December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

DoJ investigates CIA [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > X-within-URL: http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/05/cia.hughes.ap/ > JUSTICE INVESTIGATING CIA FOR POSSIBLE CRIMINAL VIOLATIONS > > CIA Graphic December 5, 1998 > Web posted at: 1:38 p.m. EST (1838 GMT) > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Justice Department is conducting an > obstruction-of-justice investigation of CIA officials who passed along > to a satellite contractor sensitive information about a Senate > investigation into technology transfers to China. > > Government officials reached late Friday said the criminal > investigation centers on information passed by the intelligence agency > to Hughes Electronics Corp., maker of both commercial and spy > satellite systems. > > At issue is whether that information compromised a Senate Intelligence > Committee investigation into allegations that Hughes and other U.S. > companies violated federal export laws by sharing restricted > technology with China as part of commercial satellite export deals. [text deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ If I can put in one word what has always infuriated me in any person, any group, any movement, or any nation, it is: bullying Howard Zinn The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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(eternity) democracy is a bad idea on the net too! (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 20:26:51 GMT > From: Adam Back <aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk> > Subject: (eternity) democracy is a bad idea on the net too! > Markus Kuhn wrote: > > The main research aspect of this project is the joint administration of > > such distributed archives. For spam protection, you still need people > > who decide, which files are allowed on the distributed server > > infrastructure, and which are not. > > I think a better deciding factor of which files remain and which don't > is hard, anonymous ecash. Allow the author, or server to charge for > storage, and charge for access. Allow readers to contribute ecash to > the continued existance of a data. Throw the lot together and let > profit maximisation sort the rest out. There is some window for abuse in this method. It allows a well endowed entity to bias the information available. There is also the question of data degredation, in the sense of worth, over time versus the archival/historical worth of the data. Two major negatives to a free-market approach that are never discussed. ____________________________________________________________________ If I can put in one word what has always infuriated me in any person, any group, any movement, or any nation, it is: bullying Howard Zinn The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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by BannerExplode＠usa.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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eternity using politics rather than economics
by Ryan Lackey 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

When I was working on Eternity DDS stuff, I basically came to the same conclusion as Adam -- without anonymous bearer cash, you can't do a workable eternity implementation. It's an open question whether you could issue bearer cash backed in Eternity-units. That was my original plan, but it seems you would still want to have gold-units to trade for Eternity units. The problems of guaranteeing quality of service in exchange for Eternity units are complicated but tractable, but having a separate scheme for auditing performance. Where I think "political" schemes would be particularly beneficial is in sharing administrative control over a virtual corporation, etc. While those who believe Coase would believe corporations will devolve into individuals or even autonomous agents, it might be a worthwhile tool during the transition. As far as I can tell, having a good Eternity implementation is still blocked on getting a reasonable electronic cash system. There are some people in Anguilla...

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RE: What was the quid pro quo for Wassenaar countries?
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> The end result being the NSA should able to read India and Chinas > communications without irritations. You think India won't be able to develop strong encryption indigenously?! You obviously haven't been keeping up with the times. One word...Bangalore. Despite the export rhetoric, the real and intended affect it to prevent widespread *domestic* use. By making the market much smaller (domestic) only, creating FUD, there are less crypto suppliers and much higher costs. Matt

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Re: the shit hitting the fan (fwd)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>It's during times like these that you learn more about your fellow >c'punks than you need to ... You're correct. I had no clue that the Cypherpunks were such a shitty group. >On Fri, 4 Dec 1998, Jim Choate wrote: > >> Forwarded message: >> >> > Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 06:00:13 +0100 >> > From: Anonymous <nobody(a)replay.com> >> > Subject: the shit hitting the fan >> >> > LA has 1e7 people who shit about a kilo per day. Compute the volume of that >> > after a week. >> >> It's not the raw volume that's critical but rather the percentage of the >> average personal space per inhabitant versus how much to store a weeks >> worth. For the average person storing a weeks worth of solid waste in a >> platic bag with bleach, lye, or similar material is reasonable. >> >> I've gone on long duration camping trips of about a weeks length and the >> storing and portage costs are not excessive (having a boat or horse helps >> move it around). FlushMonger

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Re: the shit hitting the fan (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 18:13:03 -0500 (EST) > From: Rabid Wombat <wombat(a)mcfeely.bsfs.org> > Subject: Re: the shit hitting the fan (fwd) > It's during times like these that you learn more about your fellow > c'punks than you need to ... > On Fri, 4 Dec 1998, Jim Choate wrote: > > > Forwarded message: > > I've gone on long duration camping trips of about a weeks length and the > > storing and portage costs are not excessive (having a boat or horse helps > > move it around). It's not my choice, it's the law (for many national and state parks). You've got to pach your pets if you take them along as well. ____________________________________________________________________ If I can put in one word what has always infuriated me in any person, any group, any movement, or any nation, it is: bullying Howard Zinn The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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explanation of public key cryptography
by ichudov＠Algebra.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

