December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: radio net (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 00:51:49 -0700 > From: "William J. Hartwell" <billh(a)ibag.com> > Subject: Re: radio net > I think a radio network linked to the Amateur networks sending secure > packets, > using tunneling or maybe just encrypted traffic (There may be some FCC > rules regarding this. The FCC prohibits the transmission of encrypted data via analog or digital signals by amateurs. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Citizenship silliness. Re: e$: crypto-expatriatism (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:03:25 -0500 > From: Petro <petro(a)playboy.com> > Subject: Re: Citizenship silliness. Re: e$: crypto-expatriatism (fwd) > There already are several, the problem is the cannot be centralized > the way oil is. That's not really the problem... > Alcohol is acceptable (and in some ways better) than gasoline for > cars and motorcycles, but anyone can set up a still and compete with RDS & > Standard. The problem with alcohol is that there isn't enough free land in order grow enough plant material to provide the necessary quantities without seriously restricting the amount of land available for actual foodstuffs and living space (unless you want everyone to move to Black Rock desert or live on the top of a mountain). Alcohol is also much more of a fire hazard than gas. It burns hotter, isn't put out by water spray easily, and burns invisibly (well all right in the near-UV). > A mix of solar Again not enough land to make it feasible, not to mention the low efficiency of even the best panels. > wind Not enough places in the US (or anywhere else for that matter) where the wind blows with sufficient force 18 hours a day to make it economical. > coal Coal isn't an acceptable substitute, mainly because there isn't enough low-sulphur deposits in the world to supply the US, let alone the rest of the world. Plus it isn't renewable. > hydroelectric Not enough rivers with sufficient hydrodynamic head to make this work for the US let alone the rest of the planet. > nuclear I'll buck the general consensus because I like nuclear energy, however there is a single MAJOR caveat, we need fussion and not fission reactors to make it economical. The waste problem with fission reactors is enough to vote in the negative on them. > and other sources cop-out. The reality is that the clathrate deposits occur across the entire ocean. The existing Magnesium Nodule treaties could be extended to cover the countries that don't have coastlines. They are the first renewable, occurring in sufficient quantity, and with realizable and economicly feasible methods for mining, processing, and distributing to have been put on the table. As to the gas and oil folk being against them, they're about the only ones with an existing infrastructure (ie extracting oil and gas from the sea floor) to take advantage of the source, implying that existing changes in the infrastructure would be minor. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dear Mr Gordon, When I checked the digital signature on the Internet death threat using the PGP software and JOHNSON'S secret key ring, the computer identified the signature as one of the signature keys stored in JOHNSON'S computer. Because both the "private" and "public" portions of the "key" were stored on JOHNSON'S computer, the message can be authenticated as having been generated by the person who possessed this "secret key" and knew the correct password. In other words, only the person possessing the secret key found on JOHNSON'S computer could have generated the "death threat" message. Why would you claim only one person possessed the secret key? As you doubtlessly know, some of the TruthMonger secret keys have been posted to Cypherpunks anonymously. This is not authentication. Thank you.

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Re: Carl Johnson Warrant and Complaint
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> > > As I'd been deleting nearly all of Toto's stuff unread, I missed all the > stuff about (allegedly) threatening to bomb the RCMP. That's probably true for most of us...it was an unbelievable volume of crap he sent the list. (as opposed to my crap ;-) > Best to leave rants at the general, protected speech level, and to not get > into specifics of names and working habits of agents. For example: # Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 22:39:01 -0700 # To: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net # From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> # Subject: Tax silliness # # Fox News is reporting that the IRS has said it may seek to # assess "gift taxes" if the guy who recovered Mark McGwire's 61st home # baseball gives the ball back to Mark McGwire. # # Those fuckers in D. C. need to be put out of our misery. Yeah, much better, Tim. ;-) But don't start holding rallies and saying it in public in NYC, or Rudolph Giuliani might have you arrested. ---- http://jya.com/usa-v-cej-wc.htm > 8. On December 9, 1997, an anonymous message was posted to the > Cypherpunks Internet mail group with the subject listed as "Encrypted > InterNet DEATH THREAT!!! / ATTN: Ninth District Judges / PASSWORD: > sog"[.] The body of the message was encrypted with the publicly > available encryption software PGP, and was initially unreadable. Using > PGP software and the password shown in the subject line of the > message, I was able to decrypt the message, which contained a > rambling, five-page statement, including the following: That would appear to be this post: http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/dir.97.12.04-97.12.10/msg00356.html Entirely unexplained is how one goes from passphrase "sog" (Shit on government?) to decrypting the PGP message. What public or private key was used? > 9. I noted that this message contained a PGP digital signature. From > my training and experience, I am aware that this digital signature is > used as a way to authenticate digital documents to make sure that they > are authored by the purported author and that no one has tampered with > them. When I checked the signature using only PGP software, the PGP > program was unable to identify it. What key...? > Only July 1, 1998, Royal Canadian > Mounted Police (RCMP) Investigator Steve Foster provided me with a PGP > "Secret Key Ring" which he stated he had obtained from a computer > which Canadian Customs authorities had seized from an individual by > the name of CARL EDWARD JOHNSON. [A "secret key ring" is a > user-generated code which allows for the encryption (and later > authentication) of computer-generated documents.] When I checked the > digital signature on the Internet death threat using the PGP software > and JOHNSON'S secret key ring, the computer identified the signature > as one of the signature keys stored in JOHNSON'S computer. Because > both the "private" and "public" portions of the "key" were stored on > JOHNSON'S computer, the message can be authenticated as having been > generated by the person who possessed this "secret key" and knew the > correct password. In other words, only the person possessing the > secret key found on JOHNSON'S computer could have generated the "death > threat" message. Sparky got it wrong. Many people could have the same public/secret key pairs, all they have to do is give them out. And you don't authenticate messages with the "secret key" in standard use. This person seems to have no clue, after months of tracking, how basic public key encryption software works. In fact, the key ring could be edited to have a fake secret key and the public key that works as the digital signature for the posted message. More questions: did they get the passphrase for his computer's PGP secret key? How? And why did RCMP customs seize his computer? ---guy

