December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by 2001files＠usa.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Why is the world not perfect?
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anonymous wrote: > Why, if the ignition-controllers of cars are > CPUs, aren't cars theftproof without a > crypto-token? The bastards (a term which collectively includes insurance companies, police, car manufacturers and a host of others) make vast amounts of money on the basis that your car is stolen regularly. Scheduled Disasters are good for business. Whoever it was who had the idea for a Y2K bug is currently minting it.

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RE: propose: `cypherpunks license' (Re: Wanted: Twofish source code)
by Brown, R Ken 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

My computer alleges that Derek Atkins[SMTP:warlord@MIT.EDU] wrote: > The big issue I see with GPL and Crypto software is that with the > GPL you cannot add any redistribution restrictions. The problem > is that due to the United States export rules, I cannot export > Crypto software, which means I must legally put a restriction on > any Crypto code I write. But, this is a "further restriction" as far > as the GPL is concerned. This, in turn, means I cannot use the > GPL for Crypto software. Surely the way round this is to take the "batteries not included" route? Just use GPLed libraries or standalone modules. Or write your code in such a way that some modules are GPLed and some aren't. Sell your modules & tell people that they will need to get the GPL stuff through "normal channels". Of course, once outside the USA you are safe. Nobody *outside* the US cares much about your export restrictions or absurd ideas about patenting software anyway - although in many European countries, and certainly in UK, we take copyright a lot *more* seriously than you. Copyright is widely seen as a right, something that naturally belongs to the author or artist. In French law they even talk about right of "paternity" in a text (part of "Droit Moral") even if you assign copyright to another person you are still allowed to veto changes in it, your right is seen as inalienable, like the rights you have to your own person - copyright is part of personality, not property. (This has been partly imported into English law as a a right to be identified as the author, which has to be asserted, which you now nearly always do). In France but not in England they also recognise the right to withdraw a work (although for some reason Stanley Kubrick seems to have been able to withdraw the Clockwork Orange film in England, I don't understand how) and the right of access to a work (an artist is allowed access to a painting which has been sold to someone else). These things are seen as part of personality. Just as in the US the law won't allow you to sell yourself permanently to someone else (i.e. no slavery, even voluntary slavery) but only rent yourself out (employment) so in most of Europe you can't really "sell" copyright, only rent it out. But patents are to some extent seen as government interference, as licensed monopoly. They tend to be unpopular with everyone (except lawyers, inventors and pharmecutical companies of course). I suspect there are a lot of people who would have moral problems with breaking someone else's software copyright but wouldn't give a dam about breaking a software patent. An algorithm is an idea, and how can anyone own an idea? (I'm talking morals here, not law - intersecting universes of discourse, but not identical ones :-) Ken Brown (and not his employers who respect patents greatly and would sack me if I broke them at work. After all they own an awful lot of them...)

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17 Dec '03

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I thought of an initialy regulated industry!...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, In regards the discussion about regulation and industry. I can think of only one industry that was regulated before the very first company opened their doors for business....nuclear power plants. Personaly, 3 Mile Island in a un-regulated industry scares the hell out of me...and I support nuclear power. Look at the fiasco of Chernobyl in a control market. I'd like to hear from any free market mavens who might want to use the nuclear industry as an example of how things could be so much better with no regulation regarding construction, operation, or waste disposal. "Hey Sammy, just through those spent pellets in with the trash, those stupid trash people don't know nothing...." ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: GPL & commercial software, the critical distinction (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Matthew James Gering <mgering(a)ecosystems.net> > Subject: RE: GPL & commercial software, the critical distinction (fwd) > Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:49:10 -0700 > > No Netscape on NT or 95/98 is no where near as stable as > > on a Linux or Solaris box (the two that I use most). > > Correct me if I am wrong or if this has changed since they went > open-source, but AFAIK Mozilla's Windows and Unix codebases were > entirely independent and separately developed, so I'm not sure what > conclusions you can draw from that. I'd say the obvious one, the Unix code tree is more stable than the MS tree. > Again, let's leave the OS wars off this list. I've had NT machines up > for several months and down only for patches and upgrades. As I have, but at nowhere near the load level that Unixes can support. To get even near-mark performance requires larger hard drives, faster processors, and way more ram (2x or more in many cases). ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: GPL & commercial software, the critical distinction (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Matthew James Gering <mgering(a)ecosystems.net> > Subject: RE: GPL & commercial software, the critical distinction (fwd) > Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:30:14 -0700 > And you would be stupid to expose yourself to full liability. No, being a single proprietorship isn't stupid. It may not be something you like but it isn't stupid. I will agree that depending on the size and type of business it isn't always the best way, but then being a multi-national incorporation isn't the best way to do local contract work for SOHO's (for example) either. > Regulation includes much more than licensing and registration. Try > hiring a couple employees, As long as it's only two I don't have to worry about federal regulations and such, they only kick in when I hire 3 or more. > paying freelance individuals, Hand them their 1099's and they're out the door. I just pay them whatever I agreed (gross before taxes) and the 1099 is *their* promise to deal with the taxes. > setup office space, Sign a lease and wallah. > get yourself a company car All I need for that is a DBA, can even open bank accounts and get credit cards in the company name with nothing but a DL and that DBA. > and do your fed income taxes. As a single proprietorship I do my taxes the same old way I always did them except I must include the SE documents which only add a few pages. If I do the contract work via 1099's (which says that the contractor is responsbile for the taxes on that income) all I have to show is the gross amount paid to that contract person. > If they enforced every word of every code strongly and > literally it would be nearly impossible to conduct business. No, it wouldn't. For example I do contract work for small office - home office companies (generaly 10 or less employees total). I write software, install software, train, repair hardware, do upgrades, etc. and there are literaly NO regulations at any level on those activities outside those imposed by 1099's for sub-contractors (who work their own hours and must provide their own tools) and the contract I and the customer agree to. If I buy something for a customer I pass the receipt along to them and get reimbursed for my time (on a seperate receipt) and the exact amount for the items purchased (I am acting as their agent and not a reseller) so I don't even need a tax number technicaly (since I don't pay state sales tax on labor costs and am not selling them the items purchased). All I need is a $15 DBA and a bunch of blank 1099's. Why do cities and states require licenses on such things as air conditioning or auto mechanics? Because for years there were no licenses required and anybody could do it. After enough decades of scam artists, poorly run business who cost customers money because they went out of business without doing the work, or they did sub-standard (as defined by the practitioners of that activity) work. I challenge you to find an example where a state or federal regulation was imposed before the industry matured. > Bullshit, monopolies exist because of the regulation. No, monopolies exist because people are greedy and want to own everything. History is full of examples where industries were unregulated (ever read Upton Sinclair?) and abused the employees and the market and as a result regulation was imposed. It's interesting that free-market mavens never seem to mention that the vast majority of monopoly examples occured *before* industry regulation was imposed. Even in the Microsoft case, it's only now that they've grown so big and become so porous about information that the government has stepped in and begun asking "has the industry matured to the point where continued non-regulation is a detriment because it allows hording of industry resources?" Even if we were to de-regulate the clothing industry for example it is highly unlikely that child labor and sweat shops would become less prevalent. Of course I'd like to see your evidence to the contrary. "Those who don't understand history are doomed to repeat it" Santyana > Bullshit again, there is a *big* difference between a regulated market > (mixed capitalist/socialist economy) and a command economy. So because > we don't live in Soviet Russia we should all bend over and take it? A regulated market is something that has regulation imposed from the outside (ie besides the supplier and consumer). There are certainly different kinds of regulated economies just like there are different kinds of mammals. But to say that Zebra's aren't mammals because they don't look like an Aardvark is a dis-serivice. You, and every other free-market maven, have yet to demonstrate with historical example that free-market works. > Coercive power takes form via regulation. Without it a bad monopoly is a > short-lived one. Tell that to the rail-roads of the mid to late 1800's, the meat packing industry of the late 1800's and early 1900's. The sweat houses of the garment industry since the early 1800's, etc. No sir, history doesn't support your proposition at all. > Liability, liability, liability. Regulation often promotes bad practice > as businesses comply with minimum regulation and nothing more instead of > thinking for themselves. What is worse is government often shields > companies from liability. See above examples. Hell, take a look at the wet pet food market now for a perfect example of why non-regulation is a bad thing and why liability and other such buzz words don't work in the real world. And you were wondering why your little toodles was loosing her hair, was always excited and aggitated and has the health of a pet 3-4 years older than the chronological age... Bottem line, in a free market (no regulation other than consumer and supplier) there are no controlling mechanisms and no recourse for the consumer because they have nothing to demonstrate even an implied warranty or liability of manufacturer (read software licenses to see how this can be side stepped easily, hint: imagine a software license on the side of a can of beans.). ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. 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MAJOR STOCK ALERT!! A 3 MILLION GOLD RESOURCE CONFIRMED!!
