December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

IMPORTANT! Fwd: Social Engineering & C68
by Jean-Francois Avon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi! My name is Jean-Francois Avon. Almost all of you who will read this message know me personnally. I forward this message to you for I believe that it is of *great* importance. The message discuss things that *will* affect your life in one way or another. PLEASE take the time to read it. The implications of what is discussed in this document will affect *everybody*. PLEASE! DO READ IT COMPLETELY! Jean-Francois Avon ==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE================== >Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 10:37:30 -0700 >From: Dan MacInnis <dan.louise(a)sympatico.ca> >Reply-To: dan.louise(a)sympatico.ca >To: cdn-firearms-digest(a)broadway.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca >CC: mkhughe(a)north.nsis.com, jf_avon(a)citenet.net >Subject: Social Engineering & C68 Let me begin by commenting I know this is not a 'chat' digest, but the question was raised here about Quebec/Maritime involvement if fighting C68 [the new firearms registration bill]. To be fair, there is quite a bit of work being done by individuals, but government is mute down there, and for ecomonic reasons, must be. The reluctance or simply because the populance had no personal arms of men and women to fight back when their wives, children, possessions etc. were being taken away is however, as in Nazi Germany and Kosovo today, is, I suggest, a major plank in Social Engineering of a Society. >From this point I will probably be branded as a "radical'. So be it. I am educated in Engineering and Philosophy, the former teaches system and the latter teaches thinking on, I would argue, another scale. The new so called 'Global' economy will, and already has, caused major social upheaval. People who were middle class a few short years ago are now on the streets or almost there due to the relocaction of work to countries with a lower wage scale. Mexico, India, two of which I have first hand knowledge, the wages are less than %10 of North American rates. Workers and management both were'are being 'let go', out of a source of income. The stock market was inundated with large sums of cash, the source was the money paid to let go people, their severance package. Hence, the inflated price of shares, which the market is just now correcting, to the detriment of retirement payouts from Mutual Fund to these laid off workers. Their future is bleak, to put it mildly. Farmers must be, by international trade laws, cut off from government support and assistannce, to give an example, hog and milk subsidies. So they face a bleak future in Canada. Quebec fought hard for Free Trade, until the dairy and hog farmers read the fine print. Now we had a milk strike, annd as I write, the hog farmers in Quebec are raising Hale. Jean Francois Avon wrote in response to my earlier diatribe on Jews/Kosovians(I hope he copied this Digest) that Quebec Separatists would be afraid of an armed populace. I suggest he is correct. So too are the federal and eastern Canadian provincial governments afraid of guns in the hands of civilians. They see them as weapons which could be used against them and the establishment as the economy changes and more and more middle class people, farmers, fishermen and former managers reach the lower ranks of income and living conditions. In Canada, we rank social standing by job/income/education to do a job. We rated fur trappers at the bottom, because it payed poorly and required little formal education to perform. Tie in to Bill C68? Well, Allan Rock let the cat out of the bag. When he was briefed after becoming Minister of Justice, it was explained to him that the program to disarm civilians began when Free Trade/Global Economy talks were in their early stages, was running behind shedule. In his jubulance, determined to 'get the job done', where Mulroney had slowed down after an aggressive start, he blurted out the program on live TV. 'Only police and the military should have guns'. In the opinion of the various goverments, including Quebec, Ottawa and some provinces, the program must be complete, and must be completed soon. Farmers, as they lose their farms to financial institutions, fishermen, as they lose thier boats, certain interests in Quebec as they lose everything due to separation, may fight back. It is therefore critical that they do not have access to arms, as a means of defence or aggression. The War Measures act is gone, replaced. A legal means had to be manufactured to remove guns from the people. Hence, C68 is a good beginning. It allows confiscation of any firearms so deemed by the incumbent government later on. No, my friends, Ottawa is not stupid, this is a well thought out plan, and appears to be working, as they use mass media on the population, to change public opinion to their side, i.e., guns are dangerous especially to women and children. In fact, firearms in the hands of civilians are dangerous, but to repressive governments from a displaced populace. As more and more Canadians find everything they worked for threatened, some MIGHT fight back, and shoot the Bailiff's from the Banks and the police sent to protect them when they re-possess their property and throw them, literally, on the streets, on into their relatives homes. Registration? Use of the harsh Criminal Code, jail, for non-compliance?? Necessary, in Ottawa's view. Get the job begun earlier finished, then they can go on the the greater plan, more relaxed when people have no means of defence or rebellion. When you live on the streets, there is no place to hide a gun. Not to sound trite, but this will test 'unsafe storage' laws to the limit. If the Supreme Court judges have been properly briefed on the Social Engineering aspects of C68, we do not have a chance in Hell in the courts. Then, we will have a search and seizure, after 2003, to actively find and confiscate unregistered and illegal (by now) guns on farms, in houses, examples made in the Press of a few, and the game is over. Is this gloom and doom from me, or a realistic analysis of the situation? You decide, but at least think about it from a broader angle than simply telling Ottawa how many, the serial number and storage place of your firearms today. We need only to look at the history of Scotland to see Quebec today and the ROC tomorrow. And C68 plays a huge role in this. ===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE=================== Jean-Francois Avon, B.Sc. Physics, Montreal, Canada DePompadour, Société d'Importation Ltée Limoges fine porcelain and french crystal JFA Technologies, R&D physicists & engineers Instrumentation & control, LabView programming PGP keys: http://bs.mit.edu:8001/pks-toplev.html PGP ID:C58ADD0D:529645E8205A8A5E F87CC86FAEFEF891 PGP ID:5B51964D:152ACCBCD4A481B0 254011193237822C

