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RE: Yeo, Pea-brained Imbecile
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:15 PM 3/18/96 +0000, "Michael Peponis" <peponmc(a)fe3.rust.net> wrote: >Here is my two cents on the whole subject of countries wanting to recieve the >technical and economic benifits of the internet, but reject groups they have >moral or ethical problems with. ... >Given the plethera of reports like this, I will start maintaining a list of >country that will not be given access to my site, no FTP, no HTTP, no nothing, >on top of that, I will hard code into all the new versions of my network aware > programs to check for a domain subfix, if it is on of the black > list, the software will not function. .... >They want isolation, let them enjoy the full benifits of that decision. I've got the opposite view - I think it's worth making access to widespread parts of the Internet _easier_ for people from countries whose governments don't want their subjects\\\\\\\\citizens to access them. Aside from any good that can be accomplished by building, say, a Singapore Banned Religion/Politics web index (since Singapore's recently announced policy is to censor Usenet access but not http access, so auto-indexing newsgroups would work), any technology that makes it easier to work around censorship will be useful for Yankees who want to access controversial groups after Buchanan's elected (:-) One part of the problem is building convenient mirrors in free countries; another is building packet/mail/http/etc. laundries that can be easily ported to make it difficult to block access to _them_. Some of the Andrew File System approaches for the Zundelsite project were interesting, since it's harder to block access to widely supported back channels, and since it provides people with non-subversive reasons to support a relay site, they're more likely to be widespread and supported at sites that censors don't want to totally block. Now, building a blacklist of censorious _government_ sites, like *.gov.sg (or whatever) and blocking them is more interesting. #-- # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, +1-415-442-2215 pager 408-787-1281 # "At year's end, however, new government limits on Internet access threatened # to halt the growth of Internet use. [...] Government control of news media # generally continues to depend on self-censorship to regulate political and # social content, but the authorities also consistently penalize those who # exceed the permissable." - US government statement on China...

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Re: A MODEST PROPOSAL
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Wed Mar 20 1996 Sandy Sandfort wrote: : Having said that, I am totally put off by the gradiose and : devisive ravings of this commentator. During the Second World : War the Nazis required Jews in the occupied countries to wear a : yellow star of David to identify themselves. In Denmark, the : king so identified himself, and soon so did most of his subjects. Ohh pleeez!!, give YOUR ravings a rest Next you'll be raving about soap and lampshades made out of Jews. The story about the Danish King and the Yellow star is a famous wartime lie by the US. When Germany invaded Denmark and Norway, the king of Norway fled to London to continue resistance. The king of Denmark surrendered. Many in the US thought the Danish king was a coward. During the war the story about the yellow star was made up to make the king look better. For more details try out IHRs web site on http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg. A recent article from a British on-line newspaper:- The Electronic Telegraph Tuesday 29 August 1995 Denmark's resistance to Nazis 'is a myth' By John Keegan, Defence Editor DANISH resistance to German occupation during the Second World War is largely a myth, according to a leading historian. The civilian population was not involved in resistance and the celebrated rescue of Denmark's Jews from Nazi deportation was facilitated by the German occupiers themselves. Those caught assisting the Jews' escape were either not punished or else given nominal prison sentences. These astonishing claims were made by Prof Henning Poulsen, of Aarhus University, at a conference on "The Second World War as Myth and History" held in the Swedish Houses of Parliament. The conference was opened by the Swedish foreign minister, Lena Hjelm-Wallen, and closed by the speaker of the Swedish parliament, Birgitta Dahl. Prof Poulsen insisted that his views were not controversial, a view supported by another Danish professor. The official story of the resistance was, he said, no longer accepted by most young Danes, who found it exaggerated and boring. He reminded his audience of fellow historians from Norway, Sweden, Finland, Iceland, Russia, Canada and Germany that Denmark capitulated on the day of the German invasion, May 9, 1940, and was not treated by Germany as a conquered nation. The elected government remained in office and German officials belonging to the administration in Copenhagen made visits to Danish ministers, not vice versa. Danish political parties were allowed to function normally and to maintain democratic debate. The only limitation on their activities was that criticism of Germany was not permitted. The occupation remained a benign one. Werner Best, the SS officer representing the German foreign office, did not wear his black uniform and was not allowed by Himmler to use his high SS rank title. The foreign office was the agency chosen by Hitler to represent German power in Denmark during the occupation. After August 1943, when there were riots in Copenhagen following misbehaviour by German troops, conditions worsened, said Prof Poulsen. The Germans dissolved the elected government and imposed direct administration. Nevertheless, he said, the occupation remained a benign one. Danish civilian rations were more generous than those in Germany and when German police were called on to put down demonstrations in Danish cities they did so under the regulations governing police response to civil disorder in Germany. In his most sensational revelation, he said that the only concentration camp set up by the Germans on Danish soil, at Froesley, never held more than 4,000 inmates, 2,000 fewer than it was designed to contain. Denmark "won a war in which it had not taken part" It was administered by the Danish prison service and was the only concentration camp in the Nazi system where the German guards asked for the same food as the prisoners. It was ironic, Prof Poulsen said, that Denmark was included among the victor nations in 1945 by Britain, America and the Soviet Union. It had thus "won a war in which it had not taken part". Prof Poulsen conceded that there had been resistance in Denmark, but of a military, not civilian, character. By that he appeared to mean that sabotage operations against the Germans were the acts of unrepresentative groups, working in co-operation with the British Special Operations Executive, and did not represent the attitude of the majority of the population. Prof Poulsen's paper is likely to provoke argument, particularly in Britain, America and Israel, where the Danish success in arranging the escape of 95 per cent of the country's 7,000 Jews to neutral Sweden in September, 1943, is hailed as an example of what might have been achieved elsewhere had domestic populations shown the same determination. He suggested that the escape succeeded because the Germans did not try to prevent it and because the worst penalty visited on those fishermen who were caught after smuggling Jews abroad was three months' imprisonment.

