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Wired predicts use of Nukes
by citizenq＠hushmail.com 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

You're like so duh. This is confirmation, corroboration? Rumsfeld naturally neither confirms nor denies what USG will opr will not do in the future but responds using standard operating procedure for a stupid question like that. 1) "Why, yes we have seriously considered tactical nuclear weapons" = worldwide political shitstorm. 2) "No we have ruled out tactical nuclear weapons" = tallybinladen relaxation pill. Big Smart Wired Writer of course jumps to the typically Wired Balanced Journalism conclusion that this perfectly reasonably evasiveness probably means the B61-11. Go back to preschool, or playing Nintendo or whatever you kids do. http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,47319,00.html >From: cpaul <inc(a)fastmedia.net> >To: cypherpunks(a)lne.com >X-Orig-To: cypherpunks(a)EINSTEIN.ssz.com >Subject: bush wheels out the nukes >Begin forwarded message: > >Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 12:33:22 +1000 >Subject: B61-11 > >THE US 'ANNOUNCED' THEIR INTENTION TO USE B61-11 BUNKER BUSTERS ON LAST >NIGHT'S NEWS BULLETINS (BUT SOMEHOW FORGOT TO REFER TO THE FACT THAT THEY >ARE CLASSIFIED AS TACTICAL NUCLEAR WEAPONS) > > >2:00 a.m. Oct. 8, 2001 PDT >Following the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, >Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was questioned on ABC television's This >Week program about the possible use of tactical nuclear weapons in the >expected conflicts to come. > >In practiced Pentagonese, Rumsfeld deftly avoided answering the question >of whether the use of tactical nuclear weapons could be ruled out. > >Though large "theater" thermonuclear devices -- doomsday bombs -- don't >fit the Bush administration's war on terrorism, smaller tactical nukes do >not seem out of the question in the current mindset of the Defense >Department. > >The most likely candidate is a tactical micro-nuke called the B61-11, an >earth-penetrating nuclear device known as the "bunker buster." > >The B61-11 was designed to destroy underground military facilities such as >command bunkers, ballistic missile silos and facilities for producing and >storing weapons.