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The full Monica: Novel new 'service'/Collectors' issue - New interface tomorrow
by STUFFED NEWS DAILY 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Any good hacking sites?
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

M I T wrote: > ... > also, any1 here into AOL hacking??? > Oh, this is almost _too_ easy... Yeah, we know about AOL hacking... First, you get a couple of million clueless fucktards like yourself together and give all of them the same 800-number to dial in... Watch what follows: <closeup of two fuckholes; if breathing weren't an autonomic response, they'd both be dead> bzzzt... bzzzt... bzzzt... <fx: busy signal> Lamer #1: "Hey, d00d, whatcha doin?" bzzzt... bzzzt... bzzzt... Lamer #2: "I'm hacking AOL, man." bzzzt... bzzzt... bzzzt... Lamer #1: "Whoa! C00l, d00d! Can I like, watch?" bzzzt... bzzzt... bzzzt... Lamer #2: "Sure, man." <cut to screen showing WinBlows "Starfield Simulation" screensaver> ... Any questions?

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Re: Carl Johnson Warrant and Complaint
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Why would you claim only one person possessed the secret key? As you > doubtlessly know, some of the TruthMonger secret keys have been posted > to Cypherpunks anonymously. This is not authentication. Thank you. Prove it. Post the archived message where these secret keys were posted. Let's see the one which signed: http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/dir.97.12.04-97.12.10/msg00356.html Note to the clueless guy(a)panix.com, who asks: > Entirely unexplained is how one goes from passphrase "sog" (Shit on government?) > to decrypting the PGP message. I'm impressed. You're actually stupider than Jeff Gordon, the IRS flunky. He was able to figure it out, so why don't you try. Ask your kindergarten teacher to give you a gold star once you fumble your way to the answer.

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question...
by Bernardo B. Terrado 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

What is the TEMPEST? (just an overview) What do enciphered images look like? Thank you. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Some people they might say that I'm hard to get to know. I go my own sweet way, well that maybe so. Something about the crowd that makes me walk alone. I never had a need in me to be the party's life and soul. It's me Bernie. metaphone(a)altavista.net ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

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Cypherpunks as a Continuing Criminal Enterprise?
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Could our group be charged as a "continuing criminal enterprise" under the RICO statute? It occurs to me that if Carl Johnson, who is linked several times to our group/list in the court documents, is successfully prosecuted,then the Feds may be able to cite both Bell and Johnson as evidence of a conspiracy. Which probably wouldn't be too hard to prove, as many of us have admitted to conspiring mightily to undermine various institutions. (And we even use encypted e-mail, the very essence of a secret conspiracy.) It might be fun to see them try this. Would they charge some of us as ringleaders? Or would they declare the entity itself an illegal organization? (As they have done with various cultural, political, and even religous groups, like Hezbollah, the Aum religion, etc.) Interesting times. --Tim May "The tree of liberty must be watered periodically with the blood of tyrants...." ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments.

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CTIA Daily News from WOW-COM - September 9, 1998
by CTIA Daily News 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

CTIAs Daily News From WOW-COM was not circulated yesterday and today because of a wireline telephone system failure that is disrupting service to the Cellular Telecommunications Industry Association building in Washington, D.C. We regret the inconvenience this may have caused you and look forward to resuming the Daily News service as soon as possible.

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