December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

IP: ISPI Clips 5.38: TRUSTe is Creating a New Child Privacy Program
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: "ama-gi ISPI" <offshore(a)email.msn.com> Subject: IP: ISPI Clips 5.38: TRUSTe is Creating a New Child Privacy Program Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:12:32 -0700 To: <Undisclosed.Recipients(a)majordomo.pobox.com> ISPI Clips 5.38: TRUSTe is Creating a New Child Privacy Program News & Info from the Institute for the Study of Privacy Issues (ISPI) Wednesday October 14, 1998 ISPI4Privacy(a)ama-gi.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This From: CNET News.com, October 13, 1998 http://www.news.com New Guidelines on Child Privacy http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,27489,00.html?dd.ne.tx.fs2.1013 By Tim Clark and Courtney Macavinta Staff Writers, CNET News.com Industry group TRUSTe [ http://www.truste.org/ ] is creating a new child privacy program that it hopes will address issues raised by the Federal Trade Commission and the so-called Bryan bill now pending in Congress. The FTC has reviewed TRUSTe's child privacy guidelines, which generally bar Web sites from collecting personal information from children under 13 without verifiable parental permission. They also require child-oriented Web sites to state clearly and prominently what information is being collected and how it is shared. "We want to help these sites catering to kids implement the bill," said Susan Scott, TRUSTe executive director. "We have created a unique children's seals, and to get that seal, sites need to comply with all the FTC requirements to create and implement privacy statements." Authored by Sen. Richard Bryan (D-Nevada), the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act was tacked on to the Internet Tax Freedom Act. The provision requires parental consent before Internet sites can collect information online from children age 12 and under. TRUSTe backs the Bryan bill but is concerned that is currently tied to Internet censorship legislation. One major children's site, Yahooligans plans to post TRUSTe's new child privacy seal because it says its practices comply with TRUSTe's guidelines. TRUSTe is talking to another major children's site, Disney about joining the program too. "Our privacy practices are in compliance with keeping a safe environment on the Web," said Rob McHugh, senior producer for Yahooligans, which has updated its privacy statement but not changed its practices to obtain the children's privacy seal. Yahooligans collects first names, age, gender, and home state, but no individually identifiable information, such email or physical address. "The practices are in effect right now for any new applicants [for TRUSTe's logo] for sites directed at kids under 13," Scott said. TRUSTe hopes its guidelines will become a "safe harbor" for child-oriented sites. That means the FTC would accept a site's use of the TRUSTe child privacy mark as evidence the site is following the law, with TRUSTe essentially becoming an enforcement arm. The FTC still must promulgate regulations on child privacy, and TRUSTe expects to alter its guidelines based on the federal agency's final rules, which may not be completed for a year. Scott expects no major changes. The Bryan bill would be the first online privacy legislation to pass, giving the FTC authority it previously felt it didn't have to enforce privacy rules. Scott predicts that requiring parental permission before collecting personal data on children will reduce the amount of information sites request. "The cost of business has gone up because of the verification [that parents approve]," she said. "Sites will need to look at their business models to see if they need that personal information." Scott praised Bryan for taking industry concerns into account by altering the initial legislation, for example, to apply specifically to commercial sites--not nonprofits--and by limiting the parental permission requirement to children 12 years and under, not ages 13 to 19. The Net Tax Freedom Act is still in limbo today as Congress's session comes down to the wire. The Senate passed the three-year moratorium on new Net taxes, but if the House doesn't push it through as is then Congress will likely run out of time to pass the legislation. There is speculation, however, that the tax moratorium will be attached to omnibus spending legislation that could be passed by midnight tomorrow before both houses adjourn. If the bill is passed, the child privacy protections also will be ushered into law. But the Net tax bill also contains a controversial provision by Sen. Dan Coats (R-Indiana) that exempts commercial sites from the tax break if they give minors unfettered access to "harmful" material. Specifically, TRUSTe's Children's Seal Program requires that licensees not: *Collect information from a child under 13 without parental consent or direct parental notification of the nature and intended use of the data. Parents should be able to prevent use of the information. *Collect personally identifiable offline contact information from children under 13 without parental consent. *Distribute to third parties any personal data collected from a child under 13 without parental consent. *Allow children under 13 to publicly post or otherwise distribute personal information without parental consent. Sites must try to prohibit children from posting any contact information. *Use a games or prizes to entice a child under 13 to divulge more information than is needed. 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hey DIRNSA: can't talk to allies
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