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12 Oct '01

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OT: cypherpunks and cerebral narcisissm
by auto301094＠hushmail.com 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Something a certain someone recently wrote somehow reminds me... I saw an interesting piece on findtutorials.com on narcissists and how to spot them, and thought you might be interested. I'm sure you'll recognize at least a few people you know who dwell in this unique and fascinating personality-disorder shadowland... Unlike a lot of other writings on the subject, this author differentiates a subcategory, "cerebral narcissists" (i,e. those who derive their narcissistic supply from their intelligence or academic achievements). Ooh, exciting! heh. The last two paragraphs of the first excerpt are particularly interesting. Oh well, here you go: ~F. How to recognize a Narcissist before it is "too late" ...We are evidently looking for the more subtle, almost subliminal, signals that a Narcissist emits. The psychotherapist would be looking for the "presenting symptoms". One should look for the following: "Haughty" Body Language--A physical posture implying and exuding an air of superiority, seniority, hidden powers, mysteriousness, amused indifference etc. Rarely will the Narcissist engage in eye contact and normally he will refrain from bodily contact, physical proximity, or engaging in a discussion unless from a state of condescension, faked "magnanimity and largesse". He will rarely mingle socially and will prefer to adopt the stance of the "observer" or the "lone wolf". Entitlement Marks--The Narcissist will immediately ask for "special treatment" of some kind. Not to wait for his turn, to have a longer or a shorter therapeutic session, to talk directly to authority figures (and not to their assistants or secretaries), to have special payment terms, custom tailored arrangements, and so on. He will react with rage and indignantly if denied his wishes. Idealization or Devaluation--The Narcissist will instantly idealize or devalue the person opposite him, depending on his appraisal of the potential this person has as a Narcissistic supply source. He will IMMEDIATELY flatter, adore, admire and applaud that person in an embarrassingly exaggerated and profuse manner-- or sulk, abuse and humiliate. In the second case (devaluation) he might force himself to be polite (because of the presence of a potential supply source). But this will be a barbed sort of politeness, which will rapidly deteriorate and degenerate into verbal or other violent displays of abuse, rage attacks, or cold detachment, totally out of the control of the Narcissist. The "Membership" Posture-- The Narcissist will always try to "belong". Yet, at the very same time, he will maintain his stance as an outsider. The Narcissist will seek to be admired for his ability to integrate and ingratiate himself without the efforts commensurate with such an undertaking. For instance: if he talks to a psychologist, the Narcissist will make clear that he never studied psychology and then proceed to use the most obscure professional jargon, in an effort to prove that he mastered the discipline (i.e., that he is exceptionally intelligent or introspective). In general, the Narcissist will always prefer show-off to substance. One of the most effective methods of exposing a Narcissist is by trying to go deeper and discuss substantial matters. The Narcissist is shallow, a pond pretending to be an ocean. He likes to think of himself as a Renaissance man, a Jack of all knowledge. A Narcissist will never admit to ignorance IN ANY FIELD! Bragging and False Autobiography The Narcissist will brag. His speech will be peppered with "I", "my", "myself", "mine" and other appropriating linguistic structures. He will describe himself as intelligent, or rich, or modest, or intuitive, or creative--but always excessively and extraordinarily so. One is almost tempted to say, inhumanly so. His biography will sound implausibly rich and complex. His achievements-- incommensurate with his age, education, or recognition. His actual state will always appear evidently and demonstrably incompatible with his claims. Very often, the Narcissist will lie or fantasize in a manner very easy to discern. Emotion-free Language--The Narcissist likes to talk about himself and only about himself. He will be disinterested in what others have to tell him about themselves. He might pretend to be interested--but this is only with a potential source of supply and in order to obtain said supply. He will act bored, disdainful, even angry, if he feels intrusion and abuse of his precious time. In general, the Narcissist is a very impatient person, easily bored, with strong attention deficits unless and until he is the topic of discussion. One can discuss all the aspects of the intimate life of a Narcissist, providing the discourse is not "emotionally tinted". If asked to relate directly to his emotions, he will, probably, intellectualize, rationalize, speak about himself in the third body and in a detached "scientific" tone or write a short story with a fictitious character in it, suspiciously autobiographical. Seriousness and Sense of Intrusion and Coercion--The Narcissist is dead serious about himself. He can possess a fabulous sense of humor, scathing and cynical. But he will never appreciate the direction of this weapon at himself. The Narcissist regards himself as being on a constant mission, whose importance is cosmic and whose consequences are global. If a scientist--he is always in the throes of revolutionizing science. If a journalist-- he is in the middle of the greatest story ever. This self-misperception is not amenable to lightheadedness or self-deprecation. The Narcissist is easily hurt and insulted (Narcissist Hurt or Narcissistic Injury). Even the most innocuous remarks or acts will be interpreted by him as belittling, intruding or coercive. His time his more valuable than others"--therefore, it cannot be wasted on unimportant matters such as social intercourse. Any suggestion to help, any advice or concerned inquiry will be immediately interpreted as coercion. Any attempt to set an agenda--as an intimidating act of enslavement. In this sense, the Narcissist is both schizoid and paranoid. These--the lack of empathy, the aloofness, the disdain and sense of entitlement, the restricted application of his sense of humor, the unequal treatment and paranoia--make the Narcissist a social misfit. The Narcissist is able to provoke in his social milieu, in his casual acquaintances, even in his psychotherapist, the strongest, most avid and furious hatred and revulsion. He provokes violence, often not knowing why. He is perceived to be asocial at best (often antisocial). This, perhaps, is the strongest presenting symptom. One feels ill at ease in the presence of a Narcissist and rarely knows why. No matter how charming, intelligent, thought provoking, outgoing, easy going and social the Narcissist is he will forever fail to secure the sympathy of his fellow humans, a sympathy he is never ready, willing, or able to grant them in the first place. *** >From Chapter 17, Advanced, answering "how do narcissists react to criticism?" The narcissist relates to his human environment through his unresolved conflicts. It is the energy of the tension thus created that sustains him. He is a person driven by the imminent danger of eruption, by the unsettling prospect of losing the precarious balance that you mention. It is a tightrope act. The narcissist must remain alert and on-edge. Only if the conflict is fresh in his mind can he attain such levels of mental arousal. Periodically interacting with the objects of his conflicts, sustains the inner turmoil, keeps the narcissist on his toes, endows him with the feeling that he is alive. Thus, the narcissist perceives every disagreement--let alone criticism--as nothing short of a THREAT. He reacts defensively. He becomes indignant, aggressive and cold. He detaches emotionally for fear of yet another (narcissistic) injury. He devalues the person who made the disparaging remark. By holding the critic in contempt, by diminishing the stature of the discordant conversant--he minimizes the impact on himself of the disagreement or criticism. Like a trapped animal, the narcissist is forever on the lookout: was this remark meant to demean him? was this sentence a deliberate attack? Gradually, his mind turns into a chaotic battlefield of paranoia and ideas of reference until he loses touch with reality as we know it and retreats to his own world of fantasized grandiosity. When the disagreement or criticism or disapproval or approbation are PUBLIC, though--the narcissist would tend to regard them as Narcissistic Supply! Only when they are expressed in private, with no audience in sight--does the narcissist rage against them. The cerebral narcissist is competitive and intolerant of criticism or disagreement. To him, subjugation and subordination entail the establishment of his undisputed intellectual superiority or professional authority over others. Lowen has an excellent exposition of this "hidden or tacit competition". The cerebral narcissist aspires to perfection. Thus, even the slightest and most inconsequential challenge to his authority will be inflated by him to cosmic proportions. Hence, the disproportionateness of his reactions. For more, see the following tutorials: Pathological Narcissism: Beginners, Intermediate, Advanced http://www.findtutorials.com/DirCatLook.Asp?ID=251 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Hush 2.0 wl8EARECAB8FAjvHU2sYHGF1dG8zMDEwOTRAaHVzaG1haWwuY29tAAoJEKadvsVlUK4P whcAn1qgEQd4KP6h/h5DwdDPCveWE/+WAJwKbln8Oamrb/+eW2Txtr5/wUNLEg== =dy4q -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: NPR Story Yesterday
by sonofgomez709 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

