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Re: Shot 'Round the World
by snyderra＠dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 6:21 AM 4/9/94 -0700, Jeff Davis wrote: >*** Here's the follow up *** > >To whom it may concern, > >You have been emailed an authentic National Security Agency Employee's >Manual. I as an Electronic Frontier Foundation member, acting purely >on my own initiative, and solely accountable for my actions, have emailed >this information, as well as John Gilmore's FOIA attack on the current >Clipper Chip proposal for key escrowed encryption, to every media source >with an email adress listed in EFF's _Big_Dummies_Guide_to_the_Internet_ >on the entire planet. > >You may authenicate the NSA manual via confirmation by the phone numbers >listed in it. Consider this the shot heard round the world in the >Electronic Revolution. Well, this certainly helped the "cause." If I were a media person recieving this mail, I'd get a good laugh, then hit delete. I don't see anything nifty, wonderful, or unusual in the manual. I've held a Secret clearance doing work as a Defense contractor, and the requirements aren't abnormal. They're stricter, but given that the clearance level is higher and it's in the intelligence community, it's not unusual. I would seriously doubt the manual is of much interest to the media. If you want to help, mail the media about privacy, and what Clipper is going to do to it. This kind of mail just makes the online community look like fanatical crackpots. Bob (I'm an EFF member as well. What does that have to do with your message?) -- Bob Snyder N2KGO MIME, RIPEM mail accepted snyderra(a)dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu finger for RIPEM public key When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl.

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CPSR petition to oppose Clipper
by Senator Bedfellow 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone know how many signatures this eventually got? Thanks Ben. ____ Renegade academician. They're a dangerous breed when they go feral. -James P. Blaylock in "Lord Kelvin's Machine"

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'mostly for crypto and stuff'
by bart＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I know c'punks strays, on occasion but hows this: From: nick.konidaris(a)accbbs.com (Nick Konidaris) Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Hydrogen Fuel Cells Date: 3 Apr 94 23:14:00 GMT Distribution: world Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981 I know this conference is mostly for cryptography & stuff but I want to know if there is anyone out there who knows about the Hydrogen Fuel Cell. I think that I understand how the Cell works yet, I find that something does not make sense. My basic question is: 1. Is a salt/ion bridge required? 2. If so what crosses the salt bridge? [ie. H2 and O2 protons, electrons, what?] 3. What is the best way to make a working fuel cell? Thanx -Nicholas Konidaris II

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ILF: E-Mail Destination - Black Hole, White House
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Brought to you by the Information Liberation Front Reproduced without permission from Communications Week Editor's View E-MAIL DESTINATION: BLACK HOLE, WHITE HOUSE Is the Clinton adminisration really an ally of the communications and networking community, or are the politicians only jerking our strings? The answer to this imortant question seems to vary day to day. A few weeks ago I received four elecronic-mail communiques from the White House Office of Media Affairs. This caught my attention for several reasons. First, the administration is not in the habit of communicat- ing with the trade press so I was impressed with this outreach. (Cool move, guys.) Next, the messages were targeted at key journalists using the preferred medium du jour: electronic mail. (Very cool!) Finally, all four messages were dispatched the same day. I was most interested in a message detailing the administration's efforts to communicate over electronic networks. The Clinton administration's Electronc Public Access Project has achieved some important milestones during its first year. According to the project's press release: lt has received over 100,000 E-mail messages to the president and the vice president since it started on June 1, 1993; It established Internet addresses and accepts E-mail from the public; It has electronically processed over 220,000 requests for information since September 1, 1993; 1,600 public documents were published electronically last year; It established forums on America Online, CompuServe, GEnie and MCI Mail. The project plans this year to publish the national budget and other public documents on CD-ROM. It also plans to refine existing electronic com munications techniques via the Internet. I applaud the administration for these innovations. But I also have some reservations. For one, it's looks great on the surface that the administration has set up so many channels for communication. Yet this is the key question: Is anyone really listening? E-mail questions do not get electronic replies from administration officials. Questioners (if they are lucky) get back a letter -- via the U.S. Postal Service. This sounds more like a black hoel than a viable communications process. The president did respond at least once via E-mail -- to a group of fifth-graders in Oxford, Ohio, last spring. At best the opinions of communications and networking experts seem to be ignored; at worst they have been rejected by the president. An example is the president's recent adoption of the socalled "Clipper Chip." This encoding/decoding scheme was devloped by the National Security Agency to assist government agencies to evesdrop on digital communications. Virtually every major computer and communications company, opinion maker, and civil rights group opposes the use of this technology. apparently, however, the president doesn't care what we think. This action has jilted our enthusiasm for the administration's avowed embrace of communications technology. It's beginning to look more like a charade to keep techies playing with their toys instead of a mature partnership in molding our technological future. Send reactions to 542-9851(a)mcimail.com on MCI Mail or the Internet, or by fax, 516-562-5055

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Re: MIT sysop faces piracy charges
by aburt＠nyx10.cs.du.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Or more likely the news media had no clue about the relationship of anonymous mail to anonymous ftp/fsp. Sigh. Andrew

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Re: You Will
by jamiel＠sybase.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