by bubba219＠mailexcite.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

GOLD RIDGE INVESTMENT CORP. ANNOUNCES: GOLD MARKET RECOVERY GAINING STRENGTH - INVESTORS SHIFTING ATTENTION TO UNDERVALUED COMPANIES WITH WORLD-CLASS GOLD DEPOSITS EMGOLD MINING'S 100%-OWNED IDAHO-MARYLAND PROJECT HOSTS 2.97 MILLION OUNCE RESOURCE - TO BE DEVELOPED @ 140,000 oz/yr @ US$215 / oz Au EMGOLD MINING CORPORATION ("EMR" - VSE) 1610 - 777 Dunsmuir Street, P. O. Box 10435 Vancouver, BC V7Y 1K4 Canada Phone: (604) 687 - 4622 Fax: (604) 687 - 4212 Toll-Free: (888) 267 - 1400 website: http://www.emgold.com Introduction EMGOLD MINING CORP. has made significant progress in bringing the historic Idaho-Maryland gold mine to a production decision. Recent engineering studies indicate that less than half of the known gold has been extracted from the deposit, and that a 3,000,000 ounce resource remains to be mined. History & Past Production The Idaho-Maryland gold mine was discovered in 1851, and was in nearly-continuous production from 1862 through 1956. Total recorded production from the mine was 2,383,000 ounces of gold from 5,546,000 tons of ore (0.43 oz/ton recovered grade). When the mine closed in 1956 due to escalating costs and the fixed price of gold of US$35/oz, mining operations were underway on 25 different faces on 6 different levels. Large Mineralized System Defined - Extensive Infrastructure In Place The Idaho-Maryland vein system is 9,000 feet long, up to 3,000 feet wide, and has been partially-mined from surface to the 2000 foot level. Access to the mine's 15 working levels is provided by the three-compartment, 3,460-foot deep New Brunswick Shaft. Over 70 miles of underground tunnels and workings provide access to much of the property. A Three Million Ounce Gold Resource Has Been Defined. A 1992 study by James Askew and Associates Inc. estimated that the remaining gold resources and potential mineralization between the 2000 and 3280 levels of the Idaho-Maryland mine are 9,117,500 ST @ 0.326 oz Au/ST (containing 2,968,400 oz Au). This resource estimate excludes the potential for large, bulk tonnage targets identified by EMGOLD in 1997. Upside Potential: 3,000,000+ oz Au Located within the wedge-shaped confines of three bounding faults, a 3-D geologic model developed for the Idaho-Maryland mine demonstrates the potential for continuity of the existing vein system to a vertical depth of 5,000 feet (the Idaho-Maryland mine is essentially unexplored below a depth of 3,280 feet). What is not widely known is that the adjoining Empire mine produced six million ounces of gold to a depth of 5,200 feet! This fact, combined with the knowledge that all mineralized structures developed on the lowest levels of the Idaho-Maryland mine remain open at depth, supports EMGOLD's belief that considerably more ore may exist at depth. Development Program (1998 - 1999) EMGOLD's plans for reviving the Idaho-Maryland mine are to first de-water the mine, and then go underground to do further exploration to prove up the total resource potential. EMGOLD has applied for and been granted all permits necessary for re-opening the New Brunswick shaft, de-watering the mine and completing a bankable feasibility. Potential Gold Production of at Least 140,000 oz / yr @ US$215 / oz Au EMGOLD plans to resume operations at the Idaho-Maryland mine at an initial mining rate of 1,500 ST ore / day, which would produce approximately 140,000 ounces of gold per year. With the addition of a second shaft, it may be possible to increase production to 5,000 ST/day - at this production level, the Idaho-Maryland mine would produce over 200,000 ounces of gold per year (on par with other major mines). Recent studies indicate that the Idaho-Maryland mine could be profitably developed and operated at a long-term gold price of US$300/oz based on an estimated operating cost (excluding capital and royalties) of US$215 per ounce. Current Market Conditions The current gold rally is gaining strength with each passing day! In the past month, bullion prices have risen nearly 10%. Yesterday, the Philadelphia XAU gold and silver index closed at 74.69, up 53% from its record low of 48.67 set in late August. Mining stocks have regained favor with major Wall Street firms: Merrill Lynch has initiated coverage of Placer Dome, Barrick, TVX and Kinross, while Bear Stearns has upgraded the recommendations of Asarco, Cyprus Amax and Phelps Dodge. To a large extent, the market rebound has largely benefited the major mining companies, whose share prices are now fully-valued (or even over-valued) at current gold prices. However, we believe that, as the current rally continues, investors will increasingly