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The Register - Pain in the RSA
by Jim Choate 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/7/22188.html -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion. Edmund Burke (1784) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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CNN.com - Senate passes anti-terrorism legislation - October 12, 2001
by Jim Choate 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/10/12/ret.senate.antiterror/index.html -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion. Edmund Burke (1784) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Slashdot | NAI to Sell Off PGP Product Line
by Jim Choate 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

http://slashdot.org/articles/01/10/12/0129228.shtml -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion. Edmund Burke (1784) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: RIAA Safeweb Ping
by mikecabot＠fastcircle.com 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

> main1colo45-core2-oc48.lga2.above.net (216.200.127.174) (New York, NY) This last one above (216.200.127.174) is a colocated server at above.net in NYC. >From there, using a small piece of IP redirector software that they call "Triangle Boy", Safeweb just bounces packets around their network. > > About half the pings timed out before the last hop at: > > 208.184.48.173.safeweb.com (San Jose, CA) > > A few hit a "private" address after 208.184.48.173: > > 10.100.0.2 (no location) Likely just an internal Proxy-less netblock.... this is done often for private, non-routable IP addresses within a network. In other words, packets route ONLY in the internal network, routers are programmed to ignore any packets within such netblocks. > > before ending at: > > 64.124.150.130.safeweb.com (San Jose, CA) > > Interpretation is needed for: > > 1. How much about the Safeweb stations is true and how much cloaking. It's all true until you hit the colocated box. Then it's all cloaking. > 2. Why some pings timed out and others didn't. ICMP squelching is why.... you can selectively top ICMP return packets from being sent.... often done to protect the "topography" of a network. If you can't hear the pings, you can count the servers or hops in a network path. > 3. Phantom station 10.100.0.2 See above... not a phantom, just can't route. > 4. Whether the San Jose hops actually go to San Jose or are spoofed. It doesn't really matter..... even if the server is physically in San Jose, which I doubt, so what? The end user connecting to that specific server could have been anywhere -- in the Hindu Kush mountains, for instance :) > 5. Why go to New York then hop across the continent unless the > last hops are just administrative not physical. They are probably not administrative... they exist to basically make the lives of anyone tracking a lone packet miserable :) Basically, it's just inserted path to hide the origin of the packet. > 6. How is cloaking done on addresses and physical locations Email me offline.... I can answer some questions on this, but to really understand it you basically have to understand how TCP works. But this kind of "cloaking" isn't really cloaking, it's just one simple technique partnered with a network that has enough depth to make it look like you're bouncing around from one place to another. I forget the specifics, but there's an old physics problem involving a black box and inputs and outputs. That's what you have here..... the black box isn't really so big, but because you can't see in it, you don't know EXACTLY how big, or more to the point, exactly what is in it. That's the idea behind ICMP squelching. btw, this is really a simple defense; it is somewhat easy to overcome, although that doesn't mean that you could actually learn anything useful by overcoming it. > > Is cloaking done by a Safeweb program, say by address spoofer or by > phantom proxies, or is there a way to do this by special agreement > with Network Central (whatever that is), say, as Intel Web and other > classified systems covertly use the Web. :) Nothing special at all..... any well-designed network implements this right off the bat, to stop the little scripties from following a trail of bread crumbs. Safeweb DOES do some (simplistic) IP spoofing and "cloaking", but what you see is NOT it.... Mike _______________________________________________________________________________ WANT YOUR OWN FREE AND SECURE WEB EMAIL ADDRESS? Visit http://www.fastcircle.com

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Osama is Jesus
by Nomen Nescio 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

It is truly remarkable how much Osama resembles all the pictures of Jesus. Not just his facial features, but his eyes, his presence. Could it be that this is really the Millenium, the Second Coming is here and now, and we are just on the wrong side? Why else are so many thousands of devout people praying for his safety, why else do so many call the US the Great Satan? Is anyone trying to do an objective comparison of recent events with the Book of Revelations? Who knows who really caused those planes to crash into the WTC? If the Great Satan controls all the news media who knows what lies we are being told? Why don't they want us to hear Osama?

