December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

VSNL Censors Indian Internet Sites. (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 04:20:43 +0000 > From: Vipul Ved Prakash <mail(a)vipul.net> > Subject: VSNL Censors Indian Internet Sites. > ( My 19th nov. post to cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net never showed up on > the list, so I reposting. Thanks. ) > > > 17 November, 1998 > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > Contact: Vipul Ved Prakash, 2233328. > > > VSNL Censors Indian Internet Sites The SSZ list got it. I even forwarded it to a friend who is working on an Indian telco/telcom project. ____________________________________________________________________ Lawyers ask the wrong questions when they don't want the right answers. Scully (X-Files) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Goldbach's Conjecture
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

If we go with the flow and exclude 1 (so we don't have to rewrite all our theorems) and assume that all even numbers greater than 2 can be represented as a sum of two prime factors we have a problem... How does one sum 4? 2 + 2? We certainly can't use 3 + 1. If we allow repetition *and* the number 2 as a prime then all even numbers can be written as a string of 2's summed appropriately. ____________________________________________________________________ Lawyers ask the wrong questions when they don't want the right answers. Scully (X-Files) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Digital cockroaches, 5 IP's per body by 2000 [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > X-within-URL: http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9811/19/cockroach.cdx.idg/ > (IDG) -- LAS VEGAS - People think they're wired now, but they haven't > seen anything yet. Just wait until the world is populated with silicon > cockroaches - wireless devices that can communicate with each other > and the Internet, said John Sidgmore, CEO of MCI WorldCom, in his > keynote at Comdex/Fall '98. [text deleted] > "Everyone will have an average of five IP objects on their body by > 2000," he predicted. Eventually there will even be digital eye glasses > with voice control that would offer all sorts of information to the > wearer. "Sony is working on the technology, so it'll happen. It'll > cost $20." MORE COMDEX NEWS [INLINE] IDG.net home page IDG.net's [text deleted] > "Industry explosions like this are extremely, exceedingly rare," > Sidgmore said. "I think 40, 50 years from today people will look back > and say this was the Golden Age of Communications." [text deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ Lawyers ask the wrong questions when they don't want the right answers. Scully (X-Files) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: manners and piracy
by Bernardo B. Terrado 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> how could someone giving you a "copy of statgraphics" not be > considered priracy? or were you looking for a donation. if so, you > should have been much more explicit about what you wanted. > > > Well anyway thank you for your reply. > > What I'm trying to point out is this > > it is OK with me if you say "Take your piracy requests elsewhere" > > it is not OK with me if you say " ...fuck yourself" > > what we're trying to point out is this > it is not OK with us if you send warez requests to the list. It is the duty of all to say "Hey! respect intellectual property!" I too am against piracy, now I know that that software i.e statgraphics is not a shareware. Thank you. Exactly my point it is OK if you say "it is not OK with us if you send warez requests to the list." it is not OK if you say ".... fuck yourself"

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by par04783＠yahoo.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Search and Seizure abuse...
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

