December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

House panel puts Clinton's private fax online
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.rollcall.com/newsscoops/leadscoop.html House Panel Puts Clinton's Private Fax on the Internet By Ed Henry and Jennifer Bradley President Clinton's private fax number was placed on the Internet by the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee for a brief time Tuesday in a breach that has infuriated White House officials. The number for the fax machine that sits right outside the Oval Office was provided to Government Reform and Oversight investigators by former Clinton political consultant Dick Morris, during an August deposition, on the condition that it be kept private. But the fax number, which Clinton uses for secure communications with old friends and people he meets during trips around the nation, was left in the deposition made public Tuesday on the Internet. "I can say on the President's behalf that he's disappointed that the committee didn't respect the confidentiality of his number," White House spokesman Mike McCurry said in an interview. "This is very troubling to the White House." After being contacted by Roll Call with the President's private number on Tuesday evening, McCurry did some checking and called back within a few minutes to declare, "Unfortunately it's a match." McCurry complained that the White House will now have to change the number and try to track down all of the disparate people who use the number. "This basically has the potential to ruin a device the President has used as a real good sounding board," he said. McCurry suggested this was an example of Government Reform and Oversight Chairman Dan Burton's (R-Ind) recklessness. [...]

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Junior Jim Bells in Training
by Eric Cordian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Two more future cypherpunks added to the list of people who will someday "McVeigh" Washington, DC. I'm surprised sending a flame to one of our elected leadership's public email addresses is not already a death penalty offense. ----- CORDOVA, Tenn. (AP) -- Two 13-year-old boys are charged with sending a threatening e-mail message over the Internet to Hillary Rodham Clinton. Contents of the electronic mail message to the president's wife haven't been released, but U.S. Secret Service agents are expected to outline them during a hearing Monday in Juvenile Court. The youngsters, whose names have not been released, are charged with threatening and harassing Mrs. Clinton. They could face a fine, counseling, community service or detention. Officials say it's unlikely that the president's wife read the message, which was sent last month. Anyone with a computer, modem and an Internet service provider can access the White House Web Page and Mrs. Clinton's E-mail address. Her page includes photos, a biography, speeches and instructions on sending an electronic message. ``The Internet is a wonderful tool that not only enables you to better access information about the White House, but also gives us an opportunity to hear your ideas and better serve you,'' Mrs. Clinton says in the welcoming text of her Web page. Senders must include a name, address and other information about why they're writing. All senders receive an electronic message acknowledging receipt of the e-mail. It was not clear whether the boys included their own names and addresses, but authorities say tracing e-mail is relatively easy. ``We aggressively investigate any threats or incidents of unusual interest toward any of our protectees,'' said Steven Rutledge, special agent in charge of the Secret Service in this area. Cordova is about 15 miles east of Memphis. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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Re: The Subliminal Algebra-Seinfield Conspiracy
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:45 AM 11/22/97 EST, you wrote: > >TruthMonger <tm(a)dev.null> writes: > >> Is it a mere coincidence that algebra.com went down and proceeded to >> send out all received messages in reverse order on the _same_day_ >> that the Seinfield TV show featured a reverse-order-plot show? > >I don't watch much TV, especially comedies. However I accidentally saw a >bit of "Seinfield" the other day and was surprise to note that they picture >Tom's restaurant, on 112th and Broadway. I worked for 7 years upstairs >from that restaurant in a very secret organization. I'm socked they even >show that building on TV. :-) > >--- > >Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM >Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps > > Is Dimitri a cossack? a cossock?, a cocksock?, or just a cocksucker? Typos the bane of understanding on the net.

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Re: Tampa Pirate Radio Stations Silenced
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

TruthMonger wrote: > Authorities say Kobres used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say Kobres used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say CypherPunks used their equipment to broadcast > anti-government messages. > Authorities say CypherPunks used their equipment to broadcast > anti-government messages. > Authorities say Chudov used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say Choates used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say Cottrel used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say Young used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say blanc used her equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say amp used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say Schear used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say Burnes used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say Ito used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say Vulis used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say Wienke used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say Galt used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > ... > Authorities say Kobres used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. Computer for sale. Cheap!