COMMUNICATIONS SECURITY TITLE: COMSEC - Secure Voice Telephones LESSON LEARNED: NATO elements must learn to use the standard secure telephones. BACKGROUND: For future NATO-led operations, it must be stressed that the NATO secure telephone standard is the STU IIB. Augmenting forces must bring compatible equipment if it stays under national control. Must come to grips with the US and NATO secure telephones within the command. There are problems associated with US and NATO secure telephones: The STU III/STU IIIA has not been released to NATO, so they should be eliminated from the NATO comm system. The NATO standard is the STU IIIB, only the STU IIB is compatible with the STU IIIA. Cannot adhere to US security regulations for protecting US secure voice systems in an allied environment. RECOMMENDATION: Consider a letter to DIRNSA requesting relaxation of current US policy. http://call.army.mil/call/spc%5Fprod/5sigcd/2tact.htm

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RE: DNA (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Matthew James Gering <mgering(a)ecosystems.net> > Subject: RE: DNA > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:34:07 -0700 > > But what about identical sib's. They all > > have exactly the same DNA! Actualy identical twins will only share about 50% of their DNA. They get 50% from each parent randomly. This means that only about 25% of the DNA will match their sibling from either parent. > Or a clone ;). This of course ignores transcription errors, environment issues, etc. It is possible that even a clone would have protein discrepencies which trace back to DNA strands that end up different than the original source organism. As the organism develops and ages these issues can become quite important. This aspect of DNA matching has gotten the short shift for sure. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Two Jims, Werner and Matt redefine socialism for their own en ds
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> >> something like Belloc and Chesterton's "distributivism". > > > Distribute what and created by whom? > > Every libertarian or cypherpunk ought to have read "The Servile State" > by Hilaire Belloc. ...and in that context what is being distributed is > *land*, as private property to be lived on, farmed and passed on to > children. If you believe there is a single valid concept in that whole populist/agrarian bullshit I can shoot it down, otherwise it is not worth my time. Matt

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Tim May Investigations
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Gary Burnore vs. Earth (Was: Value of Annon. Remailers)
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: Anonymous <nobody(a)replay.com> > > Information Security <guy(a)panix.com> wrote: > > > Let us know when you have an original thought. > > Ad hominem often comes in handy... You are too touchy to be on the Internet, leave now! ;-) > > > From: Missouri FreeNet Administration <sysadmin(a)mfn.org> > > > > > > Obviously, as defenders of this man's right to post material offensive > > > to Burnore, we too came under attack. > > > > One man's attack is another's defense. > > I'll have to remember that one. Some defense lawyers in Wyoming > might want to use it in their clients' trial for their "defense" > against that gay student. You are equating speech to physical violence. Not a good way to defend anonymizers. > Now about Gary Burnore's "defense" against the underaged daughter of > his girlfriend... Like, why should cypherpunks care? You said it's not causing you a connectivity problem. You are boring everyone for no known reason. > > > The point here is that what little survives about this lunatic child > > > molester (he has even successfully had his North Carolina Sex Offender record > > > removed!),... > > > > Gee, why don't you ask North Carolina why, in writing? > > Irrelevant. The North Carolina website of registered sex offenders > was only the vehicle by which the truth about Gary Burnore's > existing conviction in California became known. Depublishing it in > NC on some technicality... What technicality? > which sentenced him to probation and required him to register > as a sex offender. I wonder if Pee Wee Herman had to register. > Perhaps the original whistleblower's e-mailed warnings led > or contributed to Burnore's arrest, and to the resulting > psychiatric treatment which may have protected future > potential victims. Just a bunch of nutters flaming each other endlessly. ---guy

