December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Mailing-List
by Marky 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Please email me information about your mailing-list.

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Remailers, PGP, and a Project Suggestion
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sun, 27 Sep 1998, Anonymous wrote: > At 23 Sep 1998 04:27:46 Reeza! wrote: > > anonymouse, 32 bit aohell to boot. you must feel very safe. Yours is hardly > > the type of post that might necessitate the use of a remailer, so it should > > be safe to assume you haven't the courage to stand behind your words, even > > as mild as they are. > > > > Fuck you too. I suggest you discuss your lack of a spine with the maker. > > See the above for instructions to meet the maker. > > > > Reeza! > > Hello? This is an old topic, but what the heck... > > There is a concept cypherpunks have called "Blacknet", which is an > organisation that sells profiles of prospective employees based on > their public comments on the Internet. > > This allows employers to filter out undesirables who might or might > not have outgrown their rebellious youth. (You can never be too safe!) Even this is a secondary issue. Many people are using remailers these days because of the advent of the WWW. Virtually anything written, retrieved, or transfered on the Internet is vulnerable to monitoring, logging, and future use against you. Even if you trust the guy you're sending mail to, you can't necessarily trust his computer security or the security of the network. Systems like Dejanews and the web search engines illustrate just how much of a log is out there. That isn't counting the information available solely from mail headers and IP addresses. When somebody wants to perform a "great purge," they just go off to a search engine or database, type in some parameters, and get a list of people to shoot, jail, or harass. The natural solution to this is to disguise your identity whenever possible. I estimate that we have several dozen people who actively post to Cypherpunks through remailers judging by the way some things are stated in the postings. I can't tell for sure, and that's the point. If you want to generate reputation capital, use a nym server. Nym servers make it obvious that you're using a nym, but it allows you to generate as many reputations as you want and keep them separate. They're hard to use without a tool, even for the best of us. Premail leaves a lot to be desired in that it's slow, has some bugs, and lacks some good features, but most of the people who want to create a new version seem to live in the U.S.. The real advantage of the nym servers is that they allow people to see the origin of the message at a glance. You can do the same thing with regular anonymous remailers, but you have to verify the signature rather than glancing at the headers. You should still verify the signature in either case. This was less of a problem than it once was because premail was out there, until PGP 5 came out. PGP 5.x is incompatable with previous versions since it changed both the protocols and the command line interface. Unfortunately, they changed the command line interface in a rather stupid way. They also wound up releasing the Windows version before the UNIX version (by something like three months). They seem to check argv[0] to determine what kind of operation you want to do. 'pgp -seat' won't work anymore. Instead, it's a variant under 'pgpe'. One PGP binary is created, and several links are set up. The result is that you can't change the name of the binaries and links if you want. If there's an advantage to this, I sure don't see it. When they released the Windows version, Windows users understandably snatched it up and started using it. The result was a bunch of incompatabilities between two platforms which could have easily been solved had PGP, Inc. exercised a little more discression. That's a moot point now, though. The problem which still remains is the command line interface. It breaks any script which references PGP, and that's the main problem. What UNIX really needs is some kind of mailer which integrates an updated premail, PGP 2.x support, and PGP 5.x support. Unfortunately, much to the delight of the government, the people who would code such a thing are probably in the U.S. like I am.

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Re:
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 27 Sep 1998, Anonymous wrote: > > Paul is coming from AOL using Netscape as a mailer and using the > open relay at cesvxa.ces.edu. He's admitted this at least once in a sidebar on a message, as I seem to recall, so it's nothing new. It does go to show conflict of interest, and it could be claimed that he's trying to make himself feel better, I suppose. Looking back, he's used AOL for most of his postings, except for one I came across which apparently came from an admin machine at ces.edu, so he isn't exploiting some random open relay somewhere. Generally they all route through ces.edu. I can't speak for Paul, but I figure that he's probably doing what he once said that he is, and using a modem link to AOL, using AOL for a routing service, then routing mail through the relay at CES. I don't know why someone would want to do that if they're sitting on a university network, but it doesn't matter much. I just checked: the relay does appear to be an open relay. I just hope spammers don't wind up finding out which, of course, they probably will after that post. Can we have some signal somewhere, please?