seek out undervalued junior exploration and development companies with multi-million ounce gold deposits. Opportunity for Investors Trading at a tremendous discount to its fair market value, EMGOLD offers investors a low-risk investment opportunity in the current market environment, and a chance to accumulate a significant position in a stock that can be expected to rally strongly as gold prices move above US$300 / oz. With just 11.5 million shares outstanding (14 million fully-diluted) and a current share price of Cdn$0.28, the equity markets are valuing the Idaho-Maryland gold mine at just Cdn$1.06 per ounce of gold (Cdn$1.35 / oz Au on a fully-diluted basis). EMGOLD's Idaho-Maryland mine offers one of the best advanced exploration / developmental prospects available in North America. With inferred resources of almost three million ounces, nearly one hundred years of operating history, an existing 3,400-foot, three-compartment shaft and 70+ miles of underground workings, EMGOLD has 100% control of a world-class gold project with the vast majority of the expensive infrastructure in place and ready to go. For more information, please contact Andrew Hunter toll-free at 1 - 888 - 267 - 1400 Disclaimer: The information contained herein has been compiled or derived from sources believed reliable and contains information and opinions which are accurate and complete. However, Gold Ridge makes no representation or warranty, express or implied, in respect thereof, takes no responsibility for any errors and omissions which may be contained herein and accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss arising from any use or reliance upon this report or its contents. The information provided is for information purposes only and should not be construed as, and shall not form part of an offer or solicitation to but or sell any securities. Emgold Mining has paid Gold Ridge a fee of US$20,000.00 for preparing and disseminating this information. -------------------- <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HEAD> <META content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content='"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=GENERATOR> </HEAD> <DIV> <DIV>GOLD RIDGE INVESTMENT CORP. ANNOUNCES: GOLD MARKET RECOVERY GAINING STRENGTH - INVESTORS SHIFTING ATTENTION TO UNDERVALUED COMPANIES WITH WORLD-CLASS GOLD DEPOSITS EMGOLD MINING'S 100%-OWNED IDAHO-MARYLAND PROJECT HOSTS 2.97 MILLION OUNCE RESOURCE - TO BE DEVELOPED @ 140,000 oz/yr @ US$215 / oz Au EMGOLD MINING CORPORATION ("EMR" - VSE) 1610 - 777 Dunsmuir Street, P. O. Box 10435 Vancouver, BC  V7Y 1K4  Canada Phone: (604) 687 - 4622    Fax: (604) 687 - 4212 Toll-Free:  (888) 267 - 1400 website:  http://www.emgold.com Introduction</DIV> <DIV> EMGOLD MINING CORP. has made significant progress in bringing the historic Idaho-Maryland gold mine to a production decision.  Recent engineering studies indicate that less than half of the known gold has been extracted from the deposit, and that a 3,000,000 ounce resource remains to be mined. History & Past Production</DIV> <DIV> The Idaho-Maryland gold mine was discovered in 1851, and was in nearly-continuous production from 1862 through 1956.  Total recorded production from the mine was 2,383,000 ounces of gold from 5,546,000 tons of ore (0.43 oz/ton recovered grade).  When the mine closed in 1956 due to escalating costs and the fixed price of gold of US$35/oz, mining operations were underway on 25 different faces on 6 different levels. Large Mineralized System Defined - Extensive Infrastructure In Place The Idaho-Maryland vein system is 9,000 feet long, up to 3,000 feet wide, and has been partially-mined from surface to the 2000 foot level.  Access to the mine's 15 working levels is provided by the three-compartment, 3,460-foot deep New Brunswick Shaft.  Over 70 miles of underground tunnels and workings provide access to much of the property. A Three Million Ounce Gold Resource Has Been Defined…. A 1992 study by James Askew and Associates Inc. estimated that the remaining gold resources and potential mineralization between the 2000 and 3280 levels of the Idaho-Maryland mine are 9,117,500 ST @ 0.326 oz Au/ST (containing 2,968,400 oz Au).  This resource estimate excludes the potential for large, bulk tonnage targets identified by EMGOLD in 1997.  Upside Potential:  3,000,000+ oz Au</DIV> <DIV> Located within the wedge-shaped confines of three bounding faults, a 3-D geologic model developed for the Idaho-Maryland mine demonstrates the potential for continuity of the existing vein system to a vertical depth of 5,000 feet (the Idaho-Maryland mine is essentially unexplored below a depth of 3,280 feet). What is not widely known is that the adjoining Empire mine produced six million ounces of gold to a depth of 5,200 feet!  