People seem to be enjoying the AT&T parodies, so here are more that floated back when the originals made the rounds where I work. >Date: Thu, 21 Apr 94 14:02:53 PDT >Subject: Re: You Will ----- Begin Included Message ----- > >I forwarded the You Will stuff around a bit. Got this sent back. > > >----- Begin Included Message ----- > >Subject: Re: You Will >Date: Thu, 21 Apr 94 3:33:27 PDT >X-Lines: 15 > > >Have you ever... > >gotten a bill for an increase in your health insurance rates along with a >form letter saying, "we've noticed an increase in your consumption of >meats, dairy products, and sugars as reflected in the online records of >your supermarket purchasing patterns..." ....? YOU WILL! > >Have you ever... > >had your car impounded as you try to pass through a tollbooth, and the cop >says, "our scanners correlated your license plate number with the database >of unpaid parking tickets..." ...? YOU WILL! > > > > >----- End Included Message ----- > > ----- End Included Message ----- jamie -- "Sure, people mistake me for straight, but when I do get someone in bed,that's when being a femme *really* pays off." -Bryna Bank, on Butch/Femme jamie lawrence jamiel(a)sybase.com

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Patent searches
by rishab＠dxm.ernet.in 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

hfinney(a)shell.portal.com: > A little while ago someone posted about a new company that would do patent > searches via email requests. For another week they are doing free searches > as an introductory offer. I did a search on blind-signature based cash > systems, and these are the patents it found. This might be useful for those > considering implementing electronic cash. Full text of patents are available > for $4.95. The kind of search I did for free will cost $149 after another > week. People are allowed 3 searches per day for free until then. I seem to remember that the USPTO provides full texts of patents for $3... Anyway, those who plan to perform many such services at $149 might consider purchasing the 10-CDROM database for $5,000 (?) Also, you can WWW to wais://town.hall.org:210/patent for full WAIS searches in real time for keywords. I'm not sure whether Town Hall has old patents (possibly only for the current year); but is does have many relating to electronic cash, cryptography, signatures and so on. (Note: most of these are software patents, not applicable outside the USA. An average of 80 software patents a week were issued in the first quarter of 1994.) The home page (http://town.hall.org) connects to many other services, including the SEC EDGAR documents. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rishab Aiyer Ghosh "What is civilisation rishab(a)dxm.ernet.in but a ribonucleic Voicemail +91 11 3760335; Vox/Fax/Data 6853410 hangover?" H-34C Saket New Delhi 110017 INDIA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Intolerance on the list
by kkirksey＠world.std.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > I also agree with Russell. Although the organization for which you work > may be unnerving to some, they should be willing to give you a shot at > being an ok kinda guy as a freethinking individual. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ <Stuff deleted> > Keep asking your questions and thinking freely! > Jim ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > I fully encourage people to think freely, but I absolutely refuse to encourage people to become "Free Thinkers". I've found that so-called "Free Thinkers" reveal themselves to be, through their ideas and literature, to be nothing more than narrow-minded empiricist zealots, hostile beyond reason to religion and anything that cannot be apprehended directly by the human senses in general. IMHO, of course. Ken ============================================================================= Ken Kirksey kkirksey(a)world.std.com Mac Guru & Developer - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Harassment is a power issue, and power is neither male nor female. Whoever is behind the desk has the opportunity to abuse power, and women will take advantage as often as men. - Michael Crichton (in _Disclosure_) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLbZWuusZNYlu+zuBAQEQdgP+IVihMlRPcB4I2cgU+c03GyrStkXjgDOj ck+18D0aXAFmvWIgQSCm/KJYpuQBxRFv5AhrfeewdKZveicWy6ifM0EjD7NQq1tv 0KtB07u0JPzpx6eVMFEtq8m/BMWIwdeLbD0vyiBpSNlAVm8vkrZSC4CtEcNZYGlG LJpf5IU3DkI= =62e9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Sorry, unicorn...
by Phil G. Fraering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hey, unicorn, I was *joking*. I use that signoff sometimes while joking. I dislike smileys. I recall reading that Ames used rather conventional mail drops to deliver his stuff. He was compromised and working for the Soviets way before internet access was nearly as available as today. Get a clue yourself. pgf

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Re: Black Net
by fhalper＠pilot.njin.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In reply to: Sandy, I think Frederick is getting upset because BlackNet refuses to accept his application. But what can you expect... most high school kids just don't have information worth money or BN Credits. Laugh, Laugh. You had me going for a little. I guess it is the equivalent of hazing(less painful). Reuben Halper Montclair High -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.3 mQCPAi16KosAAAEEAMUwRni4a9+GbuAhHDLcBWK60hCJUYxhr2hYokpELAhx0ejp 2fq61Tu9Hjn051CN8Xy5nu6sv2ODfG/t59l4DJSb5pirQaII3zaX0rMX0ydwGDoW YakL4ow1lNY+d/k14KpIuUW404+fNuNhIGSkdVLQIfbOgh0preK7/P44AKvdABEB AAG0JlJldWJlbiBIYWxwZXIgPGZoYWxwZXJAcGlsb3Qubmppbi5uZXQ+iQCVAgUQ Lam+x9xF3PzIgw7tAQHPogP/VmoF5AHJNBFlpxl1tvHAzrMLE8nkpengs94Y8zmF 1r5+hk0TaYeEEUzYf1QNfflya5md3WKeXnI3WhO2SRpdH953AD/tNmxw2LLEegat 5sI1XNPuNqxeompiHFRnCz4dI14qjDvRwnPay187/Q5q2F3m0nP8qA6wgl59mDq3 FuCJAJUCBRAteitx4rv8/jgAq90BARTHBACh99OJtGXATm01BUa+u6WHU5CBc2FN F5z29RpTA/JTrgUhn4qeZ19iCIlhe1wi0D3QQH0wN7FrMp6onMw49KFU05/KLDLb JSWdCzjbl/wPEG8z//O6+Pqzj+ZcNM9Rm0b08/QdVoQZMljXkl19Gq2P/D4ceewe WAKePQ2ciFdNbw== =K4ez -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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