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Mailing Lists
by crisper 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Could anyone direct me to some other mailing lists dealing with either computer security or current communication technology, routers,modems etc. Thank you ahead of time. Also could anyone direct me to some good beginner books on cryptography of computer security. When referring books could you make them recent so that they would be regularly available at Barnes&Noble or Borders. Thanks

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Internet Information
by crisper 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Iwas wondering if anyone could pint me to a DETAILED description of the internet routing system. Basically how a message gets from my computer to another lets say in Europe. No need for simplicity I would like a real description. Dont worry abpout protocols just where my message goes. Also does anyone have a list of where the net's routers are located and who runs them. Also their respective routing speeds at the current times. Thank You ahead of time! crisper

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Electronic Frontiers Houston Cyber-Political Questionaire.
by Paul Elliott 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Electronic Frontiers Houston 2476 Bolsover, Suite 145 Houston, Texas 77005 (713) 917-5000 voice // (713) 917-5005 fax Internet: efh(a)efh.org Web site: http://www.efh.org/ Contact: Robbie Westmorland Electronic Frontiers Houston Cyber-Political Questionnaire. Electronic Frontiers Houston has sent all candidates (who survived the recent primaries), a questionnaire relating to the politics of cyberspace. Recently, many questions have arisen relating to the politics of computer networking. These questions often relate to censorship, encryption, or public access to networks. It is important that the public know the candidates' views on these important issues. All candidates will be asked the following questions: If you or your campaign have an Internet electronic mail address, please provide it here: Please answer the questions on the reverse side. Attach additional pages if required. 1. Do you think that electronic publishing should enjoy the constitutional protections that accrue to print media? 2. Do you think that electronic publishing should enjoy the constitutional protections that accrue to broadcast media? 3. Do you think that electronic publishing should enjoy the constitutional protections that accrue to libraries? 4. Do you favor new laws to regulate the content of electronic media? 5. Do you think that the First Amendment rights of free speech protect private use of encryption? 6. Do you favor laws to regulate the private use of encryption? 7. Do you agree with restrictions on the export of technology that incorporates cryptography? 9. Do you support the right of a private individual too publish printed materials anonymously? 10. Should the government play a role in providing access to computer networks? 11. Do you think that the government should guarantee universal access to computer networks? 12. Do you think that access to government computerized information is a right? 13. Should all governmental records that are available to the public be made available via computer resources? 14. Should access to computerized governmental records be free? 15. Should the government regulate electronic financial transactions and require traceability? 16. Do you approve or disapprove of the wiretap provisions in the 1994 Digital Telephony bill? 17. Do you favor expanding law enforcement access to telephonic communications? In addition, candidates for national office will be asked the following additional question: 18. Do you favor legislation which would require a national ID card? Candidates for state office will be asked the following question: 18. Should laws requiring fingerprints to acquire/renew drivers licences be repealed? Electronic Frontiers Houston is a non-profit group that supports civil liberties and the development of culture in cyberspace. -- Paul Elliott Telephone: 1-713-781-4543 Paul.Elliott(a)hrnowl.lonestar.org Address: 3987 South Gessner #224 Houston Texas 77063