This fact, combined with the knowledge that all mineralized structures developed on the lowest levels of the Idaho-Maryland mine remain open at depth, supports EMGOLD's belief that considerably more ore may exist at depth. Development Program (1998 - 1999)</DIV> <DIV> EMGOLD's plans for reviving the Idaho-Maryland mine are to first de-water the mine, and then go underground to do further exploration to prove up the total resource potential.   EMGOLD has applied for and been granted all permits necessary for re-opening the New Brunswick shaft, de-watering the mine and completing a bankable feasibility. Potential Gold Production of at Least 140,000 oz / yr @ US$215 / oz Au EMGOLD plans to resume operations at the Idaho-Maryland mine at an initial mining rate of 1,500 ST ore / day, which would produce approximately 140,000 ounces of gold per year.  With the addition of a second shaft, it may be possible to increase production to 5,000 ST/day - at this production level, the Idaho-Maryland mine would produce over 200,000 ounces of gold per year (on par with other major mines). Recent studies indicate that the Idaho-Maryland mine could be profitably developed and operated at a long-term gold price of US$300/oz based on an estimated operating cost (excluding capital and royalties) of US$215 per ounce.  Current Market Conditions</DIV> <DIV> The current gold rally is gaining strength with each passing day! In the past month, bullion prices have risen nearly 10%.  Yesterday, the Philadelphia XAU gold and silver index closed at 74.69, up 53% from its record low of 48.67 set in late August. Mining stocks have regained favor with major Wall Street firms:  Merrill Lynch has initiated coverage of Placer Dome, Barrick, TVX and Kinross, while Bear Stearns has upgraded the recommendations of Asarco, Cyprus Amax and Phelps Dodge. To a large extent, the market rebound has largely benefited the major mining companies, whose share prices are now fully-valued (or even over-valued) at current gold prices.  However, we believe that, as the current rally continues, investors will increasingly seek out undervalued junior exploration and development companies with multi-million ounce gold deposits. Opportunity for Investors</DIV> <DIV> Trading at a tremendous discount to its fair market value, EMGOLD offers investors a low-risk investment opportunity in the current market environment, and a chance to accumulate a significant position in a stock that can be expected to rally strongly as gold prices move above US$300 / oz. With just 11.5 million shares outstanding (14 million fully-diluted) and a current share price of Cdn$0.28, the equity markets are valuing the Idaho-Maryland gold mine at just Cdn$1.06 per ounce of gold (Cdn$1.35 / oz Au on a fully-diluted basis).  EMGOLD's  Idaho-Maryland mine offers one of the best advanced exploration / developmental prospects available in North America.  With inferred resources of almost three million ounces, nearly one hundred years of operating history, an existing 3,400-foot, three-compartment  shaft and 70+ miles of underground workings, EMGOLD has 100% control of a world-class gold project with the vast majority of the expensive infrastructure in place and ready to go. For more information, please contact Andrew Hunter toll-free at 1 - 888 - 267 - 1400 Disclaimer: The information contained herein has been compiled or derived from sources believed reliable and contains information and opinions which are accurate and complete.  However, Gold Ridge makes no representation or warranty, express or implied, in respect thereof, takes no responsibility for any errors and omissions which may be contained herein and accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss arising from any use or reliance upon this report or its contents.  The information provided is for information purposes only and should not be construed as, and shall not form part of an offer or solicitation to but or sell any securities.  Emgold Mining has paid Gold Ridge a fee of US$20,000.00 for preparing and disseminating this information. </DIV></DIV> NOTE: For those on the internet who do not want to recieve exciting messages such as this..... * To be removed from our mailing list, simple send "remove" to the return address. *We strive to comply with all state and federal laws and to send ads only to interested parties. *This ad is not intended for nor do we knowingly send to Washington State residents. 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MAJOR STOCK ALERT!! A 3 MILLION GOLD RESOURCE CONFIRMED!!
