December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: manners and piracy
by Petro 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 7:59 PM -0500 11/19/98, Bernardo B. Terrado wrote: >> how could someone giving you a "copy of statgraphics" not be >> considered priracy? or were you looking for a donation. if so, you >> should have been much more explicit about what you wanted. >> > Well anyway thank you for your reply. >> > What I'm trying to point out is this >> > it is OK with me if you say "Take your piracy requests elsewhere" >> > it is not OK with me if you say " ...fuck yourself" >> what we're trying to point out is this >> it is not OK with us if you send warez requests to the list. >It is the duty of all to say "Hey! respect intellectual property!" >I too am against piracy, now I know that that software i.e statgraphics >is not a shareware. Go fuck yourself. I have no responsibility to do anything YOU regard as a duty. -- "To sum up: The entire structure of antitrust statutes in this country is a jumble of economic irrationality and ignorance. It is a product: (a) of a gross misinterpretation of history, and (b) of rather naïve, and certainly unrealistic, economic theories." Alan Greenspan, "Anti-trust" http://www.ecosystems.net/mgering/antitrust.html Petro::E-Commerce Adminstrator::Playboy Ent. Inc.::petro@playboy.com

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New postage stamp
by HyperReal-Anon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I hear they are coming out with a new "Monica Lewinsky" postage stamp. Initially, it will cost $.35. However, if you lick it, it will be considerably more expensive.

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RE: Goldbach's Conjecture (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: "Blake Buzzini" <bab282(a)psu.edu> > Subject: RE: Goldbach's Conjecture (fwd) > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:37:09 -0500 > >From _Elementary Theory of Numbers_ by William J. LeVeque, pg. 6: > > "It was conjectured by Charles Goldbach in 1742 that every even integer > larger than 4 is the sum of two odd primes. (All primes except 2 are odd, > of course, since evenness means divisibility by two.)" Ok, so this one says it was Goldbach himself and in particular states two odd primes completely eliminating 4 from the get go ... > >From _Excursions in Number Theory_ by C. Stanley Ogilvy and John T. > Anderson, pg. 82: > > "Goldbach's conjecture. Is every even number expressible as the sum of two > primes?" This one is the second version... > >From _Goldbach's Conjecture_ by Eric W. Weisstein > (http://www.astro.virginia.edu/~eww6n/math/GoldbachConjecture.html) > > "Goldbach's original conjecture, written in a 1742 letter to Euler, states > that every Integer >5 is the Sum of three Primes. As re-expressed by Euler, > an equivalent of this Conjecture (called the ``strong'' Goldbach conjecture) > asserts that all Positive Even Integers >= 4 can be expressed as the Sum of > two Primes." And finaly a third completely different slant. They at least get Fermats contribution right. > Am I misreading somewhere? Well I'd say that all three of your references tended to contradict each other. Which one do you want to stand on? This is my quote: > No, that was Fermat, Goldbach just says every even number greater than two > can be represented as a sum of primes. Basicaly Fermat says that if we have > n primes we can reduce them to 2 primes only, in all cases. Which happens to > exclude using equilateral triangles as a test bed since you can't tile a > equilateral with only two other equilaterals, you could use rectangles > though. So basicaly from a geometric perspective Fermat says that given a > rectangle of even area it is possible to divide it with a bisector into two > rectangles of prime area. > > It's interesting that Fermat doesn't mention that the only prime that can > use two as a factor is 4. And you can't factor 2 at all since we eliminate > 1 as a potential candidate (another issue of symmetry breaking simply so we > don't have to write '....works for every prime but 1' on all our theorems). I'll stand by this statement. ____________________________________________________________________ Lawyers ask the wrong questions when they don't want the right answers. Scully (X-Files) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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packet socket forwarder
by lcs Mixmaster Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone have a simple packet forwarder to run on a unix system? I want to set up a daemon on an account to just redirect traffic from a particular port to another host for some basic anonymity, but I don't have experience doing socket coding, nor a book.

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NYM
by Judd Howie 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Could anyone please suggest some reliable and online nym servers besides nym.alias.net? Preferably free. TIA.

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More Goldbach's Conjecture
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Well there are two more definitions, from the same book [1], that are not equivalent: pp. 335 For all natural numbers x, if x is even, non-zero, and not 2, then there exist prime numbers y and z such that x is the sum of y and z. pp. 673 ...every even number, n>6 (it at least takes care of my question about 4), is the sum of two odd primes. ____________________________________________________________________ Lawyers ask the wrong questions when they don't want the right answers. Scully (X-Files) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- -------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] VNR Concise Encyclopedia of Mathematics

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January Bay Area meeting date.
by Trei, Peter 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The 1999 RSA Data Security Conference will be held in San Jose, Sunday January 17th thru Thursday, January 21. It will bring a lot of out-of-town members of these mailing lists into the Bay Area. Last year, the date of the January Cypherpunks Physical Meeting was shifted so that conference attendees who stayed over the weekend could turn up. Several did, and I gave a repeat performance of my conference presentation. I'd like to suggest shifting the date again. The physical meetings seem to be normally held second Saturdays, which suggests a Jan 9 date. If it could be moved up to the 16th, people could arrive on Friday (or early Saturday) and attend the cpunk meeting. Many conference attendees will be staying over that Saturday night to take advantage of the cheaper airfares. Peter Trei

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Re: Goldbach's Conjecture (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:27:39 +0100 > From: Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen(a)stud.uni-muenchen.de> > Subject: Re: Goldbach's Conjecture (fwd) > Jim Choate wrote: > > > What started this whole enquiry for me was the realization that the > > multiplication identity axiom is related to the definition of a prime. Then > > add on top of that the reason we exclude 1 is so we don't have to write > > '...except for the prime 1' on the end of lots of number theory (re Richard > > Feynman's comment during the Challenger Investigation). It was the > > realization that if we go ahead and include 1 so the axioms are in line with > > each other (and use our cut&paste feature for the '...1...') then perhaps it > > would provide a more consistent base and just maybe some of the extant > > problems in number theory might become solvable in other ways. My original > If you 'define' 1 to be 'prime', you are 'defining' Goldbach's > conjecture 'away'! Duh. I'll give you a hint, more than that single problem goes away. ____________________________________________________________________ Lawyers ask the wrong questions when they don't want the right answers. Scully (X-Files) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE:
by Harvey Rook (Exchange) 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Oh my God! I'm so wrong! I feel so ashamed. Thank you for pointing this out and correcting me. ob cipher. I have working implementations of RC-4 and RC-6 with C++ source. Drop me a line if you'd like a copy. Harv hrook(a)microsoft.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Anonymous [mailto:nobody@replay.com] > Sent: Friday, November 20, 1998 12:41 AM > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: > > > Moahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah > u STOOPID dickheads and fuckwads supporting > CUNTS like micro$oft or even working there. > FUCK YOU lousy cockroaches. I, the great > tormentor and terminator will stamp you > out and exterminate you like the pests you > are. > HaHaHaHaHaHa mothafuckaz. > You will all die and give way to a better > world, better people and better systems. > Long live Unix, Mac, Amiga and TERROR. >

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