(Apparently Bob H., juding from the cc: list, forwarded my message to Jean-Francois. I am responding to Jean-Francois' comments, but also am copying the Cypherpunks list.) At 5:15 PM -0800 11/19/98, Jean-Francois Avon wrote: >On Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:40:47 -0500, Robert Hettinga wrote: > >>:-). >> >>Why don't you just subscribe to cypherpunks and get it over with? >> >>Cheers, >>Bob > >Because of practical time constraints. I am quite active on the firearms >front and if I start getting CPunks stuff, I'll take forever, >notwithstanding what TM said on the topic in 1995 about how little time it >actually take to screen and process the list volume. Yeah, and your "news" items on Canadian gun laws, along with a dozen other people bombarding the CP list with "urgent news," are adding to the clutter. And to the lack of serious discussion. Too many lists, especially, I am sad to say, uncensored lists, are being bombarded by news items. The fact is, there are far, far better ways to get all the news one wants. I refer to Yahoo, Excite, Lycos, Wired, Dejanews, and at least a dozen other such general sites. Not to mention various and sundry sites for news magazines and networks. Some people, even some people actually subscribed to the CP list, routinely bounce a dozen news messages at a time to the CP list. One thing I've taken to doing is to use the "Option-Click" command in Eudora to group _all_ of the messages from one author together and highlight them...then I delete them all at one time. (So, Detweiler, now you know why I may not be responding to your non-news articles...I've been forced to delete the dozens of "vznuri" articles from "Ignition point" and other such news spammers.) >>Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:02:23 -0800 >>To: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net >>From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> > >>At 12:46 PM -0800 11/19/98, Jean-Francois Avon wrote: >>> >>>NOTE: I AM NOT ON CYPHERPUNKS. PLEASE Cc ME DIRECTLY. >>> >> >>Sorry, I won't do this. >> >>Anyone who wants to start a discussion on a mailing list SHOULD BE ON THAT >>MAILING LIST! > >But, Tim, I have no intention on starting a discussion, I just spam CPunks >with information pertaining to freedom and, to some extent, ITAR. Consider >me as a news service... :-) Your stuff is often days behind what we've already seen, notwithstanding the fact that this list is not a news dump site. (It's especially ironic when one of the news spammers forwards an article written by Declan McCullagh. Declan writes it, the Web sites carry it, "ignition point" newsspams it to subscribers, then some subscriber to "ignition point" who isn't bothering to read the list forwards it to the CP list. Sometimes with a clueless "Hey, thought you guys might be interested in this.") >I refrain to post personnal opinions and simply forward topics that are >freedom-related. Since crypto and firearms are very close cousins indeed, I >think that it might be on topic. You will note that whenever I post on the >CFD, I use a crypto-flavored *.sig file. Come on guys, stop nitpicking! >And among all of CPunks, especially you, Tim May! If you can't do your own analysis, you have no business blindly spamming lists you are not even subscribed to. --Tim May Common Y2K line: "I'm not preparing, but I know where _you_ live." ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments.

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Re: manners and piracy
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 4:59 PM -0800 11/19/98, Bernardo B. Terrado wrote: > >It is the duty of all to say "Hey! respect intellectual property!" If you send me a check for $350 I will agree to issue the statement "Hey! respect intellectual property!" But it is by no means a duty of anyone to make any kind of political statement. Final hint: Cypherpunks don't respond well to "argument ad shame on 'em." That is, to arguments along the lines of "It is the duty of all to protect X." Or to condemn Y. Or to support Z. --Tim May Common Y2K line: "I'm not preparing, but I know where _you_ live." ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments.

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The South African Internet Industry
by Vortexia 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, the following is the situation as it stands with the development of internet in south africa, and how things are being monopolised by 2 groups, fighting for power, at the cost of the average internet user. The 2 current groups fighting at the moment for power are the ISPA (the internet service providers association) and the telecomms company, guaranteed a monopoly on all telecomms in this country until 2003. The fight to date has gone as far as telkom trying to claim that the internet falls under their telecomms monopoly law and therefore they get a monopoly on it in this country. This was rejected by SATRA (South African Telecomms Regulations Authority) but the internet was still placed as a telecomms service, subject to the telecomms acts. Up until this time, the fights between the ISPA and Telkom have not as yet had much bearing on the average internet user in this country, however suddenly the hacking scene in south africa emerged, and 3 months ago some kiddie hackers decided to fdisk a bunch of servers. Under our laws nothing could be done to them, but 3 months later they break into Telkom, they do no damage, just browse around the system, telkom has them arrested etc. Under our legal system however, their computers were seized, but no one was actually allowed to view the contents of the harddrives etc on the machines. Including the fact that even if they were allowed to look on those harddrives, the data on those harddrives was encrypted according to the 2 hackers. So to sum up the situation in this country: Our backbone infrastructure of our internet (the telephone lines and digital lines etc) are being monopolised by one company that is state controlled (Telkom) The hacking scene is rising into the picture fast, and no one is ready to deal with it yet in the industry The laws of this country protect no one from anything on the internet Suddenly though there is a fight to create new laws in this country. The law currently says the following A.) You cannot be prosecuted for damaging or erasing data on a machine that is not yours, due to the fact that all property that falls under the laws which refer to damaged property, has to be corporeal, computer data is not considered as such. B.) You cannot be prosecuted for breaking and entering if you penetrate a computer as breaking and entering under the current law has to refer to a physical structure that you break into. C.) You cannot be prosecuted for violations of copyright if you pirate international software, and 99% of software in south africa is imported from outside, this is due to the copyright act of 1978 stating the following: A Computer program is defined as "a set of instructions fixed or stored in any manner and which, when used directly or indirectly in a computer, directs its operation to bring about a result" A computer program will be subject to copyright if it is original and if the author is a South African citizen or domiciled or resident in the Republic, or if it is first published or mad in the Republic. Copyright initially vests in the author of a work but it may be transferred to third parties. With the above as our current law, there is a move to change various parts of what is currently law. Everything they are changing it to seems to be based on the computer laws in the UK, and certain things from singapore. They are also looking to form legislation that may or may not allow for attempted decryption of logs on a harddrive, and the entry of decrypted logs into evidence, the restriction of encryption in this country, the allowance for semi-tangible evidence etc etc etc. My question is, does anyone know where I can find information regarding the UK laws as regards cyber crime, how the courts handle electronic logs, how the courts handle encryption in the UK, and if anyone has any comments on the above I would love to hear them. Cheers Andrew Alston (System Administrator)