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NPR Story Yesterday
by mmotyka＠lsil.com 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

A writer for the Voice ( if I heard it correctly ) talked about a computer captured in Manila that was supposedly used by Ramzi Yousef. He said that there were documents that described hijacking planes and flying them into prominent buildings. This information was turned over to the FBI in 1995 or 1996. I hope with expanded powers for surveillance and searches that they can gather better information and shorten the analysis period.

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!!!KILL!!!Filing Jim Choate...
by sonofgomez709 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

Look on the bright side, even if you KILL (So2Speak) Jim, you will still be able to receive all of the email that he SecretlySends to the CPX Disturbed Male LISP. e.g. -"I went to a party and passed out, and woke up with these two guys doing me." -"Increase Your BustSize *and* Your Penis Size Using Your CypherPunks Secret DeCoder Ring!" -"FREE PICTURED 20818" -"Hi. My Name Is Toto..." AnonyMouse #05987-196 CJ Parker <sonofgomez709(a)yahoo.com> http://profiles.yahoo.com/sonofgomez709 http://www.technopagan.org/politics/xenix/ http://members.w-link.net/~sog/INDEX.HTM

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Now I get it!
by mmotyka＠lsil.com 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

When our "representatives" took an oath to uphold and protect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights they thought it meant the actual parchment. I'm sure all copies are safely stored away in guarded bunkers. A job well done!

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Re: some good news: fed disarmer shot dead
by sonofgomez709 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

a.. From: Dynamite Bob <dbob(a)semtex.com> b.. Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 11:47:46 -0700 c.. Old-Subject: some good news: fed disarmer shot dead -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAT6R3AQSC.htmlFederal Prosecutor, a Prominent Gun-Control Advocate, Shot to Death in Seattle Home By Peggy AndersenAssociated Press Writer Published: Oct 12, 2001 SEATTLE (AP) - A federal prosecutor who headed a prominent gun control group in his spare time was shot in his home and died early Friday. When this happened, I was with Dynamite Bob, eh? No...REALLY.... CJ Parker <sonofgomez709(a)yahoo.com> http://profiles.yahoo.com/sonofgomez709 http://www.technopagan.org/politics/xenix/ http://members.w-link.net/~sog/INDEX.HTM

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RE: Re: Feingold amendment
by Tolan Blundell 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

>>As a mere Englishman, I'm not quite sure what "table" means in this >>context. My guess is that it means "put it on the agenda", i.e. fix a >>time to discuss it later, but that doesn't look right here, because you >>are saying that the amendments were rejected. >> >>Ken Brown >Another example of such confusion would be a request to "knock me up". Has >slightly different meanings in the two languages. what does it mean in American English? t.

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some good news: fed disarmer shot dead
by Dynamite Bob 12 Oct '01

12 Oct '01

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAT6R3AQSC.html Federal Prosecutor, a Prominent Gun-Control Advocate, Shot to Death in Seattle Home By Peggy AndersenAssociated Press Writer Published: Oct 12, 2001 SEATTLE (AP) - A federal prosecutor who headed a prominent gun control group in his spare time was shot in his home and died early Friday. Thomas C. Wales, 49, died about 1:15 a.m. Friday at Harborview Medical Center. He had been shot in the neck and the side late Thursday, a hospital spokeswoman said. Details about the shooting were sketchy. No arrests had been made, police spokesman Mark Jamieson said. Wales was a member of the fraud unit in the U.S. attorney's office here, specializing in prosecution of banking and business crime, spokesman Lawrence Lincoln said. He also was board president of Seattle-based Washington Ceasefire, a gun-control group. "The death of Tom Wales is a terrible loss to our movement," said a statement from Michael T. Barnes, president of the Washington, D.C.-based Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. "Although we do not yet know the motives for the shooting, we are angered by the murder of this true visionary." Federal agencies were assisting Seattle police in the investigation. Officials with the FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms declined to comment. According to The Seattle Times, neighbors in the wealthy Queen Anne Hill neighborhood reported hearing shots shortly before 11 p.m. Thursday. Neighbor Tom Olsby said Wales' wife, Elizabeth, a former Seattle School Board member, was away visiting family in New England. On Sept. 30, Washington Ceasefire planted thousands of daffodils in a popular city park in remembrance of people who had died from gun violence.

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