December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Nobody's Friend
by StanSquncr 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

In a message dated 4/7/98 2:26:38 PM Central Daylight Time, nobody(a)REPLAY.COM writes: << From: tsatan(a)hotmail.com >> I would read that as - T(he)Satan(a)HOTmail.com if I were you! ;-) I think he thinks he's serious. (a reminder - IMHO, the Christian Coalition is the anti- Christ in disguise) Stan

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Stan is Nobody's Friend?
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:45:17 EDT From: StanSquncr <StanSquncr(a)aol.com> To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Subject: Nobody's Friend In a message dated 4/7/98 2:26:38 PM Central Daylight Time, nobody(a)REPLAY.COM writes: << From: tsatan(a)hotmail.com >> I would read that as - T(he)Satan(a)HOTmail.com if I were you! ;-) I think he thinks he's serious. (a reminder - IMHO, the Christian Coalition is the anti- Christ in disguise) Stan Stan, somebody needs to pry your cocksucking lips off of Pat robertson's cock long enough to beat your stupid fucking ass down with a clue-by-four. stop swallowing all that mainstream media jizz, you fucking cumbucket, and quit the dope too. your daddy

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Re:Nobody
by StanSquncr 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

In a message dated 4/7/98 4:19:39 PM Central Daylight Time, nobody writes: << Stan, somebody needs to pry your cocksucking lips off of Pat robertson's cock long enough to beat your stupid fucking ass down with a clue-by-four. stop swallowing all that mainstream media jizz, you fucking cumbucket, and quit the dope too. >> I see you've come out of your closet, Nobody! Stan

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Re: Canada's Crypto Policy
by James Glave 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Also see my Wired News piece on this meeting: http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/11397.html Crypto Canucks: Hands Off Our Keys! 5:03 am PST 2 Apr 98 - The captains of Canada's cryptography industry sent a message to Ottawa yesterday: keep clear of domestic crypto controls, and lighten up on the export policies. Was anyone listening? At 03:22 PM 4/7/98 -0400, John Young wrote: >Thanks to mctaylor and Carrie Bendzsa at Entrust we offer >her transcription of the recent Entrust roundtable on Canada's >Cryptography Policy: > > http://jya.com/CA-crypto.htm (113K) > >Good, vigorous discussion of how US export policy inhibits >Canada's crypto policy and commerce. And what might be >done to get the CA gov to defy the supercop without getting >shackled like US miscreants. James Glave : Senior Technology Writer : Wired News http://www.wirednews.com : 415.276.8430

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hi
by Sumlatino 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

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Cost of Ak manufacture
by ichudov＠algebra.com 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

With the current prices on AK clones being around $400, I expect that their domestic manufacture will become profitable. In fact, as someone else has noted, any toy maker would be able to produce all parts of the AKs, with the possible exception of barrels. Judging by their construction, there is not a lot of costs and they should be a lot cheaper than AR-15s (against which I have almost nothing). So, the question is, it is realistic to expect that AK s will be manufactured here? Will the control freaks be able to stop it? - Igor.

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cmea
by Mixmaster 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

A few weeks ago someone referenced a program that realtime decrypted PCS crypto however I managed to loose it and the archives seem to be not available. Could someone repost the name of the program or even better a link to it... thanks

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Re: Cost of Ak manufacture
by alt1＠snowhill.com 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

At 11:20 PM 4/7/98 -0500, Igor Chudov @ home wrote: >Judging by their construction, there is not a lot of costs and they >should be a lot cheaper than AR-15s (against which I have almost nothing). > >So, the question is, it is realistic to expect that AK s will be >manufactured here? Will the control freaks be able to stop it? Two major problems. There is VERY little domestic manufacture of 7.62x39 ammo, and most of what is already out there is not reloadable. Even if AK clones became widespread, all the feds would have to do would be to ban the import of the ammo. Secondly, while it would certainly be possible for a manufacturing facility to construct an AK from raw materials, if "push comes to shove," it would be much faster and cheaper for people to "reconstruct" the Sten parts they have laying around. This has the added advantage that ammo is readily available for those. While 7.62x39 might become hard to find, the common US military and NATO calibers (7.62NATO, 5.56, and 9mm) will be widely available.

