December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: News for class
by HyperReal-Anon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, sboyd wrote: > > Please inform me how I can get the news each day by e-mail at > flashboyd(a)aol.com. This information will be used in my comm class. > > It's really easy, but requires some work with hardware. First, you open your computer. Then you get a large sledgehammer and bash the inside of the computer thrice. WARNING: If you do it less than three times this may not work! Then, you get five liters of rubbing alcohol and pour it into the machine, wait about a minute, then stick your head about an inch from it and drop a match. Congratulations! You're in the news!

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Re: News for class
by Marc Maffei 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

no.... I don't think that is what is being asked here, read the message again and you will see that he is asking for getting news not being news (even though I would love it if aolers would become news in the worst way), so I suggest that instead he should do this: 1.) go to his mailbox or PO box 2.) open up his computer 3.) carefully insert mail in any possible cavity (in computer stones for brain) 4.) and now proceed with prior suggestion or 5.) ensure computer is plugged in (wall socket, you know... socket connected to power grid, grid connected to generator... etc) 6.) pour water or other suitably conductive liquid on whole mess 7.) repeat all steps as often as necessary for enlightenment to be achieved This might not get the poster closer to knowledge as far as news is concerned but it should definitely provide us with a chuckle or two. -----Original Message----- From: HyperReal-Anon <nobody(a)sind.hyperreal.art.pl> To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com <cypherpunks(a)toad.com> Date: Sunday, August 30, 1998 3:42 PM Subject: Re: News for class >On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, sboyd wrote: > >> >> Please inform me how I can get the news each day by e-mail at >> flashboyd(a)aol.com. This information will be used in my comm class. >> >> > >It's really easy, but requires some work with hardware. First, you open >your computer. Then you get a large sledgehammer and bash the inside of >the computer thrice. WARNING: If you do it less than three times this may >not work! Then, you get five liters of rubbing alcohol and pour it into >the machine, wait about a minute, then stick your head about an inch from >it and drop a match. > >Congratulations! You're in the news! > >

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Moving ahead
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sunday 8/30/98 6:58 PM NYA and John Young I bought three books for you guys at B Dalton at the Cottonwood mall in Rio Rancho last night. One is titled LOS ALAMOS and the development of the ATOMIC BOMB by Robert W. Seidel The book covers von Nuemann, Feynman, Ulam, and Metropolis. These guys pioneered use of Monte Carlo techniques in nuclear bomb design. My former MS and Ph.D. student Ted Lewis http://www.friction-free-economy.com told me some years ago that the GFSR http://www-hto.usc.edu/software/seqaln/doc/html/gfsr.3.html is used the nuclear bomb simulations. We were into Monte Carlo work in the '70s http://www.mhpcc.edu/general/john.html But in the '80s I WAS FORCED into the business of electronic locks, data authentication and fuzing weapons. http://www.apcatalog.com/cgi-bin/AP?ISBN=0125475705&LOCATION=US&FORM=FORM2 http://jya.com/f86/whpf86.htm And KNEW ABOUT http://www.aci.net/kalliste/speccoll.htm http://caq.com/cryptogate http://jya.com/whpfiles.htm http://www.qainfo.se/~lb/crypto_ag.htm Lets ALL hope for settlement. So that we CAN ALL move on to better projects. Later bill

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Is Hate Code Speech?
by Albert P. Franco, II 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From: mcw(a)atreus.ncs.ncsc.mil >Subject: Is Hate Code Speech? > >I acknowledge that you're welcome to use whatever variable names you >want in code you write in private. BUt if you want to sell that code, it >should be held to a standard of professionalism. > I think it is interesting that people are speaking of the program as something published for public consumption. Source code for commercial products rarely goes public and compilers do a rather nice job of obscuring human language variable names. Thus if there is any message or coherent agenda in the source code it is highly unlikely that it will be detectable in the executable, which is in fact the product delivered to the public. Since the source code can only be read by insiders/employees then this does tend to make it rather obvious that a form of speech was intended. I won't rehash the fact that non-relevant, human-language-significant variable names (as opposed to x, y, i, & j) are generally unacceptable programming practice. I would make two points; that in todays programming world source code is protected by copyright law as are other forms of expression legally considered speech and source code is intended to document the process and as such communicate ideas--in a broad sense this is a decent description of speech, a written mode of communicating ideas. If someone finds offensive (hate) material in an obscured text (encrypted) intended for limited distribution, does the encryption make it less hateful? does the encryption make it any less a form of speech? does the fact that distribution is limited (assumming the "target" is in the distribution class) make it any less offensive? Is a crime less illegal if it is hidden? (Be careful, on this one...) I think that offensive, probably hateful, speech was intended. So the next step (or for others, a previous step) is to decide whether there are legal grounds for action. There are several laws which do, in fact, make these activities illegal. Most people in the US today agree that overt racism is wrong. Additionally, most "Americans" agree with laws that make it illegal to use/perform "hateful" speech. These are very dangerous laws since they try to tread a very thin line between the freedom of thoughts (and to some degree, actions) and injury to others. When I first settled down to live in Spain and began to pay real attention to the local political scene I was astonished to find people defending the "right" of the radicals to throw stones and metal objects at those persons expressing ideas contrary to theirs (pro-peace, anti-terrorism demonstrations, 1995-6). Fortunately, we hear less and less of this non-sense that physical harm to another is a valid form of personal expression or speech. But the base problem lingers, where do we draw the line of expression of ideas and intent to do harm. It has long been held that shouting "fire" in a crowded building is not a protected form of speech. Nor is libel (forgetting for now the problems of defining or proving it). And where do we draw the line (or does it even matter?) between public and private? And where do expression and action get separated? Thinking about doing something, or telling some one about those thoughts are not generally the same as actually doing it. But where does thought become expression become action? This case doesn't solely revolve around the speech issue...IMO, it also revolves around the public/private issue, and whether or not the government can rightfully "enter" a "private" business place to regulate these matters. Recent history (80 years or so...) shows an increasing tendency for the government to "protect" workers by regulating the workplace. There are health & safety regs, minimum wage regs, etc. The "American" populace has in general supported (and at times demanded) these external limits on the "private" employer/employee relationship. Legal precedent exists. There are two problems here and historically the government has been called upon to keep a balance between "free speech" and "harmful speech" on the one hand and "Privacy" and "Protection" on the other hand. The debate now is with this case which way will (should?) the pendulum swing? More protection (reduction of privacy), more freedom (or hateful speech)... Personally, I hope no one wins this eternal debate 100% since the results would be disastrous. Just some thoughts... Albert P. Franco, II encryption(a)apf2.com

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

We don't take kindly to racial slurs here. You'll probably be receiving hundreds of email bombs over the next few days from angry cypherpunks. You may want to change email accounts. God bless! At 08:19 PM 8/29/98 -0400, RyanFord(a)aol.com wrote: > hola and good tidings > send some info on spooks please > i will be grateful >

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