My friend needs a website with explanations of PK cryptography and related interesting protocols. I have Schneier's book but she lives far from me and the book is too long for her to read. Any suggestions for something on the Web? thanks igor

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by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> My friend needs a website with explanations of PK cryptography > and related interesting protocols. I have Schneier's book but she > lives far from me and the book is too long for her to read. > > Any suggestions for something on the Web? This does not fully explain the protocols, but an explanation of RSA is available at John Young's Cryptome. http://jya.com/whprsa.htm Download it, though, because it was one of the files relating to Bill Payne which will most likely be deleted when he gets his own web page up as promised. Diffie-Hellman and NSA's Key Exchange Algorithm need no URLs -- Diffie-Hellman was designed by Whitfield Diffie and Martin Hellman, and its publication sparked public-key cryptography (and received a standing ovation when presented). The Key Exchange Algorithm (KEA) is an NSA "type II" algorithm used in the Defense Messaging System. It was kept classified until recently. Schneier mentions in his CRYPTO-GRAM newsletter that problems with making tamper-resistant hardware carrying the algorithm may have led to its release. The devices are named A and B. Brackets represent a value's "owner." Diffie-Hellman: Both: Retrieve public values g and p. A: Chooses a random secret value x[A]. Calculates X[A]=g^x[A] mod p. Sends X[A] to B. B: Chooses a random secret value x[B]. Calculates X[B]=g^x[A] mod p. Sends X[B] to A. A: Raises value received from B to the x[A] power and uses this to calculate the key. B: Raises value received from A to the x[B] power and uses this to calculate the key. KEA: (this is a modified version of an old post to Cypherpunks) Constants: p: 1024-bit prime modulus q: 160-bit prime divisor of p-1 g: 1024-bit base Secret user-dependent values: x: 160-bit random key r: 160-bit random key Public user-dependent values: Y: g^x mod p R: g^r mod p z(x, y) represents KEA threshing. 1 A->B: Y[a] 2 B->A: Y[b] 3 A->B: R[a] 4 B->A: R[b] 5 A : (Y[b])^q mod p = 1? If not, stop; (R[b])^q mod p = 1? If not, stop; Are Y[b] and R[b] between 1 and p? If not, stop. 6 B : (Y[a])^q mod p = 1? If not, stop; (R[a])^q mod p = 1? If not, stop; Are Y[a] and R[a] between 1 and p? If not, stop. 7 A : t[ab]=(Y[b])^r[a] mod p; u[ab]=(R[b])^x[a] mod p 8 B : t[ab]=(R[a])^x[b] mod p; u[ab]=(Y[a])^r[b] mod p 9 A : (t[ab]+u[ab]) mod p = 0? If so, stop; if not, Key=z(t[ab],u[ab]) 10 B : (t[ab]+u[ab]) mod p = 0? If so, stop; if not, Key=z(t[ab],u[ab]) Zero-Knowledge Protocols: http://www.tcm.hut.fi/Opinnot/Tik-110.501/1995/zeroknowledge.html RSA Data Security's RSA Labs on protocols: http://www.rsa.com/rsalabs/faq/html/7.html > > thanks > > igor

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[Fwd: y2k/gary north delusions]
by Soren 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

William J. Hartwell dropped this in my mailbox ... To: Soren <sorens(a)workmail.com> Subject: Re: y2k/gary north delusions From: "William J.Hartwell" <billh(a)ibag.com> Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 14:21:32 -0700 In-Reply-To: <366958DF.FBF816FC(a)workmail.com> References: <199812050047.SAA19462(a)manifold.algebra.com><36694C23.B4CB9509(a)nyu.edu> <toilet talk trimmed out> > >That's the fun part, figuring out how it could all be made to work. > >Unfortunately it's more likely that the sheeple will cry out for guvmint >intervention to continue the flow of goodies, to which the western world >has become addicted. > >IMHO, the military will be brought in to dig the latrines. Hoarders will >be strung up for not redistributing their wealth in approved socialist >style. Rewards will be posted for informing on a neighbor who is (may >be) a hoarder (5% of the take?). Related to this... have you folks seen this thread going around some of the y2k preparedness groups? "..... its illegal to store more than 30 days of food ?....." These folks are refering to some info on a web page related to executive orders. http://www.millennium-ark.net/News_Files/INFO_Files/EOs.html This one I think needs some FUD busting...and no one does that better than you guys! -- William J. Hartwell (602)987-8436 Queencreek, Az. billh(a)ibag.com billh(a)interdem.com billh(a)hartwell.net

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