . The basic facts of the PGP case(s) are as follows: The Customs Bureau has interviewed Phil Zimmermann and others involved in PGP. A San Jose grand jury, convened by Assistant US Attorney William Keane, subpoenaed documents relating to PGP from Zimmermann, as well as ViaCrypt and Austin Code Works, two companies who intend to offer commercial products related to PGP. Finally, the State Department has sent a letter to the Austin Code Works requiring them to register as an arms dealer, even if they don't plan to export cryptography. In light of these developments, the Electronic Frontier Foundation Board of Directors met in Austin on Sept 22-23 to plan EFF's response. EFF's Board of Directors believes that this case may involve fundamental issues in the application of the U.S. Constitution to digital media. At stake is the right of privacy, public access to secure cryptography, the right to publish digital writings, and the right of equal protection under the law. We are resolved to take this matter very seriously. For this reason, EFF will undertake a vigorous investigation of the facts in this and any other PGP related cases which might arise. If the Grand Jury issues indictments that would, in the view of EFF, threaten the future of digital liberty, we are prepared to assist in the case and any others which might have similar adverse effects. We are also prepared to seek to amend the export laws to protect constitutional speech and the right to disseminate and use encryption to protect the citizens' right to privacy and to the security of their communications. In the short run, EFF will assist Phil and others involved with PGP to find criminal defense attorneys, explore ways to get any cases handled pro bono publico, or for expenses only, and contribute funds to Phil and other possible defendants for preindictment constitutional research, and we encourage others to do the same. As of this announcement, several thousand dollars have been pledged by EFF and EFF board members including John Gilmore, Mitchell Kapor, John Perry Barlow. In the near future, EFF will launch a national campaign designed to provide legal and financial support for cases or legislative efforts that would promote the Constitutionally guaranteed rights to develop, discuss, and use cryptographic technology. We urge you to help Phil Zimmermann in preparing his constitutional defense by contacting Phil's lawyer, Philip Dubois (dubois(a)csn.org, +1 303 444 3885, or 2305 Broadway, Boulder, CO 80304, USA). He is accepting legal defense contributions relating directly to Phil's defense as an individual. Board of Directors Electronic Frontier Foundation

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SKIPJACK IN POPULAR SCI
by Sandy 16 Sep '93

16 Sep '93

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SANDY SANDFORT Reply to: ssandfort(a)attmail.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Cypherpunks, There is a short piece about Skiptap, er, Skipjack, in the electronics section of the October "Popular Science." It has a pretty good diagram and a photo of the Mykotronx chip. It says "Bill Clinton himself decided that the U.S. government will promote a new encoding chip for communications." It also quotes a guy from NIST who says, "Once you accept the fact that law enforcement has to do its job, this is a good solution." (Fortunately, Cypherpunks generally *don't* accept that "fact.") A vice president at Mykotronx, John Droge, tried to create the impression that Skipjack just sort of happened to them. He also gave away the real party at interest. He said, "They [the NSA] came to us with a neat equation and said, `Here you go.'" The article mentioned that 85% of the comments at recent federal hearings were hostile or skeptical. Amazingly, the article never quoted May, Hughes or Gilmore. Where has this writer been? S a n d y >>>>>> Please send e-mail to: ssandfort(a)attmail.com <<<<<< ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Re: Joke of the Day
by doug＠netcom.com 16 Sep '93

16 Sep '93

an23412(a)anon.penet.fi said: >My actual horoscope for today: Uh-oh...your anonymity is partially compromised; we can now narrow down your identity 91.7 percent more closely than before! A few more slips like that and we'll have it down to one of several thousand choices... Speaking of privacy violations, a coworker relates a story from his father (ok, just a FOAF story, but it's still interesting): He needed to find his wife, who'd headed off for some errand and thence to the airport, leaving her spending cash at home. He called her on her cellular car phone, but she'd turned it off. He called Cellular One and explained the problem, and they told him over the phone where she was...he sped off and caught up with her. Although this was handy for him, it's an obvious privacy problem for Cellular One to tell someone where one of their customers is. Doug

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No Subject
by Anonymous 16 Sep '93

16 Sep '93

Hi, Can someone clue me in to a location of a VMS version of PGP? Thanks

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Joke of the Day
by an23412＠anon.penet.fi 15 Sep '93

15 Sep '93

My actual horoscope for today: "A paradox: Someday, millions will read your words, and yet you shall be anonymous! Your ability to mediate makes you friends with opposing parties." The joke of the day from an AP report on the veep's Information Highway press conference: "American industry already is out front in high-tech development, but a fear exists that better coordinated government-industry relationships in other countries may give an edge to foreign competition." ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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