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One Nation update from GWB
by Global Web Builders 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------------------------------------------------------------------------- PLEASE NOTE: No unsolicited email is sent. If you do not want to be on the mailing list please say "REMOVE" in the subject line and return this message in the body. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear supporter in NSW, Birthday raffle: ================ The response to the Birthday Raffle has been tremendous... but get in quick before we run out of tickets (max 100,000 on offer)! Here again are the details for participating: The first prize is a QANTAS Global Explorer Holiday for two valued at $12,000 - a 23 day trip visiting Paris, London, New York, Los Angeles, Anaheim and Honolulu. The second prize is a 7 day holiday to Hawaii at the Outrigger Reef Hotel for two - value $5,000. The third prize is a 7 nights stay at the Novotel Palm Cove at Cairns - value $3,000. You can order a book of 5 tickets (minimum) at $10 per book (or $2 per ticket) by credit card by phoning 1800 620088. Winner's names being drawn at One Nation's Birthday Party at 7pm on April 11th 1998. Winners will be notified by phone and mail with the results being published in the Sydney Morning Herald on Friday 17th April 1998. It's Blair: =========== Pauline Hanson has confirmed that she will be running for the lower house seat of Blair in the next Federal election. Full press release details can be seen at: http://www.gwb.com.au/onenation/press/270298.html Some Internet addresses to keep an eye on: ========================================== "I'm so, so sorry Pauline" While everybody else is getting in on the "Sorry" act the treatment being meted out to Pauline Hanson by the media deserves an apology to our favourite lady. Here you can send an email to a moderated web page on which messages of apology and comfort are posted to show support for the valuable work that Pauline Hanson is doing to take Australia back from the brink. http://www.gwb.com.au/sorry.html ------------------------------------------------ The Australian National News of the Day: A daily on-line paper which follows the history of One Nation. With an extensive archive dating back over two years (archive available to subscribers) http://www.gwb.com.au/head.html ------------------------------------------------ The four corners of Australia's Trojan Horse: See how the Australian media are misrepresenting the news and distorting the truth to discredit Pauline Hanson with their willing partners the ALP and the Liberal party. References are taken from press articles that have run in the mainstream media. Let us remember it was the ALP and the Coalition who allowed Rupert Murdoch (an American) and Kerry Packer to gain the hold that they have today on our media. See what they get in return for these favours. http://www.gwb.com.au/gwb/news/onenation/news.html -------------------------------------------------- Pauline Hanson's One Nation: http://www.gwb.com.au/onenation -------------------------------------------------- Finally, as we approach the federal election we will be calling on volunteers to assist in mail drops etc... please get your friends and family to subscribe to this news letter so that we can keep them informed on how they can help Pauline and her team turn Australia around. REMEMBER only PEOPLE POWER is going to keep Australia **One Nation**. That means ALL OFF YOU!! D O I T N O W !!!! GWB Scott Balson Web master Pauline Hanson's One Nation web site

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IRS Spam on CJ
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This is a follow-up to the IRS Jim Bell spam last year, the IRS troll on CNN recently and other provocations. Anybody get IRS or other spam/troll about CJ? If so, we'd like to see the message with full headers (ID omitted if you like). Post here or send privately. Anon okay, probably best. We'll share what we get. If PGP preferred use the latest PK on the servers for <jya(a)pipeline.com>, or any of the older ones. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBNgDz7YNEX855Nu9gEQIVcgCfRebUik5OdC0JDOZC0U7/C815I3cAniER uOjU/6mmkkO/edw80+qMKnN8 =xEON -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Know Your Net.Enemies Project [noise]
by jf_avon＠citenet.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Rich Graves <llurch(a)networking.stanford.edu> ambiguously wrote: >definitely be added. I'll write the FUCKING STATIST section. Do you use 'FUCKIN' as an adjective or as an active verb? :) Sorry, couldn't resist :-> JFA

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by Fabio Rosetti 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Returned mail: User unknown
by Mail Delivery Subsystem 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The original message was received at Mon, 2 Mar 1998 14:07:36 -0500 (EST) from ts35-10.homenet.ohio-state.edu [140.254.114.193] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <54689590(a)hotmail.com> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mail.hotmail.com.: >>> RCPT To:<54689590(a)hotmail.com> <<< 550 Unknown user <54689590> 550 <54689590(a)hotmail.com>... User unknown Reporting-MTA: dns; mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu Received-From-MTA: DNS; ts35-10.homenet.ohio-state.edu Arrival-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 14:07:36 -0500 (EST) Final-Recipient: RFC822; 54689590(a)hotmail.com Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; mail.hotmail.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 Unknown user <54689590> Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 14:07:44 -0500 (EST) To: 54689590(a)hotmail.com Subject: REMOVE From: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Wed, 02 Jan 1980 01:41:00 -0500 Reply-To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com

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