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RE: [PGP-USERS-4748]: Legality in Canada
by Your Yashy 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, H. M. wrote: > >I think you should perhaps read a little more maboy... > > I know I should, and I do. Never claimed to be a guru or else, did I? I > just said what I knew, ie. gave my opinion (even if I am a newbie), which is > something you obviously don't like. Perhaps you didn't read (sic) that I > kept using "I think", "I believe", "I guess", etc. instead of "I STATE". Perhaps you didn't read the 411 for the PGP-Mailing-List. I don't recall it saying "Ask unrelated questions if your a newbie." IMO anyone interested in "2600" groups can find 411 all over the www. also there are alt.2600 newsgroups, as well as other places. I personally wouldn't even mind if you kept it off the list and asked if I knew what 2600 is, but trying to "teach" ppl what you "think" 2600 is.. has no place on this mailing list. > >...with any "group" nowadays, there is a FAQ avaliable for > >newbies etc (obviously like yourself). > ... others just know ever since... never were newbies, hey? You don't know how to read? > >They are not "supposedly hackers and phreakers". Aso the > >debatable issure of exact translation of a hacker, IMO it > >is anyone that has altered ANY program. > The issue of exact translation should be, perhaps, discussed on a grammar, > language, or else mailing list if it is to start a flame. I have no interest in starting a flame, you have embarrased yourself well enough. > >p.s. If it wasn't for hackers, you wouldn't have the > >technology you have. > If it wasn't for you... am I in front of a top developer or similar? Sorry, If I simply wrote the 2600 faq (which I didnt) it would have bettered society, because idiots would have an idea what it is. > I didn't notice, all I can see is a squared 14'' screen. Well, obviously you stumbled upon a keyboard as well, prematurely perhaps. > >OH what you've read on the beloved www. I'd imagine you > >read an article on a webpage full of sex ad banners as > >well. I don't feel that I am an "outlawed hero" but I feel > >I better society in various ways. > You see, you just imagine (as I "guessed, believed,..."), and that's a good > thing (even imagining with a sick mind... > sex add banners?). As for bettering society... how? trying to scare people > away so that you are THE ONE with the know-how? I'm not trying to "scare you away". (you'd know if I was "trying"). > > >As I've already said, you have alot more reading to do. > I'm sure if we ever get to meet each other, you'll teach me a lot and > perhaps lighten me... meanwhile, I'll just try to learn away from those like > you, I'll leave psycotic tales for others, if you don't mind me to. I'll help you with anything I can, off-list. In the meantime, read. > I never said or stated hackers or the like are to be prosecuted or else, > never tried to raise a moral nor > ethical argument about, I just posed a question on (personal) security. Pretending you have an idea on what 2600 is not related to security. (Although the 2600 group irnoically does). > Most of all I DID NOT try to raise a flame by annoying anyone. If you are > up to it, or if you believe you are Robin Hood (or Rob Hack for this > matter), I don't give a monkey about it, just visit your psychiatrist, or > talk to a priest/ess if you have a religion, or wait for the green people to > come fetch you up. As I've just said, I won't get involved on a flame with > you, so don't bother to answer, I won't do it at all. Perhaps if you reply off-list or try stop trying to pull your head out of toilet, I'll leave you alone. > > I apologize to others on this list for this, but I felt I had to answer once as all newbies do. > (no more, promised). promise? > > > H. Menezo Ganau > homega(a)vlc.servicom.es > homega(a)latinmail.com > > > DH/DSS (1024/1024) > Key ID: 0x614DB9FA > > RSA (2048) > Key ID: 0x160B1B5B > - -shareware email coutesy of yashy- -send $10 cdn funds if you read it- email@reply irc@ircnet #italy icq@4497826 pgpID@ 0xD0186E85 pubring(a)www.chat.carleton.ca/~nmarion home@ottawa canada sleep@7am - - - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNStBoT8rI+jQGG6FAQERswP9E+9LM1fzlMQWAMyUiDjq+n//37jEmTfl VUR5LhdPSwCf1zF7sBe+WVHvHSYWVJ5/0K/mu/j7htmb2rL6PqwcP8OyjLxQo6/M 4N/7WAI7vtsojLP5ubqoPHnx5eBgPRPF7vIRDuhw7Br0KflqFaSPeL8H2rPBWXNl YR5H1r5OAjg= =d5s8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Thanks for the mammaries...
by CJ Parker 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

First, I would like to express my appreciation for the fact that every single subscriber to the cypherpunks distributed mailing lists has chosen to participate in the opening salvo (on April 19, 1998, 9:02 a.m.) of the Digital Revolution. Unfortunately, I ratted you all out earlier today. I'm sorry, but the Men In Really Dirty White threatened to tell my mom, if I didn't confess. Although mom has been dead for quite some time, my knee-jerk programming kicked in (pardon the pun). The good news is that I exposed Bill Gates as the RingLeader of the highly illegal conspiracy of which you are all a part, so at least you should have some deep-pockets on your side when THEY (TM) kick in your door. I will be entering the Witless Projection Pogrom shortly, so I suppose that there is no harm in revealing that my original persona on the cypherpunks list, the one you have all known me by for quite some time, is Blanc Weber. I'm sorry I've been deceiving you all with my various Toto and TruthMonger personas, but during my volunteer work at the Handle Institute, I was infected with Tourette Syndrome from a dirty needle (while *sewing*, you cynical little cocksuckers!). I am also the one who has been sending the ASCII-art spams to the list. Dimitri was completely innocent, and you all should feel terrible about the way you treated him. I know that all of the list subscribers will carry on with the TRIN plan on April 19th because they are truly committed to the violent overthrow of all governments, and not just because I made it with all of you under the guise of my Lynne Harrison persona. (Personal note to Human Gus-Peter: No, I'm not wearing any panties...) I feel particularly bad about ratting out our Philosopher King, Tim C. May, since he was such a great help to me under his Dale Thorn and John Young personas. I also ratted out Adam Back for his part in the murder of Princess Diana, but it backfired when he was secretly Knighted hours later, by the Queen Mother (No! not John Gilmore, you fucking idiots!) Anyway, before signing off, I would like to inform you that my real opinion of all of you who responded to my Toto and TruthMonger posts is about the same as the opinion of Billy Crystal (when he was on 'Soap') in regard to all of the fucking idiots who finally connected to the ClueServer, slapped themselves on the forehead, and said, "What am I doing? I'm arguing with a *dummy*!" It's been real... Love & XXXX's, Blanc Weber "I'm not an asshole, but I play one in real life." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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