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test1
by Igor Chudov 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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2 questions: Prime Numbers and DES
by steve.benjamin＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

1. How can I generate 2 large prime numbers? I doubt I could create 2, 100-digit prime numbers in my head :-) 2. Is there an implentation of DES in perl? I didn't see a link to one on the export-a-sig page. If not perl, is there one for DOS? I'm looking for a bare bones one, not something with tons of features and a GUI. A perl or dos version of the unix "des" program would be preferable. Thanks! Stephen Benjamin Steve.Benjamin(a)juno.com ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

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CDR Node Test (no reply)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Test (no reply) ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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17 Dec '03

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Year 2000 opportunity?
by Soren 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: What's up with algebra.com?
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

What with the Feds now going after CJ for attempted murder of federal officials (film ad overkill!), Jeff Gordon soliciting cypherpunk subscribers to flesh that fancy, and one CDR operator flattered with a subpoena, it'd be prudent to have a way to check on whether a CDR node has been taken down or turned, and the operator hogtied with the system as evidence (or forced to run a sting to gather it), before a clamp's put on telling what's going on. May be too late, too late. Recall it's a major offense for revealing placement of a wiretap, surveillance or a covert investigation -- especially if you're assisting, willingly or unwillingly. Not that one should advocate hiding what might be construed as evidence or exposing underbelly work that's ordered concealed. Why that might be taken to be pushing a conspiracy against WMD-crazed authority rather than promoting personal hygiene with lots of sunshine and vigorous exercise of rights to fanciful imaginings of what a world would be like without minders galore. Whistling in the dark, mind you. Consider that there are 118,000 federal prisoners. That's a very big inhospitality business, and its growing, private and feds rubbing hands and futures. For an overview of exactly how the chain operates (in case you're planning a stay or a stock buy) gander the list of its bountiful rules and regs: http://jya.com/bop-progstat.htm Inmates are forbidden access to the Internet (PS 1241.02 Internet and the World Wide Web), however, they are encouraged to do creative writing (PS 5350.07 Inmate Manuscripts), so Jim Bell, CJ and a few of us deserve a suite overlooking the garden of evil.