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sunday, September 27, 1998 - 23:06:35 MET First of all I want to say that the last posting I did to cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net did not reach the intended recipients. And two, > Subject: Remailers, PGP, and a Project Suggestion > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 20:50:36 +0200 > From: Anonymous <nobody(a)replay.com> > To: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net > Unfortunately, much to the delight of the > government, the people who would code such > a thing are probably in the U.S. like I am. I would be more than glad to do the coding. I am not in the US. However, the only thing that stops me is the fact that I just don't know enough programming.

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GNUcash [/.]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > X-within-URL: http://www.gnucash.org/ > content In the spirit of cooperation we bring you The GnuCash > Project. We all realized that it was senseless to have several > different projects working toward the same goals. So we did the most > logical thing, we merged! The result of this merger is the GnuCash > Project. > > Some of the projects that merged included X-Accountant, and GnoMoney. > GnuCash will be based on the lastest version of Xacc. We will use the > "transaction engine" from Xacc, and port the GUI from Motif to > Gnome/Gtk. Several other significant features will also be added. Such > as support for splits, and online banking via OFX. To see a list of > other planned features please check out the features page. > > There is unfortunately no stable version of GnuCash available yet. So > if you are interested in using a financial package now I suggest using > the lastest version of Xacc, which is a very stable, and full featured > piece of software! =) Check out the pages below for more info on Xacc. > News 09-17-98 > * ANNOUNCE - Gnucash 1.1.18 is released. Get it at ftp.gnucash.org ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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please help
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.angelfire.com/ok/ProveIt/

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Meriweather v. Gates
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It's an ironic indication of where we are that Bill Gates is being hounded by the Justice Department, Sun Microsystems, Netscape, Novell, and Ralph Nader while no one is hounding John Meriweather. In fact, the Federal Reserve System, nominally nongovernmental (wink wink) just helped to bailed out his firm, Long-Term Capital Management. Gates, you see, has a non-leveraged investment of $50 billion in Microsoft. No borrowing, no margin debt, just plain old-fashioned ownership. Meriweather, on the other hand, started in 1991 and took in money from speculators. He took the $2.2 billion and borrowed with it, hitting the $125 B in borrowed assets point. Then he and his rocket scientists essentially borrowed still more, using this $125 B to leverage $1.25 T. (T for "trillion.") Not bad, going from $2.2 B to $1.25 T, a mere 500-fold increase. (Like taking the money one planned to spend on a new PC, a couple of thousand or so, and instead controlling a million dollars worth of financial instruments.) Had the folks at LTCM made the right bet on the roulette wheel, by guessing the direction of interest rates, the tens of billions of profits would have been theirs to keep, with little work on their part. (Some of the principals are now disclaiming responsibility, saying LTCM was only a sideline interest.) Ah, but they guessed wrong, and now they and their lenders are being bailed out. In America, profits are private but losses are public. Meanwhile, Gates sticks to building up his company, selling actual products. No margin debt, no loans for the American taxpayer to cover, no overextended lines of credit. Oh, the horror of it! Gates must be attacked by the U.S. government and all of his incompetent competitors! He must be driven out of business! We need to make the world safer for folks like Meriweather. (Think of what Meriweather could be doing with the $50 B that Gates has! Instead of being worth a piddling $50 billion, Meriweather and Scholes and that bunch could double down, double down again, and again, and turn it into $25 trillion! All with just some computer commands. American capitalism at its best.) We bail out Meriweather. We try to bust Gates. I'm going to be sick. The reformatting of this country is overdue. --Tim May (This space left blank pending determ. of acceptability to the gov't.) ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments.