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Bunker Buster
by Max Inux 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

These things are TOUGH MOTHER FUCKER that go big boom. -Max http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/bomber/n19980326_980417.html EIELSON AIR FORCE BASE, Alaska (AFNS) -- A B-2 Spirit bomber dropped two B61-11 bomb shells to test their improved ground penetration capability March 17 at the Stuart Creek Impact Area, 35 miles southeast of Fairbanks. The tests here were designed to measure the nuclear bomb casing's penetration into frozen soil and the survivability of the weapon's internal components. These were the final two tests needed to certify the weapon system as operational. A team excavated the two unexploded dummy bombs and took careful measurements of their angles and depth of penetration into the soil, which were 6 and 10 feet, according to Ellsworth Rolfs, a B61-11 program test manager. The shells were sent back to Sandia National Laboratories in New Mexico for full analysis of how the simulated internal components fared in the impact. ... "The test unit casing didn't rupture in any of our tests, including drops through concrete from 40,000 feet," he said. "We fully recovered all test units 100 percent intact."

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RIAA Safeweb Ping
by John Young 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

Based some three dozen pings of Safeweb IP address 64.124.150.130 from locations in the US and overseas, all pings conclude with these 5 or 6 hops: lga1-lhr3-stm64.lga1.above.net (64.125.31.182) (New York, NY) core2-lga1-oc192.lga2.above.net (208.184.232.198) (New York, NY) main1colo45-core2-oc48.lga2.above.net (216.200.127.174) (New York, NY) About half the pings timed out before the last hop at: 208.184.48.173.safeweb.com (San Jose, CA) A few hit a "private" address after 208.184.48.173: 10.100.0.2 (no location) before ending at: 64.124.150.130.safeweb.com (San Jose, CA) The station locations were provided by trace route program VisualRoute. Interpretation is needed for: 1. How much about the Safeweb stations is true and how much cloaking. 2. Why some pings timed out and others didn't. 3. Phantom station 10.100.0.2 4. Whether the San Jose hops actually go to San Jose or are spoofed. 5. Why go to New York then hop across the continent unless the last hops are just administrative not physical. 6. How is cloaking done on addresses and physical locations Is cloaking done by a Safeweb program, say by address spoofer or by phantom proxies, or is there a way to do this by special agreement with Network Central (whatever that is), say, as Intel Web and other classified systems covertly use the Web. Recall that Safeweb was selected for financial support by the CIA so intel officers could use it to cloak their Net use. And other programs such as Onion make use of sub-Net features not easily available to the surface user. Now, onto news of the RIAA leaker (not yet a proven hoaxer despite Declan, RIAA and friends hoaxing that). We received a third message yesterday from the alleged source of the RIAA allegations who was pissed at our attempts to trace the source. Use of Safeweb was admitted. Angry words were hurled at us. Allegations were made that parties have been punished for the leak though not the leaker who fears that information about the traces could be used for that. Here's our response: ----- October 11, 2001 I very much appreciate your concern. I have stated publicly that I do not yet believe there has been a hoax and that the source of the messages will not be disclosed if the messages can be shown to be legitimate. Not that I have any hard information on who you are. And don't need to know who you are so long as your information is reliable. Hell, it doesn't have to be reliable just provocative and unsettling. Right now there is a push on by a host of people to promote that the messages are a hoax, and if they prevail RIAA will be the main beneficiary. And a great story becomes a bore. It is to head off that win by RIAA, to avoid giving them improved protection against future abuses as a result of the alleged hoax, that I wish to get from you information that will demonstrate there was no hoax. Again without putting you in jeopardy. In a tough fight like this RIAA and its supporters will do whatever they can to smear and deny your revelations. That's the way it is, so fighting back is the only answer to prevent an RIAA win by default as result of your valiant effort. Listen, this very thing happens every time we put up a controversial document, and your protection is paramount, but opponents of publication will fight like hell to deny the truth. But you surely know that. Now is when the going gets tough. You need to decide how to avoid losing this battle, losing your reputation and the whole shebang. I say come forth with proof of the meeting and comments made, provide it through a secure channel to protect your identity. But don't let this story die a useless death. Tony Smith ducked and ran. Not here, the story stays on Cryptome, along with the story of what happened after your account was published. Disinformation is as good as information, maybe better. But if you want to abandon what you started, I'll understand and wait for the next opportunity to buck the fuckers. -----

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who speaks for the detained
by mattd 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

Dissapeared like the argentine dirty war? and who speaks for jim bell,leonard peltier,jeff luers,chris boyce all the drug war prisoners and the ones who couldnt cop to a rotten plea deal.The US gulag is overtaking the military industrial complex as a dark arm of the evil empire.FUCK the STATE.