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Re: What's up with algebra.com? (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:44:37 -0400 > From: John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> > Subject: Re: What's up with algebra.com? > What with the Feds now going after CJ for attempted > murder of federal officials (film ad overkill!), Jeff Gordon > soliciting cypherpunk subscribers to flesh that fancy, > and one CDR operator flattered with a subpoena, it'd be > prudent to have a way to check on whether a CDR node > has been taken down or turned, and the operator hogtied > with the system as evidence (or forced to run a sting to > gather it), before a clamp's put on telling what's going on. If anybody figures out a way to achieve such security I'd like to know. As far as I know the only way to keep a box up is to be sure that there are 'works in progress' from users who are not directly involved in the operation of the system. They are eligible for $1000/day each day they are deprived of access without a warrant. If they are completely uninvolved it *might* make a magistrate hesitate about generating a warrant. As to my subpoena, it looks like I *may* have to do nothing more than sign an affadavit saying that I didn't participate or discuss the above mentioned issues with CJ when he was in Austin. I should know more later in the week. I did find out that the reason they picked me was that when CJ was arrested he happened to be carrying a copy of the post I did several months ago in responce to a question regarding destroying floppy drives and computers using a floppy disk. Apparently they thought I might be some sort of mad-bomb designer or something. I have to assume that since I wasn't arrested at the first interview they figured I was reasonably harmless concerning assaults of the person or helping CJ in a material way. As to there being wiretaps and permanent LEA monitors on the list, you betcha. > May be too late, too late. Sigh. > Recall it's a major offense for revealing placement of a > wiretap, surveillance or a covert investigation -- especially > if you're assisting, willingly or unwillingly. They can take SSZ down or run it themselves (hope they got somebody that knows Linux 1.1.59 cause otherwise they won't be running it for long) but I won't participate in entrapment. And I suspect, though I don't know, that my arrest and lack of interaction with other users would set off flairs pretty quickly in that case. How long it might take to percolate back to Cypherpunks I don't have a clue. One major aspect of all this that I have found particularly unsettling is that I really don't have family or anybody for support. I think about the only thing worse than imagining oneself sitting in a jail with no hope of visitors, letters, etc. is a funeral with nobody there but the preacher. On a related issue, I have found it somewhat amusing that all the Austin Cpunks have scattered like a covey of quail. Only one of them even offered to help (Muchas gracias for the lawyer referals!). I had one person call and make sure that I knew they weren't at the meeting CJ attended. I'm seriously considering dropping sponsorship of the local group (and I sure as hell won't stop to help fix a flat now). > Consider that there are 118,000 federal prisoners. That's a very That means there are over 900,000 state, country, and municipal prisoners since there are over 1M in jail today. For a democracy that's incredibly damning. Legalize consenual crimes! ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- -------------------------------------------------------------------- ps not crypto related but if you're a science book hound, check out: Elementary Mechanics of Fluids H. Rouse ISBN 0-486-63699-2 (Dover) $11.95 Physics by example: 200 problems and solutions WG Rees ISBN 0-521-44975-8 $? (I bought my copy used)

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Re: What's up with algebra.com? (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Subject: Re: What's up with algebra.com? > Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:43:46 -0500 (CDT) > From: ichudov(a)algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home) > As far as algebra.com is concerned, the list went down because > my upstream site just installed anti-relaying rules, and everything > going to algebra.com was rejected. Also, sendmail was not setuid > and could not create mqueue files. Hmm. Interesting. The errors I was recieving were from algebra.com and it complained of unknown user cypherpunks. > I wish I could boast receiving attention from the IRS/BATF or > whatever, but so far i has not happened. You're welcome to mine...:) ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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IP: 'Intelligent' computer matches mugshots w/ faces in a crowd
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: believer(a)telepath.com Subject: IP: 'Intelligent' computer matches mugshots w/ faces in a crowd Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 08:46:25 -0500 To: believer(a)telepath.com Source: Fox News - AP 'Intelligent' computer system matches mug shots with faces in a crowd 9.22 p.m. ET (123 GMT) October 17, 1998 LONDON (AP) An "intelligent'' computer system that uses closed circuit television to match faces in a crowd to mug shots of known criminals is likely to become London's latest weapon against crime. Scotland Yard and a local council have installed the $100,000 CCTV system on a trial basis in Newham, a poor district in London's East End. Newspapers reported Thursday that the computer system, called Mandrake, is linked to 144 CCTVs in Newham's shopping centers, railway stations and car parks and can scan up to 150 faces at a time and compare them with a database of criminals stored on a computer at the council's headquarters. If there is a match between a face in the crowd and a known criminal, the computer alerts a monitoring team in the town hall, who in turn alert the police. Civil liberties groups said they were alarmed by the new system, but police defended its use. "The only people entered on to the system will be convicted criminals who, through our intelligence, we believe are habitually committing crimes in the area,'' The Daily Mail quoted police Chief Superintendent Dave Armond as saying. "If people are not committing crime they have nothing to fear, but if they are among the small minority who are, the message is, 'We are watching out for you.''' The newspaper reported that police initially will use the system to concentrate on catching robbery suspects. In the future, however, it could be used to search crowds for hooligans who stir up trouble at soccer matches. CCTV's developer, Software and Systems International, says the system is accurate enough to discern people hiding behind make-up or eye glasses. And growing a beard won't help either, the company says. Britain has 150,000 close circuit television cameras. While most Britons appear happy the devices are being used to tackle crime, civil liberties groups oppose both the cameras and the facial matching. "The accuracy of facial mapping like this is limited. You only need a handful of photographs of celebrities to see how different the same people can look in different pictures,'' the Mail quoted Liz Parratt, spokeswoman for Liberty, a civil rights group, as saying. "Even if you did have a system which worked, it would have to be regulated very carefully to protect people's privacy.'' © 1998 Associated Press. All rights reserved. ----------------------- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ----------------------- **************************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address or (un)subscribe ignition-point-digest email@address **************************************************** www.telepath.com/believer ****************************************************

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