by bubba219＠mailexcite.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

GOLD RIDGE INVESTMENT CORP. ANNOUNCES: GOLD MARKET RECOVERY GAINING STRENGTH - INVESTORS SHIFTING ATTENTION TO UNDERVALUED COMPANIES WITH WORLD-CLASS GOLD DEPOSITS EMGOLD MINING'S 100%-OWNED IDAHO-MARYLAND PROJECT HOSTS 2.97 MILLION OUNCE RESOURCE - TO BE DEVELOPED @ 140,000 oz/yr @ US$215 / oz Au EMGOLD MINING CORPORATION ("EMR" - VSE) 1610 - 777 Dunsmuir Street, P. O. Box 10435 Vancouver, BC V7Y 1K4 Canada Phone: (604) 687 - 4622 Fax: (604) 687 - 4212 Toll-Free: (888) 267 - 1400 website: http://www.emgold.com Introduction EMGOLD MINING CORP. has made significant progress in bringing the historic Idaho-Maryland gold mine to a production decision. Recent engineering studies indicate that less than half of the known gold has been extracted from the deposit, and that a 3,000,000 ounce resource remains to be mined. History & Past Production The Idaho-Maryland gold mine was discovered in 1851, and was in nearly-continuous production from 1862 through 1956. Total recorded production from the mine was 2,383,000 ounces of gold from 5,546,000 tons of ore (0.43 oz/ton recovered grade). When the mine closed in 1956 due to escalating costs and the fixed price of gold of US$35/oz, mining operations were underway on 25 different faces on 6 different levels. Large Mineralized System Defined - Extensive Infrastructure In Place The Idaho-Maryland vein system is 9,000 feet long, up to 3,000 feet wide, and has been partially-mined from surface to the 2000 foot level. Access to the mine's 15 working levels is provided by the three-compartment, 3,460-foot deep New Brunswick Shaft. Over 70 miles of underground tunnels and workings provide access to much of the property. A Three Million Ounce Gold Resource Has Been Defined. A 1992 study by James Askew and Associates Inc. estimated that the remaining gold resources and potential mineralization between the 2000 and 3280 levels of the Idaho-Maryland mine are 9,117,500 ST @ 0.326 oz Au/ST (containing 2,968,400 oz Au). This resource estimate excludes the potential for large, bulk tonnage targets identified by EMGOLD in 1997. Upside Potential: 3,000,000+ oz Au Located within the wedge-shaped confines of three bounding faults, a 3-D geologic model developed for the Idaho-Maryland mine demonstrates the potential for continuity of the existing vein system to a vertical depth of 5,000 feet (the Idaho-Maryland mine is essentially unexplored below a depth of 3,280 feet). What is not widely known is that the adjoining Empire mine produced six million ounces of gold to a depth of 5,200 feet! This fact, combined with the knowledge that all mineralized structures developed on the lowest levels of the Idaho-Maryland mine remain open at depth, supports EMGOLD's belief that considerably more ore may exist at depth. Development Program (1998 - 1999) EMGOLD's plans for reviving the Idaho-Maryland mine are to first de-water the mine, and then go underground to do further exploration to prove up the total resource potential. EMGOLD has applied for and been granted all permits necessary for re-opening the New Brunswick shaft, de-watering the mine and completing a bankable feasibility. Potential Gold Production of at Least 140,000 oz / yr @ US$215 / oz Au EMGOLD plans to resume operations at the Idaho-Maryland mine at an initial mining rate of 1,500 ST ore / day, which would produce approximately 140,000 ounces of gold per year. With the addition of a second shaft, it may be possible to increase production to 5,000 ST/day - at this production level, the Idaho-Maryland mine would produce over 200,000 ounces of gold per year (on par with other major mines). Recent studies indicate that the Idaho-Maryland mine could be profitably developed and operated at a long-term gold price of US$300/oz based on an estimated operating cost (excluding capital and royalties) of US$215 per ounce. Current Market Conditions The current gold rally is gaining strength with each passing day! In the past month, bullion prices have risen nearly 10%. Yesterday, the Philadelphia XAU gold and silver index closed at 74.69, up 53% from its record low of 48.67 set in late August. Mining stocks have regained favor with major Wall Street firms: Merrill Lynch has initiated coverage of Placer Dome, Barrick, TVX and Kinross, while Bear Stearns has upgraded the recommendations of Asarco, Cyprus Amax and Phelps Dodge. To a large extent, the market rebound has largely benefited the major mining companies, whose share prices are now fully-valued (or even over-valued) at current gold prices. However, we believe that, as the current rally continues, investors will increasingly seek out undervalued junior exploration and development companies with multi-million ounce gold deposits. Opportunity for Investors Trading at a tremendous discount to its fair market value, EMGOLD offers investors a low-risk investment opportunity in the current market environment, and a chance to accumulate a significant position in a stock that can be expected to rally strongly as gold prices move above US$300 / oz. With just 11.5 million shares outstanding (14 million fully-diluted) and a current share price of Cdn$0.28, the equity markets are valuing the Idaho-Maryland gold mine at just Cdn$1.06 per ounce of gold (Cdn$1.35 / oz Au on a fully-diluted