December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

RE: atheism (was: RE: Democracy... (fwd)) (fwd)
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jim Choate wrote: > As I've demonstrated before (and for the last time): > > ^(A) = (^A) f() = belief function A = hypothesis ^ = not f(^A) != ^f(A) At least not without placing requirements on f(). Then you claim everything is a belief, so f() is meaningless. But then you deny A == A when you claimed that metaphysical objectivity is a belief, so what was the point in writing the equation in the first place? Go transcend. Matt

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RE: This is a listed crime?
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> silence obstruction of justice > false information lying to a federal agent in course of ... > ... Regarding the 5th amendment and other laws and precedence involving the right to remain silent, the right against self-incrimination, etc, how far could one carry that as an excuse to remain silent? I mean I have no doubt given the number of laws and regulations on the books that I will say something self-incriminating by some obscure law and/or obscure interpretation every sixth or seventh sentence. Matt

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by galliart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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by sixdegrees 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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RE: This is a listed crime? (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Matthew James Gering <mgering(a)ecosystems.net> > Subject: RE: This is a listed crime? > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:32:19 -0700 > Regarding the 5th amendment and other laws and precedence involving the > right to remain silent, the right against self-incrimination, etc, how > far could one carry that as an excuse to remain silent? As far as ones convictions and intestinal fortitude will take them. Simply tell them you won't answer any of their questions, you'd like to make your phone call *now*, and you want to see a judge *now*. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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CyberPoll Results - The Starr Report
by info＠survey.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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My favorite Clinton Quote from Today...
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"I'm trying to be honest with you, and it hurts me." :-). "I am not a crook."? Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Alone
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Clinton: "...it depends on how you define 'alone'.". Alone enough to get a blowjob? Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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RE: atheism (was: RE: Democracy... (fwd)) (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Matthew James Gering <mgering(a)ecosystems.net> > Subject: RE: atheism (was: RE: Democracy... (fwd)) (fwd) > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:09:30 -0700 > Jim Choate wrote: > > As I've demonstrated before (and for the last time): > > > > ^(A) = (^A) > > f() = belief function > A = hypothesis > ^ = not > > f(^A) != ^f(A) Prove it. The f in your f() is redundant, but I can work with it. Simply stating it over and over isn't proof. We're doing Boolean Algebra here not Algebra, the rules for transitory functions are different. I'll even do you a favor and list the Boolean Laws and Theorems for you: 1) X+0=X X*1=X 2) X+1=1 X*0=0 3) X+X=X X*X=X 4) (X')'=X 5) X+X'=X X*X'=0 6) X+Y=Y+X X*Y=Y*X 7) (X+Y)+Z=X+(Y+Z) (XY)Z=X(YZ)=XYZ =X+Y+Z 8) X(Y+Z)=XY+XZ X+YZ=(X+Y)*(X+Z) 9) XY+XY'=X (X+Y)*(X+Y')=X 10) X+XY=X X(X+Y)=X 11) (X+Y')Y=XY XY'+Y=X+Y 12) (X+Y+Z+...)'=X'Y'Z'... (XYX...)'=X'+Y'+Z'+... 13) [f(X1, X2, X3,...,0,1,+,*)]'= f(X1', X2', X3',...,1,0,*,+) {The following two are called Duality Theorems, not important here} 14) (X+Y+Z+...)^D = XYZ... (XYZ...)^D=X+Y+Z+... 15) [f(X1, X2, X3, ...,0,1,+,*)]^D=f(X1, X2, X3,...,1,0,*,+) 16) XY+YZ+X'Z=XY+X'Z (X+Y)*(Y+Z)*(X'+Z)=(X+Y)*(X'+Z) 17) (X+Y)(X'+Z)=XZ+X'Y The ones you and your dualist-atheism buddies are confused on are #4, #12, & #13. By #4 we have: ^(X)=(^X) By #12 we have: ^(X)=^X By #13 we have: ^f(X) = f(^X) All are clearly contrary to your assertion. Balls in your court junior. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Stego-empty hard drives... (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:05:30 -0400 > From: Sunder <sunder(a)brainlink.com> > Subject: Re: Stego-empty hard drives... > What's this bullshit, eh? Just overwrite the BIOS roms in your machine to > return all zeros for the sectors you don't want to show them. Have some > special passphrase you have to type in while in the BIOS setup program to > deactivate this. Most newer notebooks have flash upgradeable ROMs anyway. What's this bullshit, eh? I wonder how you propose to answer the question: "Sir, exactly why are you typing that sentence into the computer at this time?" Now we have not only given them probably cause but clear evidence for a prior intent to commit a crime. Even if your hard drive is clean they're going to bust your ass. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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