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RE: Goldbach's Conjecture (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: "Blake Buzzini" <bab282(a)psu.edu> > Subject: RE: Goldbach's Conjecture > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 22:17:54 -0500 > I could be wrong, but I thought Goldbach's conjecture was that every even > number could be expressed as the sum of *two* primes. This doesn't prohibit No, that was Fermat, Goldbach just says every even number greater than two can be represented as a sum of primes. Basicaly Fermat says that if we have n primes we can reduce them to 2 primes only, in all cases. Which happens to exclude using equilateral triangles as a test bed since you can't tile a equilateral with only two other equilaterals, you could use rectangles though. So basicaly from a geometric perspective Fermat says that given a rectangle of even area it is possible to divide it with a bisector into two rectangles of prime area. It's interesting that Fermat doesn't mention that the only prime that can use two as a factor is 4. And you can't factor 2 at all since we eliminate 1 as a potential candidate (another issue of symmetry breaking simply so we don't have to write '....works for every prime but 1' on all our theorems). > repetition. Therefore, under Goldbach's conjecture: > > 4 -> 2 + 2 > 6 -> 3 + 3 but NOT 2 + 2 + 2 > 8 -> 5 + 3 but NOT 2 + 2 + 2 The real issue for me is the interaction of primes (ie n * 1 = n) and the identity theorem (ie n * 1 = n). They're opposite sides of the same coin. It doesn't really matter now since it doesn't look like I'm going to get a copy of EURISKO in this lifetime to play with. ____________________________________________________________________ Lawyers ask the wrong questions when they don't want the right answers. Scully (X-Files) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Catastrophic Terrorism
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ex-CIA head John Deutch and two NatSecs write in November Foreign Affairs on "Catastrophic Terrorism: Tackling the New Danger:" http://jya.com/ct-tnd.htm (36K) They propose three new orgs to prevent and respond to terrorist use of WMD on a large scale: 1. National Terrorism Intelligence Center (Mil/Intel/LEA) 2. National Information Assurance Institute (Gov/Corp/Tank) 3. Catastrophic Terrorism Response Offices (Intel/Plan/Train/Task/Direct) Paralleling Senator Kyl and others, the proposals are based on the increased domestic use of the military while proclaiming civil liberties will be protected. And though there is considerable detail about how the military, intelligence agencies and law enforcement will work together - US and foreign - and the vast purchases of sevices and equipment that will be needed, there's next to nothing about how civil liberties will be protected. Reference is made to America's marshalling its patriotism and technology to win the Cold War, and the wondrous inventions developed to do that. Again, though, no mention is made of the price of military industrialism, which is to be expected of our finest catastrophe-obessessed minds unable to imagine a world without endless national security threats to grow their pork.

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