basis). EMGOLD's Idaho-Maryland mine offers one of the best advanced exploration / developmental prospects available in North America. With inferred resources of almost three million ounces, nearly one hundred years of operating history, an existing 3,400-foot, three-compartment shaft and 70+ miles of underground workings, EMGOLD has 100% control of a world-class gold project with the vast majority of the expensive infrastructure in place and ready to go. For more information, please contact Andrew Hunter toll-free at 1 - 888 - 267 - 1400 Disclaimer: The information contained herein has been compiled or derived from sources believed reliable and contains information and opinions which are accurate and complete. However, Gold Ridge makes no representation or warranty, express or implied, in respect thereof, takes no responsibility for any errors and omissions which may be contained herein and accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss arising from any use or reliance upon this report or its contents. The information provided is for information purposes only and should not be construed as, and shall not form part of an offer or solicitation to but or sell any securities. Emgold Mining has paid Gold Ridge a fee of US$20,000.00 for preparing and disseminating this information. -------------------- <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HEAD> <META content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content='"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=GENERATOR> </HEAD> <DIV> <DIV>GOLD RIDGE INVESTMENT CORP. ANNOUNCES: GOLD MARKET RECOVERY GAINING STRENGTH - INVESTORS SHIFTING ATTENTION TO UNDERVALUED COMPANIES WITH WORLD-CLASS GOLD DEPOSITS EMGOLD MINING'S 100%-OWNED IDAHO-MARYLAND PROJECT HOSTS 2.97 MILLION OUNCE RESOURCE - TO BE DEVELOPED @ 140,000 oz/yr @ US$215 / oz Au EMGOLD MINING CORPORATION ("EMR" - VSE) 1610 - 777 Dunsmuir Street, P. O. Box 10435 Vancouver, BC  V7Y 1K4  Canada Phone: (604) 687 - 4622    Fax: (604) 687 - 4212 Toll-Free:  (888) 267 - 1400 website:  http://www.emgold.com Introduction</DIV> <DIV> EMGOLD MINING CORP. has made significant progress in bringing the historic Idaho-Maryland gold mine to a production decision.  Recent engineering studies indicate that less than half of the known gold has been extracted from the deposit, and that a 3,000,000 ounce resource remains to be mined. History & Past Production</DIV> <DIV> The Idaho-Maryland gold mine was discovered in 1851, and was in nearly-continuous production from 1862 through 1956.  Total recorded production from the mine was 2,383,000 ounces of gold from 5,546,000 tons of ore (0.43 oz/ton recovered grade).  When the mine closed in 1956 due to escalating costs and the fixed price of gold of US$35/oz, mining operations were underway on 25 different faces on 6 different levels. Large Mineralized System Defined - Extensive Infrastructure In Place The Idaho-Maryland vein system is 9,000 feet long, up to 3,000 feet wide, and has been partially-mined from surface to the 2000 foot level.  Access to the mine's 15 working levels is provided by the three-compartment, 3,460-foot deep New Brunswick Shaft.  Over 70 miles of underground tunnels and workings provide access to much of the property. A Three Million Ounce Gold Resource Has Been Defined…. A 1992 study by James Askew and Associates Inc. estimated that the remaining gold resources and potential mineralization between the 2000 and 3280 levels of the Idaho-Maryland mine are 9,117,500 ST @ 0.326 oz Au/ST (containing 2,968,400 oz Au).  This resource estimate excludes the potential for large, bulk tonnage targets identified by EMGOLD in 1997.  Upside Potential:  3,000,000+ oz Au</DIV> <DIV> Located within the wedge-shaped confines of three bounding faults, a 3-D geologic model developed for the Idaho-Maryland mine demonstrates the potential for continuity of the existing vein system to a vertical depth of 5,000 feet (the Idaho-Maryland mine is essentially unexplored below a depth of 3,280 feet). What is not widely known is that the adjoining Empire mine produced six million ounces of gold to a depth of 5,200 feet!  This fact, combined with the knowledge that all mineralized structures developed on the lowest levels of the Idaho-Maryland mine remain open at depth, supports EMGOLD's belief that considerably more ore may exist at depth. Development Program (1998 - 1999)</DIV> <DIV> EMGOLD's plans for reviving the Idaho-Maryland mine are to first de-water the mine, and then go underground to do further exploration to prove up the total resource potential.   EMGOLD has applied for and been granted all permits necessary for re-opening the New Brunswick shaft, de-watering the mine and completing a bankable feasibility. Potential Gold Production of at Least 140,000 oz / yr @ US$215 / oz Au EMGOLD plans to resume operations at the Idaho-Maryland mine at an initial mining rate of 1,500 ST ore / day, which would produce approximately 140,000 ounces of gold per year.  With the addition of a second shaft, it may be possible to increase production to 5,000 ST/day - at this production level, the Idaho-Maryland mine would produce over 200,000 ounces of gold per year (on par with other major mines). Recent studies indicate that the Idaho-Maryland mine could be profitably developed and operated at a long-term gold price of US$300/oz based on an estimated operating cost (excluding capital and royalties) of US$215 per ounce.  