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Police would never exagerate ? Guess what...
by Jean-Francois Avon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE================== >Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:57:46 +0930 >From: SSAA <Sporting.Shooters.Association(a)adelaide.on.net> >Subject: NEWS - Toy Pistol case dismissed >Reply-to: Sporting.Shooters.Association(a)adelaide.on.net THE SUNDAY TELEGRAPH, Sydney. Sept 27.by Wayne Jones. A MAGISTRATE has dismissed charges against a 165 year old boy who faced jail for possessin a toy cap gun. The magistrate, Hal Halenstean, made the decision after hearing what he described as a "silly case" on Friday. "We all have better things to do", Mr Halenstein said, The boy, who cannot be identified bought the toy cap gun from a toy stall at Victoria's Dandednong Market on May 12. Minutes later, police looking for drug dealers found the cap gun in the boy's jacket. They charged boy with several firearm offences which carry a jail sentence. In court, Mr Halenstein twice gave prosecutors on opportunity to withdraw the charges against the boy, but police indicated they would continue to contest the case. Using special provisions of the Sentencing Act, Mr Halenstein then dissmissed the charges. The boy's barrister, Arend Slink, said the court case had set a precedent under the new gun laws. Toy cap guns could no longer be classed as prohibited weapons, he said. "If there is any sinister intent there are a range of serious charges that a person could be charged with. "Mr Slink" said"But in the case of a child possessing a toy cap gun a precedent has now been clearly set". The Sunday Telegraph reported on May 24 the boy could face jail if found guilty of the swrioud gun charges, which included: # Being a non-prohibited person did possess/carry a handgun which was not registered. # Being a non-prohibited person did possess/ carry a handgun which ge did not have a licecnce for under part two of the Firearms Act 1996. # Did own a handgun whilst not authorissed by a licence under the Firearms Act 1996 to possess a firearm. Police had alleged the toy gun was consedered an imitation firearm inder strict new gun laws and therefore deemed to be a prohibited weapon. The toy gun bought by the boy is one of thousands soldacross the state. The boy said he had bought the toy cap gun with pocket money. THE END. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ View Democrat Firearm Policy www.ssaa.org.au/dempolicy.html Print, copy and distribute. ===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE=================== Jean-Francois Avon, B.Sc. Physics, Montreal, Canada DePompadour, Société d'Importation Ltée Limoges fine porcelain and french crystal JFA Technologies, R&D physicists & engineers Instrumentation & control, LabView programming PGP keys: http://bs.mit.edu:8001/pks-toplev.html PGP ID:C58ADD0D:529645E8205A8A5E F87CC86FAEFEF891 PGP ID:5B51964D:152ACCBCD4A481B0 254011193237822C

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17 Dec '03

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Cypherpunks defeat?
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:02 AM -0500 9/24/98, Albert P. Franco, II wrote: >I think perhaps a tougher question is, "Is there a way, without resorting >to bloodshed, to regain control of our private property and private lives?" >That's not a troll! I know that there are a lot people on this list with >their assault rifles at the ready, that are convinced that only armed >resistance will work. But. I think that's the "easy" way out. (How) can it >be done another way? It's ironic that you would have to ask that question here. The cypherpunks group was founded on this very premise: that through the use of cryptography, people would become able to engage in a wide range of voluntary transactions, outside of the reach of meddling interlopers. Most cypherpunks have become disillusioned about their dreams, and you will seldom hear them defend the notion that cryptography offers any kind of alternative to a society based on coercion. The past few years have been hard ones. The failure of digital cash, the gradual trend towards a debate over when and how (rather than whether) to regulate domestic cryptography, widespread abuse of anonymity, all these make the original cypherpunk goals seem even more distant today than in the past. Is the cypherpunks dream dead? Is the movement over? Maybe it is time to give up. Throw in the towel, admit that we lost. Sure, there are still battles to be fought, rear-ground actions where we can perhaps delay the inevitable outcome. But the vision has been lost, and all that is left is the post-mortem analysis of the failed dream.

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