December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Goldbach's Conjecture - a question about prime sums of odd numbers...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, I have a question related to Goldbach's Conjecture: All even numbers greater than two can be represented as the sum of primes. Is there any work on whether odd numbers can always be represented as the sum of primes? This of course implies that the number of prime members must be odd and must exclude 1 (unless you can have more than a single instance of a given prime). Has this been examined? I'm assuming, since I can't find it explicitly stated anywhere, that Goldbachs Conjecture allows those prime factors to occur in multiple instances. I've pawed through my number theory books and can't find anything relating to this as regards odd numbers. ____________________________________________________________________ Lawyers ask the wrong questions when they don't want the right answers. Scully (X-Files) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: FC: More on Network Associates and its crypto-politics
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Declan McCullagh writes: >TIS supports export controls on encryption products. My article: > http://www.well.com/user/declan/pubs/cwd.shadow.cryptocrats.0298.txt Two problems here. First, you are using the present tense in saying that TIS "supports" export controls, but your article is from nine months ago. There have been many changes since then, including loosening of the crypto export rules, the acquisition of TIS by Network Associates, and a recent statement that TIS has backed off from its leadership role in advocating key recovery. What is TIS's current policy? It certainly sounds like it is changing. You should find out before claiming to know what it is. Second, even in the context of last February, what you wrote is: > Some of the firms selected also endorse restrictions. Trusted Information > Systems recently circulated a policy paper calling for "sensible" > legislation to "make the export of 56-bit current interim DES controls > permanent and permit the export of stronger encryption when it is combined > with a key recovery system." (Which, coincidentally, TIS is happy to sell > you...) At the time, this would have represented a LIBERALIZATION of export laws. 56 bit exports were only allowed in the context of a promise to add key recovery even for 56 bit keys. The statement you have quoted calls for allowing 56 bit key export permanently, and only requiring key recovery for stronger encryption. True, it was not a call for full elimination of restrictions, but it was a step in the right direction. You are falling into the tiresome pattern of extremists who claim that moderates are lackeys for the other side. It's like an anti-abortion fanatic who says that those who oppose murdering abortion doctors are baby killers. Try reporting the facts instead of altering them to fit your biased views.

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FC: More on Network Associates and its crypto-politics
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text X-Sender: declan(a)mail.well.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:44:01 -0500 To: politech(a)vorlon.mit.edu From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> Subject: FC: More on Network Associates and its crypto-politics Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-politech(a)vorlon.mit.edu Reply-To: declan(a)well.com X-Loop: politech(a)vorlon.mit.edu X-URL: Politech is at http://www.well.com/~declan/politech/ Cabe Franklin <cabe.franklin(a)cbpr.com> forwards this statement from Wes Wasson, director of marketing for Network Associates' security division: >"NAI officially withdrew from the Key Recovery Alliance in late 1997. In May >of 1998, NAI acquired Trusted Information Systems, which had been an active >member of the KRA. NAI subsequently reliquished the leadership role TIS had >taken in the organization. NAI Labs' TIS Advanced Research Division continues >to monitor the KRA's activities from a technical perspective, but Network >Associates in no way advocates mandatory key recovery." >- Cabe Franklin (NAI PR) >415-975-2223 TIS supports export controls on encryption products. My article: http://www.well.com/user/declan/pubs/cwd.shadow.cryptocrats.0298.txt -Declan -------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- the moderated mailing list of politics and technology To subscribe: send a message to majordomo(a)vorlon.mit.edu with this text: subscribe politech More information is at http://www.well.com/~declan/politech/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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What's up with algebra.com?
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, Anyone heard what the status of algebra.com is? I've removed them from the SSZ distribution list temporarily, when they come back I'll re-add the site. ____________________________________________________________________ Lawyers ask the wrong questions when they don't want the right answers. Scully (X-Files) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Crypto Coops/Internships (Other Than NSA)??
by Blake Buzzini 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone know of any cryptology-related coop/internship programs other than the one offered by the NSA? Blake Buzzini, PSU

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Test (algebra.com is back)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Test (algebra.com) is back...

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Crypto Coops/Internships (Other Than NSA)??
by Blake Buzzini 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone know of any cryptology-related coop/internship programs other than the one offered by the NSA? Blake Buzzini, PSU

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A tad more on Goldbach's Conjecture....
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, I figure I'll share the thought I'm trailing.... Given Goldbach's Conjecture as true then it has a geometric interpretation. Given a triangle of even area greater than two it can be tiled with a set of triangles, with areas given by primes, exactly. I'm using equilaterals as a test case since they're easy to deal with geometricaly. So, if one can show that this is true then Goldbach's follows. ____________________________________________________________________ Lawyers ask the wrong questions when they don't want the right answers. Scully (X-Files) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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17 Dec '03

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by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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