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RE: MMB question
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Responding to msg by cactus(a)hks.net ("L. Todd Masco") on Tue, 6 Dec 1:23 PM >And: are the errata available on-line anywhere? Sounds >like a very >worthwhile thing to have. Applied Cryptography states on the inner flyleaf: Errata -- A list of the errors found in this book along with corresponding corrections is updated periodically. For the most recent electronic version, send email to: schneier(a)chinet.com For the most recent printed version, send a stamped, self-addressed envelope to: AC Corrections Counterpane Systems 730 Fair Oaks Avenue Oak Park, IL 60302 Readers are encouraged to distribute electronic or printed versions of this list to other readers of this book. - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBLuTiJyoZzwIn1bdtAQGIBAGA2HKGp+3qSsythB5es+QE0lmxrEuc3kKs zMcBE+OoYdR+yofyFPKBxUGU1Z3w8ZQM =27st -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Dec. 10th Bay Area Cypherpunks Meeting
by L. McCarthy 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Ian Farquhar writes: > On Dec 5, 10:28pm, KT Kislitzin wrote: > > This month's Bay Area Cypherpunks Meeting will be held this Saturday, > There isn't a chance that this could either be taped or broadcast, is there? It would be really nice if someone could post minutes/notes from this. - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 iQCVAwUBLuTh7Gf7YYibNzjpAQF6nQQAu0dzcPgRtte2N1mANQ8vCj/3R4WjJcLb YsjKuJcSG7ZRLE0ERk0EAR9XUPZuOhTWmMAu0BiTOaVmNkhFNARdv/IKxOrOAWU9 1Xqr5RtP4pJabfDWGND6UFtMpLimHMbdMcy8wHmMnm4XykZcQNG3PwMCymtSqQ3L zDEGiahe7ac= =AF6W - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBLuTkYioZzwIn1bdtAQGl3AGA0N77HqZuchnssElxWGrDygPX4qLb3F1J Cd2dMlY5XYmAKCwyvocol+e5j/oQ3B/M =XLJD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Re: GUCAPI (Grand Unified Crypto API)
by bshantz＠spry.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

JEFF LICQUIA (CEI) <JLICQUIA(a)mhc.uiuc.edu> writes: >Not to be an OO bigot or anything, but I would implement these as object >groups, with the parents defining the API and the children implementing >it. As an example, consider this "Key" hierarchy: > Key > / \ > PubKey PrivKey > / / \ > RSAKey DESKey IDEAKey > / \ > PGPKey PEMKey Great Idea!!! I hadn't pictured it this way. My first impresssion was completely wrong and I apologize. Now that I understand and have had a few minutes to think about this. It does look pretty good. Now, about shipping the spec outside the States. Not a problem. We just couldn't ship code or an executable outside the States. This really is a plausible idea. Brad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>INTERNETWORKING THE DESKTOP<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Brad Shantz bshantz(a)spry.com Senior Software Engineer SPRY Inc. Direct #: (206)-442-8251 316 Occidental Ave. S. Main #: (206)-447-0300 Suite 316 Fax #: (206)-447-9008 Seattle, WA 98104 WWW URL: http://WWW.SPRY.COM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP Public Key at: http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html Or email: pgp-public-keys(a)pgp.ai.mit.edu Subj: GET bshantz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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Re: backing ecash
by jrochkin＠cs.oberlin.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:47 PM 12/06/94, Paul Ste. Marie wrote: >Isn't there a problem with net-based distribution of ecash? It would >seem that Eve could intercept the ecash and spend it first. Encrypted >email return of the ecash would seem to violate the anonymity of the >ecash. Some sort of one-time encrypted return address would seem to >be necessary, but better yet would be a vending machine that took a >floppy disk and some currency and stuck the ecash on the floppy. Diffie-Hellman would seem appropriate here. Look it up in Schneier. Vending machines seem a good idea too, but one unlikely to develop any time soon. Or possibly ever, if the net becomes so prevalent that no one would think of doing anything offline that could just as well be done online.

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RE:
by Claborne, Chris 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

One of the reasons that Phil and Ralph get anything done is because they aren't subscribed to this list. Over 300 messages a week and growing.... How about cutting the flames, the Detweiler/DM junk, HEAT postings and post substantive info, questions, or discussion. 2 -- C -- ---------- >From: Anonymous User <remailer-admin(a)goldenbear.com> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >I don't know what is going on here. This list seems to have >bogged down in meta-issues. I am very disappointed with >Eric Hughes' recent display of feather-fluffing. He seems >to fail to understand that the list has absolutely NOTHING >to do with him personally. The full subscriber base could >MOVE IMMEDIATELY if so inclined, and indeed the atmosphere >seems to be getting a bit oppressive here. > >I hate to say this but it reminds me of when all the Detweiler >flames were erupting a long time ago. Detweiler seemed to >be especially enraged with the way that E.Hughes ran the list >in a dictatorial, "iron fist" way. He failed to understand >that his own role was merely that of a janitor, not a >celebrity with a personality cult. Is that all the cypherpunks >list is about? I tell you that this idea that "cypherpunks >code" does not mean anything. "cypherpunks talk about code >endlessly" but when it comes down to it, this whole list >is nothing but a lot of people STROKING EACH OTHER'S EGOS >while the outsiders (Phil Zimmermann, Ralph Levien) are the >only ones getting anything done!! > >