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Re: Use encryption to foil spooks' data harvesting, says US statedept
by Richard.Bragg＠ssa.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

and how about some innocuous words/phases that might cause apoplexy i talk to the pillow (PLO) every night i was there doing ... with ..., i wish. <insert name> was dead on his feet .... it goes on. I like the encryption bit. Season your conversations with encryption and they won't find the wood for the trees. Who actually needs encryption in this case. Everyone can just put the word encryption into every conversation every other sentence. Miles of recording tape, (bytes of memory, whatever) just stuffed with inane conversation with a few select phrases. leif(a)imho.net on 15/10/98 14:20:26 To: Richard Bragg/UK/SSA_EUROPE cc: Subject: Re: Use encryption to foil spooks' data harvesting, says US statedept GOOD that did not bounce... Over the last few days my imho mail bounced.. mostly from some DNS, and mail server problems since I made some changes... (at my office who is at this point my mail hub... hehe it is fun to be the SA) OK words or phrases that can be used. Death Kill Destroy ENCRYPTION President Vice President First Lady Bomb dead maim hate if used correctly missile ( I am sure it is in the list if used correctly ) Nerve gas lets see should I go on or do you have the idea.. Here is a hint... I was talking with a friend one day a computer geek himself and we mentioned the word encryption and started talking about said stuff... Well after that word was aid we here a clicking type noise in the background??? HUMMMMMMMMM we change the subject and after some time talking it goes away we say encryption and it came back.... HUMMMMMMMM Go figure. - lhe

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Art Bell
by Edwin E. Smith 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Is Art Bell related to Jim Bell? The following was sent via LibertyWire: Bell Tolls No More Wired News Report http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/15588.html http://www.artbell.com/artquits.html 2:25 p.m. 13.Oct.98.PDT Art Bell, the popular host of the late-night radio show "Coast To Coast AM" is turning off his microphone indefinitely. In Bell's Tuesday morning show he told listeners, "... a threatening terrible event tell you about. Because of that event, and a succession of other events, what you're listening to right now, is my final broadcast on the air."

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I saw the craziest thing last night...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I wanted to share with you an experience perhaps worth contemplating... Around 8pm or so last nite I got hungry and the dogs looked at me with those big brown "Help me" eyes and off we trundle to the golden arches. I drive over the 5-6 blocks to N. Lamar and head north. It's about 2 miles or so max. As I get to Mickey Dee's I realize that there is a street bum in the road. There is S. bound traffic and he's about halfway across when I notice the cars are getting pretty close. Well about this time a vehicle with no lights (yet it's after dark) but yellow running lights (I believe that's illegal in this state) begins to continously sound its horn as it approaches the crosser. No apparent attempt to slow down or change lanes was made. The car ended up missing the guy by less than 3 ft. What was really a riot was it was an Austin Police car. Unfortunately I don't read well backward at night so I didn't get a vehicle id or a license so this qualifies as nothing more than another net rumor. It's pretty damn bad when the police resort to assault with a motor vehicle to control street people. Can the recent Supreme Court ruling allowing police to kill you in a high-speed chase as an innocent bystander to protect you from the perp with complete immunity be extended to pursuit of an unrepentant donut? When I was a kid it used to say "To Protect and Serve", not "To Protect or Kill". Isn't the point of a public servant to *serve* the people in a decent, respectful manner? If taken as a given then it's clear that public safety *always* takes precedence over 'catch the crook'. It's better to let the perp run through a neighborhood he's already going to go through and spend resources getting people into their homes and out of the way than it is to prove what a dairing-do bunch of local boys can do catching outlaws, but killing some of the local folks in the process. I appreciate the potential for hostages (even entire neighborhoods) but please explain how this ruling changes those instances in any way? Perhaps we need an amendment that provides a proviso on the rulings of the Supreme Court. Instead of these sorts of dicta having the weight of law, which it shouldn't have since it's not legislative, they should be required to be handed over to Congress for resolution via the normal law making process. This would limit the Supreme Court to interpretations of existing law (per the 9th & 10th Amendment). We definitely need an end to the post-Vietnam, post-Cold War testosterone rush we're living in now. Like it or not, the more initialy confrontational the government gets the more violence it will beget. And trying to justify those strategies by claiming a responce to a rise in violence only begs the question. Perhaps this realization is at least one reason that the equality of the federal level, state level, and individual civil rights has become so critical and so ignored. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Limited Impeachment Probes...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: and no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present. Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This would seem to indicate that the only issue a federal prosecutor needs to be interested in is proving *some* illegal act took place. Not what that act may have actualy been, though describing it may be required. Once that is resolved the other legal aspects fall to the attorney general or district attorney in the appropriate region. With that in mind, its pretty interesting at all the money and effort that's been spent on nothing that is materialy relevant to the issue at hand. Though it is interesting that the issue of profit (running a business?) comes up in the consequences. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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