Current Market Conditions</DIV> <DIV> The current gold rally is gaining strength with each passing day! In the past month, bullion prices have risen nearly 10%.  Yesterday, the Philadelphia XAU gold and silver index closed at 74.69, up 53% from its record low of 48.67 set in late August. Mining stocks have regained favor with major Wall Street firms:  Merrill Lynch has initiated coverage of Placer Dome, Barrick, TVX and Kinross, while Bear Stearns has upgraded the recommendations of Asarco, Cyprus Amax and Phelps Dodge. To a large extent, the market rebound has largely benefited the major mining companies, whose share prices are now fully-valued (or even over-valued) at current gold prices.  However, we believe that, as the current rally continues, investors will increasingly seek out undervalued junior exploration and development companies with multi-million ounce gold deposits. Opportunity for Investors</DIV> <DIV> Trading at a tremendous discount to its fair market value, EMGOLD offers investors a low-risk investment opportunity in the current market environment, and a chance to accumulate a significant position in a stock that can be expected to rally strongly as gold prices move above US$300 / oz. With just 11.5 million shares outstanding (14 million fully-diluted) and a current share price of Cdn$0.28, the equity markets are valuing the Idaho-Maryland gold mine at just Cdn$1.06 per ounce of gold (Cdn$1.35 / oz Au on a fully-diluted basis).  EMGOLD's  Idaho-Maryland mine offers one of the best advanced exploration / developmental prospects available in North America.  With inferred resources of almost three million ounces, nearly one hundred years of operating history, an existing 3,400-foot, three-compartment  shaft and 70+ miles of underground workings, EMGOLD has 100% control of a world-class gold project with the vast majority of the expensive infrastructure in place and ready to go. For more information, please contact Andrew Hunter toll-free at 1 - 888 - 267 - 1400 Disclaimer: The information contained herein has been compiled or derived from sources believed reliable and contains information and opinions which are accurate and complete.  However, Gold Ridge makes no representation or warranty, express or implied, in respect thereof, takes no responsibility for any errors and omissions which may be contained herein and accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss arising from any use or reliance upon this report or its contents.  The information provided is for information purposes only and should not be construed as, and shall not form part of an offer or solicitation to but or sell any securities.  Emgold Mining has paid Gold Ridge a fee of US$20,000.00 for preparing and disseminating this information. </DIV></DIV> NOTE: For those on the internet who do not want to recieve exciting messages such as this..... * To be removed from our mailing list, simple send "remove" to the return address. *We strive to comply with all state and federal laws and to send ads only to interested parties. *This ad is not intended for nor do we knowingly send to Washington State residents. 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crypto on /.
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > X-within-URL: http://slashdot.org/ > Senate considering Tax-Free Net Bill The Almighty Buck Posted by Hemos > on Thursday October 01, @08:48AM > from the bloody-well-approve-it dept. > Well, although the House of Representations passed it way back in > June, the US Senate is finally getting close to passing the bill which > would temporarily close the Internet to any new taxes. It will be > considered today. It has been twice blocked by Senator Bob Graham > (D-Florida), but Senator McCain (R-Arizona) has pushed it forward. > Ask Slashdot: Cryptography and Digital Signatures Encryption Posted by > Cliff on Wednesday September 30, @09:40PM > from the encryption-101 dept. > Jonathan Squire writes in with questions concerning encryption. He > writes: '...is it considered "secure" to generate an MD5 of a > passphrase and then use the MD5 hash as the key to an RC4 cypher of a > message/file that you want to send to someone? What are the > implications of sending some alternative file with the same pass > phrase used if someone who does not know the pass phrase is able to > obtain both of the cyphertexts? What if they obtain both cyphertexts > and one clear text, how hard would it be (computationaly/finacially) > for them to derive the passphrase that was used?' There's more! > Click the link below... > Investigating Echelon Encryption Posted by Hemos on Wednesday > September 30, @02:29PM > from the white-or-black-spy dept. > It appears that the European Parliment is going to attempt to > investigae Echelon, the somewhat mystical eavesdropping entity that is > supposed to be able to listen to all Continental communications. This > article gives a great amount of detail about what it is alleged to > be, but apparently it's run by five security agencies, including the > NSA, and can intercept almost anything. I'd love to have this rig at > home. updated ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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