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PGPTools bug
by anonymous-remailer＠xs4all.nl 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- This is a known problem in old versions, caused by this bug in fifo_destroy. while(fb) { nfb=fb; fifo_block_unlink(fb); /* Free the block */ fb=nfb->next; /* And then read it...oops */ } It's fixed like this in later versions. while(fb) { nfb=fb->next; fifo_block_unlink(fb); fb=nfb; } Get the latest version (10d I think) from ftp.csn.net, and download a file called pgptlupd.zip. The update has the fixed fifo, among other things. Don't use the earlier versions. They have bugs. Get my latest release, not one that has been hacked by someone else. Pr0duct Cypher -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBLuPbScGoFIWXVYodAQEtSQP/YepqB2czl4/7keW8R6KMrnI2YVnvqPBJ ENXi+Ds3TGFHazdskofjra1Dwu8I2tkrH61n0YDrHRwvlZUVFxpqGW+zPamLlhNG NPdQKabtT79qXQYNCxR8KrYZnpS3p21io5nVmYduOkW0ZqvTyo2cX8iKGsDXeBpV 3idSCI+ZTr8= =lXLl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Steven Levy on Fresh Air (NPR)
by L. McCarthy 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Steven Levy discussed key escrow with Terry Gross on NPR's Fresh Air today (the show originates at WHYY-FM in Philadelphia). Unfortunately I only caught the tail end of the interview, as I happened to flip to the local public radio station driving home. He drew the analogy between Clipper/EES and being required to leave a key to the "strong door" of one's house at the local police station. Towards the end he specifically mentioned the cypherpunks as a group working against this sort of encroachment on privacy. Perhaps someone could fill in more details from the beginning of the conversation ? - - -L. Futplex McCarthy; PGP key by finger or server "We've got computers, we're tapping phone lines; I know that that ain't allowed" --Talking Heads - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 iQCVAwUBLuV75Gf7YYibNzjpAQGWpQQAxbWgJMFEJ7eNv6NwaFg9eHSVGX04Ha8F MEopRwImJNIhEoKs9K9ORzujXiCpI6TGQ4JKe7JSxLDJ+W0hwzCOsGCxLHV4jGrx MbC/dNrxHL5pDZvobKPbwO8khxx3oIqArv3vskYfqY1qomrqcTDFdjbZeCFcHrvD HMwzIRPT3Xo= =4aOl - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBLuV9DioZzwIn1bdtAQEb9gGAki5DmoHGeBRxwdHqzB+GHSQVl/6kpK9h Wh39toG7c741opNtZl56XjGpbTVd0u3z =R4OO -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Good times virus thing-a-ma-bobber
by ADAM GERSTEIN, _THE_ MACGURU 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Michael K. Sanders is believed to have said: >Has anyone actually seen this 'Good Times' thing? I highly doubt >it. And seriously, an e-mail virus? Get real. Need I remind you of a certain Robert T. Morris? Does the "Internet Worm" mean anything to you? Sure, it wasn't actual email, but it did use email and other means of transport to cripple the net in a matter of hours. adam -=-=-=- Adam J. Gerstein MacGuru to the stars Available at: GERSTEIN(a)SCSU.CTSTATEU.EDU MACGEEK(a)SCSU.CTSTATEU.EDU A GERSTEIN(a)AOL.COM MACGEEK(a)eWorld.com an41389(a)anon.penet.fi (for anonymity) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQBWAwUBLq/fYbXVc2UFUOWNAQHu4QIBAQzD1aOCh4DV3Dg4DSJPmNu+1xGDRxND 0PavaUaBFP7GGT6EneTBwVX1ddL1PFFKdeMf8qo9FgWfG0EOHuHJTkY= =6rlg -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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by Lauren Nowlin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: giving one's "anonymous" address
by L. McCarthy 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Adam J. Gerstein writes: > MacGuru to the stars > > Available at: > GERSTEIN(a)SCSU.CTSTATEU.EDU MACGEEK(a)SCSU.CTSTATEU.EDU > A GERSTEIN(a)AOL.COM MACGEEK(a)eWorld.com > an41389(a)anon.penet.fi (for anonymity) Jon Care writes: # Was this a real message, or is someone having us on? I mean, come on, who # seriously describes themselves as "MacGuru" No comment :> # AND puts in their anonymous email address as well :) # # Not very anonymous now is it? I think the idea is that email sent to an anXXXXX(a)anon.penet.fi address will be anonymized by the penet server, so you can establish a conversation channel with MacGuru here without setting up a reply block through some remailers. In some newsgroups where anonymous posting is common, listing of several "anonymous" email addresses in .sigs is also common. - - -L. Futplex McCarthy; PGP key by finger or server "We've got computers, we're tapping phone lines; I know that that ain't allowed" --Talking Heads - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 iQCVAwUBLuWf82f7YYibNzjpAQHbCwQA0BX3Gd+OUL1GEYiRF/cv+Bv8Z10vAPiq jwjhchrMgOhBdM190jJGW/92owy3fxdMm4LWOo5ymYfSPQsfS0JAg0P5BHy5A79i YND9u5BudUBYtLOZqxCU1PKJ5Ud1x2ZVieppgx+dl4x+vD/brxQpgTzK+pv8NIMX gjUR44FPDmY= =nQXp - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBLuWhJyoZzwIn1bdtAQHyaQF/WXIZnjd9AmswPdm2YH9P6G0fnMXAMfHX rC4ewLaC7SwNmsZjTvLFg4IFgqRJ+ae9 =cnyv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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