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Re: Sandy and I will run a cypherpunks "moderation"
by David Lesher / hated by RBOC's in 5 states 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It might have been interesting to instead announce that Sandy & John were starting a NEW list..... It just happened to have the old name. And the old list? Still there at ....... After all, the end result is the same. [One problem -- does this mean SternFUD will be back?] -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz(a)nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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[ADMINISTRATIVIUM] ZKP
by nobody＠replay.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim Mayo is the living proof that anal sex causes pregnancy. /\ _ /\ | | 0 0 |-------\== \==@==/\ ____\ | \_-_/ _|| _||

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IWD_ism
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

1-6-96. "Information-Warfare Defense Is Urged" The Defense Science Board said the Pentagon should launch counterattacks against computer hackers by injecting the attackers' computers with "a polymorphic virus that wipes out the system, takes it down for weeks." The report largely sidesteps as irrelevant the continuing controversy about the export of encryption codes. ----- IWD_ism

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Re: ONE MILLION CHILDREN.....
by ed.falk＠Eng.Sun.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

What did cypherpunks do to get so much spam?

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RE: Sandy and I will run a cypherpunks "moderation" experiment in Jan
by Robert Barnes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Rich Burroughs wrote: >At 02:56 PM 1/6/97 +1000, Robert Barnes <rbarnes(a)gil.com.au> wrote: >[snip] >>My bottom line feeling with respect to this is that we cannot >>expect freedom unless we are willing to exercise responsibility. >>It is apparent that the people who are noisiest about freedom of >>speech and content censoring are working tirelessly to abuse >>the list and provoke the very opposite of their stated ideals. > >Hmmm. There has been some of that, but some of use who have spoken about >freedom of speech have done so because of legitimate concerns, not just to >gain advantage in an ongoing, juvenile campaign. I would say that there had been a lot more than "some of that". I believe that moderation as proposed does not really limit anyones Freedom of Speech. After all the list is intended as a forum to discuss the topic of cryptography and it's use by society, the list is not advertised as a free for all abuse forum or an unlimited conduit for spam. If you want Freedom of Speech go stand on a soapbox in your local town square. Would you complain that people who choose to walk on by and not listen to you are violating your right to Free Speech? Cypherpunks has the right to say "Enough, take the raves, rants and spam somewhere else". You are free to say what you want, but if it is off-topic, I don't want to see it in my inbox. > <snip> > >I think the idea of two versions of the list is an excellent one, and it >avoids the issues raised by presenting the list in only a moderated form. >If people want the spam they can have it, and if they don't they can take >advantage of John and Sandy's work, and read a more coherent version of the >list. I will certainly choose the latter, but it is nice to know that the >choice is mine. John and Sandy -- thanks for getting this rolling. You will certainly be in the minority, but you are right, the choice is yours to make and everyone else's as well. > >Rich >______________________________________________________________________ >Rich Burroughs richieb(a)teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~richieb >U.S. State Censorship Page at - http://www.teleport.com/~richieb/state >dec96 issue "cause for alarm" - http://www.teleport.com/~richieb/cause -------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Barnes Phone: +61 7 32529722 Fax: +61 7 32571403 Tritronics (Australia) Pty Ltd Email: robertb(a)tritro.com.au PGP Key fingerprint = 02 A6 22 5E 26 D3 7C 4D E2 91 9E 15 AC EA B1 58 Send e-mail with "get key" in the "Subject:" field to get a copy of my public key

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Re: Modified Token Posting Scheme
by ed.falk＠Eng.Sun.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

How about this simple policy scheme: 1) posts from known list members forwarded to list automatically 2) posts with "approval cookie" also forwarded automatically 3) otherwise, forwarded only after approval by moderator, whose charter only permits spam filtering. People who don't want to use their own name in a post, and also don't want to be bothered with creating a cookie are the only ones whose posts are delayed.

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No Subject
by Bovine Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim C. May's aberrant sexual life has negatively impacted his mental integrity. o)__ (_ _`\ Tim C. May z/z\__)

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RE: IWD_ism
by pclow 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>John Young wrote: >> >> ... injecting the attackers' computers with "a polymorphic >> virus that wipes out the system, takes it down for weeks." > >Looks to me like somebody's trying to land a job writing X-Files >scripts. I beg to differ! Sounds more like Independence Day to me. Is Jeff Goldbum on the list?

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PWL's how ?
by will 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

How has the Windows PWL's been de-crytped ? Also I don't like to seem too much like a rookie, but was is a polymorphic virus ? . Marc Theriault * . * + * . * Email: WILL(a)BBSI.NET * . * . .+ ___ . . * + ___....-----'---'-----....___ . . ========================================= + * * . ___'---..._______...---'___ * . .

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Moderation
by thad＠hammerhead.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I think that this is a completely fabulous idea, an commend John and Sandy for doing this. Let me add my own suggestion. This will fail if flames migrate from cypherpunks-flames to cypherpunks, I would attempt to prohibit threads that only exist in cypherpunks-flames being continued into the moderated list. This'll be hard to do, Sandy, I know, but if you could think of a way to do this, I think that your experiment is more likely to succeed. Phrases like "As I said in the letter that only got sent to cypherpunks-flames" should cause the whole article to be yanked, IMHO. thad -- Thaddeus Beier thad(a)hammerhead.com Visual Effects Supervisor 408) 287-6770 Hammerhead Productions http://www.got.net/people/thad

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