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Re: Osama is Jesus
by Anonymous User 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

the antichrist will not be thought as evil (by the world-community) but a great helper. He will come up with solutions. Actually that is not the A.C. but one that will introduce him. Glory -- "your low-tech cold feet provider" ..

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Verba Volant 11-10-2001
by verba＠rol.it 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

Verba Volant 11-10-2001, Every day a new quotation translated into many languages. Logos Translations - www.logostranslations.com _________________ Quotation of the day: Author - Manu Chao English - I am in favour of legalizing all drugs. This is for one reason: I dont like the mafia Italian - sono favorevole alla legalizzazione di tutta la droga. Questo per un unica ragione: non mi piace la mafia Spanish - soy favorable a la legalización de toda la droga. Por una sola razón: no me gusta la mafia French - le meilleur moyen de lutter contre la mafia ? Légaliser toutes les drogues Portuguese - sou a favor da legalização de todas as drogas. Por uma única razão: não gosto da Máfia Brazilian Portuguese - sou a favor da legalização de todas as drogas. Por uma única razão: não gosto da Máfia German - ich bin für die Legalisierung aller Drogen, und zwar aus einem einzigen Grund: Ich habe nichts für die Mafia übrig Hungarian - én az összes drog legalizálása mellett vagyok. többek között ezért nem szeretem a maffiát Finnish - kannatan kaikkien huumausaineiden laillistamista. Siihen on vain yksi syy: en pidä mafiasta Catalan - estic a favor de legalització de tota droga,només per una raó, no mŽagrada la mafia Croatian - ja sam za legalizaciju droge. Iz jedinog razloga to mi se ne svi?a mafija Dutch - ik ben voor de legalisatie van alle drugs. En dit enkel en alleen maar omdat ik het niet voor de maffia heb Emiliano-Romagnolo - par me la legalisazioun ad tota la drouga la è goudibla; la rasoun la è una soula: la mafia, ma me, la è sgudebla Latin - omnium medicamentorum comprobationi faveo. Propter hoc unum: mafia mihi non placet Latvian; Lettish - esmu par visa veida narkotiku legaliz?anu. Un tam pamat? ir viens iemesls: man nepat?k mafija Polish - jestem za legalizacj? wszystkich narkotyków. I to przez jedyny powód: nie lubi? mafi Romanian - sunt pentru legalizarea tuturor narcoticelor. ?i asta doar dintr-un singur motiv: nu-mi place mafia Slovak - som za legalizáciu vetkých drog. Z jediného dôvodu: nepá?i sa mi mafia Venetian - so' a favore de legalisare tute le droghe. E questa par 'na sola rason: no' me piase la mafia Sicilian - sugnu a favuri d' 'a legalizzazioni di tutti i droghi. E chistu pi 'na sula raggiuni: non mi piaci 'a mafia Flemish - ik ben voor de legalisatie van alle drugs. En dit enkel en alleen maar omdat ik het niet voor de maffia heb Ferrarese - a son d'acord cola legalizazion ad tut'il drog. Al dig pr'un sol motiv: an am pias brisa la mafia _________________ All languages, please click on this link http://www.rol.it/owa-k/press.frasiproc.carica?code=418 _________________ Let your friends know about this news letter: give them a subscription to Verba Volant http://www.rol.it/owa-k/press.rol_ml.verbavolant _________________ To unsubscribe from Verba Volant, please follow this link: http://www.rol.it/owa-k/press.rol_ml.verbavolant In the empty field next to unsubscribe, enter the email address shown after "TO:" in the Verba Volant emails. Alternatively, write to the following address: unsubscribe_volant(a)rol.it, copying the email address shown after "TO:"

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