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10.5
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

nobody since Nixon was been impeached for violating his oath of office by subverting the Constitution. This suggests either that everyone honors the oath or that the oath is meaningless. Suppose, in a society with a normal level of criminal behavior, there were no prosecutions for burglary. Would you infer that there were no burglaries in that society? Or would you infer, rather, that the burglary laws just weren't being enforced? When a bill is proposed in Congress, our representatives almost never ask themselves: "Where in the Constitution do we get the power to enact this measure?" Instead they presume that they have virtually any power they choose to exercise. They simply feel no tension between their will and the Constitution that is supposed to restrain them. This doesn't look much like an ethos of limited government.

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10th
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Professor George P. Fletcher of the Columbia Law School notes "Not only is [McVeigh's philosophy] in line with the conceptions held by many of the nation's founders," Mr. Fletcher writes in The New Republic, "but it lives on today in the works of an influential minority of legal scholars and advocates." Mr. Fletcher thinks the problem is that we have abandoned "the original Constitution" and adopted "a new Constitution" without facing the historical discontinuity this involves. In his words, "we do not teach this historical rupture -- not in our grade schools, not in our law schools. We are all good lawyers and therefore, like Lincoln, we pretend that the second Constitution is simply the natural continuation of the founding document." The first Constitution limited the federal government to external relations between the states, leaving alone such internal matters as slavery. The second Constitution, instituted by the Civil War, gave the federal government new powers to intervene within the states through the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments The 10th Amendment, reserving to the states and the people all powers not "delegated" to the federal government, was not repealed or even modified. So Congress' exercise of any power not granted is still a usurpation, even under the "new" Constitution.

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Re: Jim Bell's Sentencing Delayed Again
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: > At 11:03 PM -0700 11/21/97, Greg Broiles wrote: > >I'm starting to favor the explanation which suggests that Jim will be > >testifying at the trial(s) or before grand juries in other matters - and > >that his sentencing is postponed to ensure his cooperation, and that the > >defense isn't squealing about the successive postponements because that's > >seen as more favorable than receiving a sentence of many, many months in > >the event of noncooperation. I'm reluctant to finger anyone as a "snitch" > I expect an arrest of several of us, on typically trumped-up RICO-type > charges. Mere speech has become criminalized, through vague, speculative, > conspiracy charges. Unreliable sources indicate that the authorities are waiting for a Canadian citizen to make a previously postponed trip across the American border before closing the net. Do your Christmas shopping early! A. Fiend ^r

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10.75 - NWO
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It's really a secondary matter whether the centralization of power is the result of a conscious collusion aimed at creating a world government. Conspiracies are real, and conspiratorial behavior is inseparable from politics, since politics is largely the pursuit of power by sneaky people. I don't think Abraham Lincoln intended to destroy the independence of the states when he conducted the Civil War. He merely wanted to save the Union, and he thought in terms of that immediate goal. But it doesn't matter what he meant to do. As a practical matter, his policy set the United States on a course of centralization. The Union victory meant that no state could ever secede again, regardless of how tyrannical the Union might become. That removed an essential restraint on Union -- alias "federal" -- power. I doubt that Franklin Roosevelt meant to destroy all remaining constitutional restraints on the government; he merely knocked them out of his way when necessary. In the same way, today's globalists and interventionists, forever pursuing international treaties and alliances, may think they are promoting peace and prosperity, seeing no tyrannical potential in a "new world order." But the rest of us have to worry about what these arrangements may mean for us and our children down the road. Good intentions are beside the point. What is the actual tendency of these new contracts among superstates?

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[Fwd: [cpj:265] COS] [cpj:265] COS
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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No Subject
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

doormouse said: >igor said: > >>I am sorry for the recent interruption of the cypherpunks mailing list. >>The dog ate my computer. Then Joichi Ito ate my dog. >> >>Igor > >Igor, Japanese dont eat dog, that is the Koreans and Vietnamese. > >doormouse Perhaps they picked up the taste while they were occupying those countries in their Fascist efforts for conquest. DogMonger

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